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Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

Russell Jaslow said:
This whine is used over and over and over again. But it doesn't matter. As NUProf always jokes, the NCAA will give us a tiny bit of money and us D3 folks better be grateful for it.

But on a serious note, the NCAA establishes a budget. Whether you like the amount or not. And they expect each sport to stay within that budget. Now having said that, they will at times be flexible. And they have flown three teams (or more) during the course of a tournament. We'll see. IMO, it wouldn't surprise me if they put the championship weekend out west no matter how many flights it takes.
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I know I know. I guess it should have said exaggeration and sarcasm alert....
 
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GB Puck Fan said:
For Stevens Point you fly to Central Wisconsin Airport is in Mosinee. That’s about 29 miles to KB Willett

And it’s where the jet picked up UWSP before stopping in GB to get SNC on the way to Lewiston ME, if I remember correctly.

And BILP - CWA has commercial service to MSP, ORD and DTW
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So you're telling me that instead of driving 100ish miles to the Green Bay airport, UWSP drove 30 miles and then flew 90 miles?
 
BetterInLakePlacid said:
And you're telling me this basic fact why?
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You said “unless you take a private jet you can’t fly to Stevens Point.”

I suppose, technically , that’s true. But I was pointing out that CWA is the airport that serves SP area.

And while there is the Stevens Point Muni Airport, a 20 minute drive to the airport (CWA) is certainly reasonable, and closer than the airport in many larger areas. And a flight to Green Bay, Madison or Milwaukee isn’t necessary.

Just some helpful geography for those thinking that for Point hosting they would have to fly to GRB
 
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Also for context, Norwich and Plattsburgh on the women's hockey side chartered a flight out of Burlington, Vt. in 2017 together. Flew out together and flew back in together. However, the women also had the consolation game so both teams played both days.

I believe Plattsburgh, Middlebury, Elmira all flew out of Albany, NY together in 2013 for the women's hockey final four in Superior, Wis. as well.
 
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Sir Nubs said:
Why would you fly into Madison when Appleton and even Green Bay are much closer? It takes 2 minutes to research these things before you post.
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I looked a map. I did not realize Appleton had a commercial airport. A thousand pardons for my ignorance, you hockey puck! :)
 
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sacole13 said:
the NCAA has money coming out it's *****, they just have to move it from one program to another. NCAA DI hoops makes more than enough money.
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Unfortunately, despite all the noise about the importance of "student athletes," and the fact that there are a lot more of them in DIII than in DI, the NCAA provides 3% of its budget for DIII championships (DIII being of course the biggest division of the three). It is what it is, and worrying about what is fair or not fair gets us nowhere. I'm sure that it would be possible to get three flights (instead of one) for the "Less than 0 degrees Celsius 4", but it will probably mean that they will really hold the line on flights for one of the spring sports.
 
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NUProf said:
Unfortunately, despite all the noise about the importance of "student athletes," and the fact that there are a lot more of them in DIII than in DI, the NCAA provides 3% of its budget for DIII championships (DIII being of course the biggest division of the three). It is what it is, and worrying about what is fair or not fair gets us nowhere. I'm sure that it would be possible to get three flights (instead of one) for the "Less than 0 degrees Celsius 4", but it will probably mean that they will really hold the line on flights for one of the spring sports.
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oh I don't honestly expect that but I can always complain :D
 
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Mass-Boston loses to Hobart. That puts Norwich in the hypothetical AQ slot and will Mass-Boston drop down below the 4th AL slot?

Edit: Yup. Adrian slides in. ALs are
UWSP
Oswego
Hobart
Adrian

Mass-Boston beats Adrian in WPct but loses the all important RPI. I don't believe CoP factors in.
 
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One week to go and we see a couple more changes based off this past week's results.

SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
CCC - Salve Regina (11)
MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
MIAC - Augsburg (10)
NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
NEHC - Norwich (3)
NESCAC - Trinity (9)
UCHC - Utica (12)

Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
Pool C - Oswego (4)
Pool C - Hobart (6)
Pool C - Adrian (7)

Now we're back to lots of different scenarios for how to deal with Adrian. Adrian can play St. Norbert, Oswego, Hobart and Geneseo all without flying.

I think the fairest scenario I could come up with gives us this bracket. (It becomes an easier pill to swallow if Adrian beats St. Norbert in the NCHA final and Oswego beats Geneseo)

First Round:

Augsburg at St. Norbert
Plymouth State at Norwich
Utica at Hobart
Salve Regina at Trinity

Quarterfinals:

SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
Adrian at Oswego
Norwich/Plymouth vs. Hobart/Utica
Salve Regina/Trinity at Geneseo
 
PrezdeJohnson09 said:
One week to go and we see a couple more changes based off this past week's results.

SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
CCC - Salve Regina (11)
MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
MIAC - Augsburg (10)
NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
NEHC - Norwich (3)
NESCAC - Trinity (9)
UCHC - Utica (12)

Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
Pool C - Oswego (4)
Pool C - Hobart (6)
Pool C - Adrian (7)

Now we're back to lots of different scenarios for how to deal with Adrian. Adrian can play St. Norbert, Oswego, Hobart and Geneseo all without flying.

I think the fairest scenario I could come up with gives us this bracket. (It becomes an easier pill to swallow if Adrian beats St. Norbert in the NCHA final and Oswego beats Geneseo)

First Round:

Augsburg at St. Norbert
Plymouth State at Norwich
Utica at Hobart
Salve Regina at Trinity

Quarterfinals:

SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
Adrian at Oswego
Norwich/Plymouth vs. Hobart/Utica
Salve Regina/Trinity at Geneseo
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Just thought, but without the win....Adrian will drop back down below UMB. Their win% would drop to .707 and RPI would take a hit. UMB should pretty much remain steady.
 
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Birdwatcher said:
Just thought, but without the win....Adrian will drop back down below UMB. Their win% would drop to .707 and RPI would take a hit. UMB should pretty much remain steady.
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Correct, I think Adrian has to win to get in. A loss and I could see UMass Boston jumping back up into the last Pool C slot. If that's the case and the split is 9-3, it's a very easy bracket with the top 4 seeds all earning byes and we play down to 3 east teams, 1 west team.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Correct, I think Adrian has to win to get in. A loss and I could see UMass Boston jumping back up into the last Pool C slot. If that's the case and the split in 9-3, it's a very easy bracket with the top 4 seeds all earning byes and we play down to 3 east teams, 1 west team.
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That is how I see it as well...
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
One week to go and we see a couple more changes based off this past week's results.

SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
CCC - Salve Regina (11)
MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
MIAC - Augsburg (10)
NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
NEHC - Norwich (3)
NESCAC - Trinity (9)
UCHC - Utica (12)

Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
Pool C - Oswego (4)
Pool C - Hobart (6)
Pool C - Adrian (7)

Now we're back to lots of different scenarios for how to deal with Adrian. Adrian can play St. Norbert, Oswego, Hobart and Geneseo all without flying.

I think the fairest scenario I could come up with gives us this bracket. (It becomes an easier pill to swallow if Adrian beats St. Norbert in the NCHA final and Oswego beats Geneseo)

First Round:

Augsburg at St. Norbert
Plymouth State at Norwich
Utica at Hobart
Salve Regina at Trinity

Quarterfinals:

SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
Adrian at Oswego
Norwich/Plymouth vs. Hobart/Utica
Salve Regina/Trinity at Geneseo
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Please figure-out how to get Utica as far away from The Cooler as possible. Even my Siberian husky would prefer to fly somewhere else.
 
PrezdeJohnson09 said:
One week to go and we see a couple more changes based off this past week's results.

SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
CCC - Salve Regina (11)
MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
MIAC - Augsburg (10)
NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
NEHC - Norwich (3)
NESCAC - Trinity (9)
UCHC - Utica (12)

Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
Pool C - Oswego (4)
Pool C - Hobart (6)
Pool C - Adrian (7)

Now we're back to lots of different scenarios for how to deal with Adrian. Adrian can play St. Norbert, Oswego, Hobart and Geneseo all without flying.

I think the fairest scenario I could come up with gives us this bracket. (It becomes an easier pill to swallow if Adrian beats St. Norbert in the NCHA final and Oswego beats Geneseo)

First Round:

Augsburg at St. Norbert
Plymouth State at Norwich
Utica at Hobart
Salve Regina at Trinity

Quarterfinals:

SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
Adrian at Oswego
Norwich/Plymouth vs. Hobart/Utica
Salve Regina/Trinity at Geneseo
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Geez where is Sir Nubs?
 
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What is wrong with this set up given the current PWR?

Adrian/Hobart --> Genny,
Augs/SNC --> UWSP,
Plym/Trin --> Oswego
Utica/Slave --> NU

We would have 6 vs. 7 going to 2, 9 vs. 5 going to 1, 12/8 going to 4. and 11/10 going to 3.

It's not perfect but the are no flights required, the top 4 seeds get byes. Just a thought.
 
NUProf said:
What is wrong with this set up given the current PWR?

Adrian/Hobart --> Genny,
Augs/SNC --> UWSP,
Plym/Trin --> Oswego
Utica/Slave --> NU

We would have 6 vs. 7 going to 2, 9 vs. 5 going to 1, 12/8 going to 4. and 11/10 going to 3.

It's not perfect but the are no flights required, the top 4 seeds get byes. Just a thought.
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Not a bad choice either. But 3 and 4 kind of make out with the lower seeds there while higher seeds have to face “tougher” opponents.
 
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