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Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is well!

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Nice Bob Hohler hatchet job in the Globe this morning. Never mind the headline for the story isn't even true.
 
Nice Bob Hohler hatchet job in the Globe this morning. Never mind the headline for the story isn't even true.

The only hatchet job is him being the scapegoat and being hung out alone

Real question should be how many left, who had pro options because they knew it would get out, where a Roberto prob didn't have any contract offers. Does that make him any more guilty? I don't think so and pretty lame for the school to keep acting like it's only an issue if you are a current student
BS move on their part and unfair to a teammate and player

I know they have limits what they can say but either say it all or shut up
 
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They seem to have a nice stock picture of Roberto pretending to eat out of the Piszpot.

Has no one noticed that this buffoon is out there wearing a GoPro on his head while celebrating? As far as I'm concerned this is worse than gambling.
 
They seem to have a nice stock picture of Roberto pretending to eat out of the Piszpot.

Has no one noticed that this buffoon is out there wearing a GoPro on his head while celebrating? As far as I'm concerned this is worse than gambling.

BU uses GoPros for some shots on their documentary thing, I'm unsure if that's what it was, or if it was his own for the family video collection.
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Rover, you need to update your gambling jokes now!

:confused: When was I on Westfield State's case for gambling? :D

However, fear not. Unless the BU athletic program is running its own bookmaking operation at the behest of the Gambinos like BC was, I think there's a big difference between incidents from what we know now....:eek:
 
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Hoky,
Is it even BU's place to comment now on "the other two" since they are no longer enrolled in school and playing elsewhere?
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Nice Bob Hohler hatchet job in the Globe this morning. Never mind the headline for the story isn't even true.

That's what they pay Hohler the medium bucks for. Keep him on the down low until something arises and he takes no prisoners (i.e. 2011 Red Sox post-mortem on Francona).
 
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Hohler is absolutely brutally bad. He is on the level of a Freep writer.

Although I didn't find anything wrong with today's article, very minimal stuff in it (and contributed by some BU folks' idol Fluto)
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Finally catching up on all of this…. what a dumbass move by the player(s?) involved. At least when I competed, it was made pretty clear to the student athletes that gambling was a serious no-no and would be met with serious consequences. I'd assume the same info was given to them. We can debate the wisdom of the NCAA gambling rules, and bookies vs fantasy sports etc. But for now those are the rules and the athletes know it. You have to be either too dumb, think you are above the law, or just not care to do it.

That being said, while it is a serious rules violation, I don't see how it seriously hurts BU and / or college hockey in general (unless there are more angles to the story yet to come out).

Chiming in as a neutral observer. This rules violation, just a few years after the "sex scandal" is something that other schools will recruit against. The mantra will be lack of institutional control. I'm sure that BU folks thought they were over this after Parker retired, but the fact that the sort of gambling implied in the CHN article was going on, will lead some believe that Quinn is not overseeing things as he should. Whether that is right or wrong, only Quinn can refute it. And not with words, but actions.
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Hohler is absolutely brutally bad. He is on the level of a Freep writer.

Although I didn't find anything wrong with today's article, very minimal stuff in it (and contributed by some BU folks' idol Fluto)

Bringing up the sexual assault allegations from 4 years ago (wrongly stated as 3 years in the Globe) is a low blow since none of the players, coaching staff (except the volunteer goaltending coach), nor AD were here during that time. Totally unrelated to the story.
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Chiming in as a neutral observer. This rules violation, just a few years after the "sex scandal" is something that other schools will recruit against. The mantra will be lack of institutional control. I'm sure that BU folks thought they were over this after Parker retired, but the fact that the sort of gambling implied in the CHN article was going on, will lead some believe that Quinn is not overseeing things as he should. Whether that is right or wrong, only Quinn can refute it. And not with words, but actions.

I disagree completely. The story that broke yesterday was not new at all. While it came to light to the public, the hockey world, coaches and teammates of Roberto have known the reasons behind his suspension, since at least September. My point is BU has some very high level players who have committed for next year and I'm sure they would have be hesitant on signing their letters of intent recently if it bothered them that much.
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Hohler is absolutely brutally bad. He is on the level of a Freep writer.

