Boston University Offseason Thread 2: Moving Forward by Booting Forwards

[SteveF]

Re: Boston University Offseason Thread 2: Moving Forward by Booting Forwards

DS had offense, but not anywhere near as good there as DW. DW is a the same height as DS and is heavier at same age.

 

[Slasher7]

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Thats interesting. When Sweeney played you had to be big and strong and able to clutch, grab and use your stick. Now you cant even get in front of a guy going back on a dump in. You have to be smart and you have to be able to skate.

FYI, Sweeney retired 6 years ago.

The only thing objective I can say about DW is this.

No matter what team he played on, at every level he was always one of their top players, if not their top player

hs, prep school, us natl team, wjc, and now at BU. All teams that won championships and played agains the worlds best. He will be just fine.

Good Lord. Just because he's a top player at BU means he'll be the top player on any team he plays on? Seriously? I'm not doubting the kid is a winner because he is (and its not a BC/BU thing because I wish he were an Eagle), but let's not get crazy here.

He won't be a regular NHL defenseman. He's too small. This is the Flutie argument all over again.

 

[Slasher7]

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This is so flawed it's not even funny. Not every guy that has a great pedigree from youth throughout college automatically goes on to having a good pro career.

Dave Emma agrees with you. Candyvan's argument has so many holes in it that its scary.

 

[mookie1995]

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Well if warofsky shows up at Fenway wearing a baseball mitt, I AM OFF the bandwagon!!

 

[Hokydad]

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Dave Emma agrees with you. Candyvan's argument has so many holes in it that its scary.

Don't even go down the Dave Emma trail. That one is still absurd and had more to do with politics than play

 

[Federal League]

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He won't be a regular NHL defenseman. He's too small. This is the Flutie argument all over again.

As flawed as hokydad's "he'll be a successful NHL defenseman because he's been successful at every other level" argument is, your above logic is just as flawed. You and hokydad are at the two opposite ends of the stupid scale right now. Just like being successful at other levels doesn't guarantee he will make it, being small doesn't guarantee he won't.

 

[Hokydad]

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I agree

Never said I gaurantee he will make it. Just feel he will

They call me the horse whisperer of hockey

just like I knew Decosta was special last fall before he played a single Hockey East game

 

[Federal League]

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just like I knew Decosta was special last fall before he played a single Hockey East game

And yet you still can't spell his name right.

They call me the horse whisperer of hockey

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[slurpees]

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[Nick Papagiorgio]

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They call me the horse whisperer of hockey

I think they call you a horse's azz. You must not be able to understand them because of that sound system you have in your candyvan trying to impress the boys.

Get your head out of the gutter.

 

[Slasher7]

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Don't even go down the Dave Emma trail. That one is still absurd and had more to do with politics than play

Sure, politics. Emma was the best NCAA player in the country and washed out in the NHL and it only had to do with politics. I forgot you know everything. I guess all you need to do is dominate Marshfield Youth Hockey to guarantee a long career in professional hockey. Got it.

 

[Slasher7]

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As flawed as hokydad's "he'll be a successful NHL defenseman because he's been successful at every other level" argument is, your above logic is just as flawed. You and hokydad are at the two opposite ends of the stupid scale right now. Just like being successful at other levels doesn't guarantee he will make it, being small doesn't guarantee he won't.

Small doesn't guarantee he won't, but on defense, it's a huge hinderance. I think if he made the switch to wing, he could do quite well considering how offensively gifted he is. I think he'll be a disaster playing in the NHL on defense for a team like the Bruins.

82 games playing on the blue line against 6'4" forwards instead of 40 games playing against future accountants is where Warsofsky will hit the wall, regardless of what Candyvan seems to think.

 

[Hokydad]

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Small doesn't guarantee he won't, but on defense, it's a huge hinderance. I think if he made the switch to wing, he could do quite well considering how offensively gifted he is. I think he'll be a disaster playing in the NHL on defense for a team like the Bruins.

82 games playing on the blue line against 6'4" forwards instead of 40 games playing against future accountants is where Warsofsky will hit the wall, regardless of what Candyvan seems to think.

Seeing that the vast majority of teams have zero F's at 6'4" and average 6'0", your typical inflating is typical

Put it this way, Red Wings have more 5'9" or 5'10" D than they do 6'4" F's(zero)

 

[Slasher7]

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Seeing that the vast majority of teams have zero F's at 6'4" and average 6'0", your typical inflating is typical

Put it this way, Red Wings have more 5'9" or 5'10" D than they do 6'4" F's(zero)

Let's just cut to the chase. Who do you think will introduce Warsofsky at his Hall of Fame speech in 20 years? I assume he'll dominate the NHL the way he dominated teams like the Southcoast Seahawks and Taunton Brewins back in the South Shore Conference. Maybe they can just induct him now and let us all avoid the hassle of actually having to play...

ps- Thats great about the Red Wings but DW is 5'7", not 5"10".

 

[Slasher7]

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Don't even go down the Dave Emma trail. That one is still absurd and had more to do with politics than play

Here's a link to a bunch of high NHL draft picks from college who washed out. I didnt' realize how many kids didnt' make it to show because of "politics"...

http://insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/nhldraft_bestworst.htm

 

[jcarter7669]

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Seeing that the vast majority of teams have zero F's at 6'4" and average 6'0", your typical inflating is typical

Is it really typical? Or just not surprising? Maybe its normal? It sure isn't out of the ordinary. I guess it's just par for the course.


Oh and feel free to use those at any point in the future where you are at a loss for words.

 

[Hokydad]

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Let's just cut to the chase. Who do you think will introduce Warsofsky at his Hall of Fame speech in 20 years? I assume he'll dominate the NHL the way he dominated teams like the Southcoast Seahawks and Taunton Brewins back in the South Shore Conference. Maybe they can just induct him now and let us all avoid the hassle of actually having to play...

ps- Thats great about the Red Wings but DW is 5'7", not 5"10".

He is listed by all counts at 5'9" 180

Now he is as small as Giunta?

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Seeing that the vast majority of teams have zero F's at 6'4" and average 6'0", your typical inflating is typical

Put it this way, Red Wings have more 5'9" or 5'10" D than they do 6'4" F's(zero)

Your redundancy is redundant.

I think we can all agree that at his height he is going against the odds and that he has been going against the odds for some time. BUT, those odds were not dramatic jumps from any level to the next from his current journey. The jump is going to be huge in the NHL and the odds increase dramatically against him. Maybe he does it, maybe he doesn't. I wouldn't count on it but I wouldn't bet the house on him failing either.

The more interesting question is why there are so few defensemen at the next level. You could make a case for Warsofsky's projected success even at the next level because players at his size are simply persuaded far earlier to move up to forward. So even at this point in his career, there are not many Dmen his size. So perhaps success rate of making the jump to the NHL is higher than we think despite (and because) having so few.

The 5'8" frame (or did he grow? come on candyvan we're dying to know if your best buddy DW grew or not) even getting up to 190-200 lbs is going to take a beating going back and retrieving pucks behind his own goal line.

ps - (insert BC gambling joke about odds here for my good friend rover).

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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He is listed by all counts at 5'9" 180

Now he is as small as Giunta?

Surely, you can confirm it since you are good friends with him rather than rely on a roster that might have (or might not have) INFLATED his height.

Who is Giunta? Is he related to the Mass hockey dad (hokydad?) that got 6-10 years for killing his kid's hockey coach?

 

[Slasher7]

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He is listed by all counts at 5'9" 180

Now he is as small as Giunta?

Gionta is a forward (which is why Ive been saying Warsofsky has a better shot of succeeding if he moved up front).