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Boston University 2012 Offseason
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Re: Boston University 2012 Offseason
Hey Pirate:
Given your choice of lyrics, think we could get Westerberg to write a song to describe the last six days?
Hey Pirate:
Given your choice of lyrics, think we could get Westerberg to write a song to describe the last six days?
BeloBrasil
Tristeza nao tem fim felicidade sim
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Interestingly (or not) Don Knotts only appeared in but one episode of Mayberry RFD in 1968. Thereafter it was an eleven year drought before ole Don returned to television on a regular basis as Ralph Furley, Jack Tripper's apartment manager on what has to be the worst situation comedy ever to be given an eight year run - Three's Company!
Interestingly (or not) Don Knotts only appeared in but one episode of Mayberry RFD in 1968. Thereafter it was an eleven year drought before ole Don returned to television on a regular basis as Ralph Furley, Jack Tripper's apartment manager on what has to be the worst situation comedy ever to be given an eight year run - Three's Company!
Harry Cleverly
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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that confirms it right there!! you sir, ARE an idiot!!
that confirms it right there!! you sir, ARE an idiot!!
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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"often"
this was one of the things i wondered about after the first outbreak. who was rooming with trivino? did they encourage him? wth were they thinking?!?
"often"
this was one of the things i wondered about after the first outbreak. who was rooming with trivino? did they encourage him? wth were they thinking?!?
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Obviously you've never been here, then: http://www.thebeaglebrookline.com/
Obviously you've never been here, then: http://www.thebeaglebrookline.com/
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Sorry to depart from the topic of this thread, but how does everyone think the team will do this year? I personally expect to see a more cohesive team (even though we are bringing in 9 new players). I hope to see more team play and a little more variety in the plays we run. Last year it seemed like every play we ran was slapshot from the blue line and crash the net. I'd love to see our passing game and forecheck improve. With the player losses over the last few years I think we've finally stripped away the players who didn't truly want to be there and with all that's happened, I imagine the freshman will be introduced to a strict and focused environment. If the freshmen are kept 100% focused and the rest of the team continues to improve, I think they should at least be a bubble team for the tournament. All I really want is our Bean Pot trophy back. Megan really has his work cut out as captain. I hope the responsibility doesn't affect his on ice performance.
Sorry to depart from the topic of this thread, but how does everyone think the team will do this year? I personally expect to see a more cohesive team (even though we are bringing in 9 new players). I hope to see more team play and a little more variety in the plays we run. Last year it seemed like every play we ran was slapshot from the blue line and crash the net. I'd love to see our passing game and forecheck improve. With the player losses over the last few years I think we've finally stripped away the players who didn't truly want to be there and with all that's happened, I imagine the freshman will be introduced to a strict and focused environment. If the freshmen are kept 100% focused and the rest of the team continues to improve, I think they should at least be a bubble team for the tournament. All I really want is our Bean Pot trophy back. Megan really has his work cut out as captain. I hope the responsibility doesn't affect his on ice performance.
Thanks Cliff, how's your mom doing?
Don Knotts played Barney Fife from 1960-1968, winning 5 Emmy Awards...that was the original Andy Griffith Show which spun off RFD.
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Here's a quote from the article: "However, Cohen criticized the idea that Parker, who is entering his 40th year as the Terriers’ bench boss, does not have control of the team. He said the people calling for Parker to step down 'don’t know the first thing about hockey.'"
I, personally, feel that this is not the point. Why a lot of people are "calling for Jack Parker to step down" isn't as much what's going on on the ice, as it is what's happening off the ice. I think a lot of people would agree that Parker knows his x's and o's.
Cohen goes on to say there was a party at Agganis after they returned from Washington, DC, and that Parker handled it in-house. I can't imagine this goes over too well with the Task Force or Robert Brown.
Here's a quote from the article: "However, Cohen criticized the idea that Parker, who is entering his 40th year as the Terriers’ bench boss, does not have control of the team. He said the people calling for Parker to step down 'don’t know the first thing about hockey.'"
I, personally, feel that this is not the point. Why a lot of people are "calling for Jack Parker to step down" isn't as much what's going on on the ice, as it is what's happening off the ice. I think a lot of people would agree that Parker knows his x's and o's.