Although I didn't find anything wrong with today's article, very minimal stuff in it (and contributed by some BU folks' idol Fluto)

Bringing up the sexual assault allegations from 4 years ago (wrongly stated as 3 years in the Globe) is a low blow since none of the players, coaching staff (except the volunteer goaltending coach), nor AD were here during that time. Totally unrelated to the story.

Tater - after reading your post I was almost afraid to read it. I did, and I thought it was a thrown-together article where all he did was repeat everything that was in the CHN article. Not surprised he brought up the issues from 4 years ago or that he got the timeline wrong. But it was not unexpected, IMO. I know they're not issues aren't related but it's always going to be part of any story with this program. I knew that when it happened.
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Chiming in as a neutral observer. This rules violation, just a few years after the "sex scandal" is something that other schools will recruit against. The mantra will be lack of institutional control. I'm sure that BU folks thought they were over this after Parker retired, but the fact that the sort of gambling implied in the CHN article was going on, will lead some believe that Quinn is not overseeing things as he should. Whether that is right or wrong, only Quinn can refute it. And not with words, but actions.

I expect some will do this, but I doubt it will have a real impact. Additionally who knows where this story will go over the coming months with the "players from other teams" as CHN mentions, also being among the 700 clients, and not yet being discovered by their own schools.
 
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Bringing up the sexual assault allegations from 4 years ago (wrongly stated as 3 years in the Globe) is a low blow since none of the players, coaching staff (except the volunteer goaltending coach), nor AD were here during that time. Totally unrelated to the story.

I think it's somewhere in the middle. Not 100% relevant but not irrelevant either. Fair game. It's a somewhat recent scandal being inserted into a story about a newer "scandal" involving the same program. Seems to me he wants the reader to connect some dots and question whether the program has some issues without actually putting it out there himself (can you imagine the outcry about journalistic integrity from the bevy of "experts" on journalism in this very thread?).
 
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Still curious about whether or not BU technically used an ineligible player(s) if this gambling has been confirmed as during last season. The NCAA loves going back when they catch you and taking away wins. Don't care about the outcome either way but the decision itself is something i'm curious about. I am certainly not lobbying for retroactive team/program punishment.
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Still curious about whether or not BU technically used an ineligible player(s) if this gambling has been confirmed as during last season. The NCAA loves going back when they catch you and taking away wins. Don't care about the outcome either way but the decision itself is something i'm curious about. I am certainly not lobbying for retroactive team/program punishment.

I don't know if ineligible is the right word? I don't know the official terminology but if a player was caught gambling, they would be suspended, as Roberto was. They weren't ineligible when it happened. They were a student in good standing (enrolled, proper grades, etc). They would be punished for doing something wrong moving forward. I think. I don't know. Just my thoughts.....
 
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Still curious about whether or not BU technically used an ineligible player(s) if this gambling has been confirmed as during last season. The NCAA loves going back when they catch you and taking away wins. Don't care about the outcome either way but the decision itself is something i'm curious about. I am certainly not lobbying for retroactive team/program punishment.

I don't think so. I see the one year suspension as a purely punitive measure for someone who broke a rule rather than someone who is actively playing ineligible by taking extra benefits, not having proper credits/grades, etc.. I think that "suspension" and "ineligibility" are two different concepts.
 
I don't know if ineligible is the right word? I don't know the official terminology but if a player was caught gambling, they would be suspended, as Roberto was. They weren't ineligible when it happened. They were a student in good standing (enrolled, proper grades, etc). They would be punished for doing something wrong moving forward. I think. I don't know. Just my thoughts.....


Right but if you look at say a reggie bush. He was eligible but then revelations of his family getting money cane up. Not only was he announced as ineligible but i THOUGHT he was retroactively deemed ineligible for games he played in/USC had to forfeit wins for using ineligible player. I have no idea if i have all the details right, just looking for clarification.
 
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