Cohen goes on to say there was a party at Agganis after they returned from Washington, DC, and that Parker handled it in-house. I can't imagine this goes over too well with the Task Force or Robert Brown.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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Cheating at Harvard among star athletes!!! Kudos to the globe for breaking that story!
Cheating at Harvard among star athletes!!! Kudos to the globe for breaking that story!
claver2010
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He suspended the seniors. He showed them who was the boss.
He suspended the seniors. He showed them who was the boss.
Split-N
All Hail
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Ummm....the name of hardware is the Beanpot (not Bean Pot). Go show shame.
Ummm....the name of hardware is the Beanpot (not Bean Pot). Go show shame.
ericredaxe
Veteran
I don't know.... I'm trying to think about how many coaches would report an unauthorized drinking party to the department vs getting the team together making them run suicides til everyone was puking then calling it good.
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Well, since there is so much grief that the average age on that team was 29.5 +/-, I doubt there was a huge underage drinking concern.
Appears nobody was hurt, no damage was done that we know of...so a group of > 21 yo guys that just pulled off one of the greatest seasons in school history and one of the greatest comebacks in NCAA history and is bringing significant attention (and likely contributions too) to the school had some beers at the home rink to celebrate.
Not a good decision, but as long as there was no damage or other issues, I would suspect most coaches would handle it the same way.
However, this is where the EAD title gets complicated...I would also expect the coach in question to at least tell the AD after the fact, let him/her know they had meted out some justice and make sure he got at least a "oh, ok...next time we win the NC in OT could you ask them to party somewhere else" in response.
Whether Parker felt he should or had to tell anybody else is a question complicated by the titles. Which just happens to be one of the solutions put into effect.
Well, since there is so much grief that the average age on that team was 29.5 +/-, I doubt there was a huge underage drinking concern.
Appears nobody was hurt, no damage was done that we know of...so a group of > 21 yo guys that just pulled off one of the greatest seasons in school history and one of the greatest comebacks in NCAA history and is bringing significant attention (and likely contributions too) to the school had some beers at the home rink to celebrate.
Not a good decision, but as long as there was no damage or other issues, I would suspect most coaches would handle it the same way.
However, this is where the EAD title gets complicated...I would also expect the coach in question to at least tell the AD after the fact, let him/her know they had meted out some justice and make sure he got at least a "oh, ok...next time we win the NC in OT could you ask them to party somewhere else" in response.
Whether Parker felt he should or had to tell anybody else is a question complicated by the titles. Which just happens to be one of the solutions put into effect.
Terrier520
Sungo
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I'm scared, CandyVan, because I fear that you have this bookmarked somewhere, for your "private time."
I'm scared, CandyVan, because I fear that you have this bookmarked somewhere, for your "private time."
Wicked Slappaahs
I miss Tie Domi
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On its own, I would agree with this assessment. But unfortunately for Parker, that event (which the actual A.D. apparently had no knowledge of, and is alleged that Parker lied about during the probe), is now being discussed inside the larger context of the overall behavior of the team, including the sexual assaults. The appearance of a lack of institutional control is what Parker is fighting.
On its own, I would agree with this assessment. But unfortunately for Parker, that event (which the actual A.D. apparently had no knowledge of, and is alleged that Parker lied about during the probe), is now being discussed inside the larger context of the overall behavior of the team, including the sexual assaults. The appearance of a lack of institutional control is what Parker is fighting.
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brassbonanza
Super Serial
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But I don't see this as a significant example of a coach who has lost control of his team. The season is over, they have immense reason to celebrate, and so they did. Was it a poor choice by them? Sure. But a large number of them were of legal drinking age, they drank and partied with them and their friends. This was not a large party of 75-100 from what I previously heard of it. If this same party had occurred at some random house off campus, I doubt anything would've been made of it. College kids drank a lot and had sex, oh no. If there were girls who were sexually assaulted or forced to have sex there, that's another ballgame, but there's no evidence that that happened. This is a 6 AM sprint offense, not a legal offense.
It is, however, quite concerning to me Parker's seemingly deceptive answers to the task force about what he knew and how he responded. I would hope Brown did have a discussion with Parker about what he knew and if so, why he was deceptive/lied to the task force. Colby Cohen was right, the guy knows everything that happens, so there's no way he knew nothing.
But I don't see this as a significant example of a coach who has lost control of his team. The season is over, they have immense reason to celebrate, and so they did. Was it a poor choice by them? Sure. But a large number of them were of legal drinking age, they drank and partied with them and their friends. This was not a large party of 75-100 from what I previously heard of it. If this same party had occurred at some random house off campus, I doubt anything would've been made of it. College kids drank a lot and had sex, oh no. If there were girls who were sexually assaulted or forced to have sex there, that's another ballgame, but there's no evidence that that happened. This is a 6 AM sprint offense, not a legal offense.
It is, however, quite concerning to me Parker's seemingly deceptive answers to the task force about what he knew and how he responded. I would hope Brown did have a discussion with Parker about what he knew and if so, why he was deceptive/lied to the task force. Colby Cohen was right, the guy knows everything that happens, so there's no way he knew nothing.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
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A few quick things here:
I find the accusations of media sensationalism against the Globe rather amusing. Although given the praise that many here heap on the jokers at the Freep, maybe that shouldn't be surprising. Anyway...
I see no indication that this was anything more than a miraculous snatch and grab of some tough to find info (no idea how this REAL, AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST did it but she went digging and came up with some diamonds and she should be given due credit for that) from the subcommittee reports and then this info was sifted through and used to form a follow-up article one day after the larger Task Force findings were published.
Fact: mulitiple people were interviewed separately ("several hockey players, students, and an athletics staffer consistently described the debauched victory party") by this subcommittee and came up with very consistent stories here ("many of the allegations were corroborated by multiple people with direct knowledge of the events"). Now, am I to believe, as I've read here, that there is some group of people on campus with perhaps an anti-hockey axe to grind that conspired to make this story up out of thin air right down to the intimate details, go to this subcommittee, and report this false story with the hopes of destroying the BU hockey program? Is that the theory here? Maybe it was some BC fans!?!?!?! Maybe some feminazi group on BU's campus? Maybe it was some feminazi BC fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lastly, Colby Cohen. Was he the last one to turn out the lights on this party? Or is it possible maybe stuff went on there that he didn't witness? I mean we know BU hockey players DO NOT LIE, right Ariel (Charlie Coyle still says he's staying!!!!)?? So we can rule that out. I believe you Colby. And to speak to the fact that Parker is so strict; if he has such control on this team and has so many rules and regulations, why are his guys always getting into trouble/suspended/arrested/booted/etc? Especially in a somewhat small span here of the last 5 years where the players on the roster overlap and see teammates getting into trouble at times. Would Jack Parker doling out discipline to one player not send a message to the rest that he means business when it comes to breaking rules? And yet we keep seeing problems. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense and things don't add up.
That is all, carry on with your agendas.
A few quick things here:
I find the accusations of media sensationalism against the Globe rather amusing. Although given the praise that many here heap on the jokers at the Freep, maybe that shouldn't be surprising. Anyway...
I see no indication that this was anything more than a miraculous snatch and grab of some tough to find info (no idea how this REAL, AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST did it but she went digging and came up with some diamonds and she should be given due credit for that) from the subcommittee reports and then this info was sifted through and used to form a follow-up article one day after the larger Task Force findings were published.
Fact: mulitiple people were interviewed separately ("several hockey players, students, and an athletics staffer consistently described the debauched victory party") by this subcommittee and came up with very consistent stories here ("many of the allegations were corroborated by multiple people with direct knowledge of the events"). Now, am I to believe, as I've read here, that there is some group of people on campus with perhaps an anti-hockey axe to grind that conspired to make this story up out of thin air right down to the intimate details, go to this subcommittee, and report this false story with the hopes of destroying the BU hockey program? Is that the theory here? Maybe it was some BC fans!?!?!?! Maybe some feminazi group on BU's campus? Maybe it was some feminazi BC fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lastly, Colby Cohen. Was he the last one to turn out the lights on this party? Or is it possible maybe stuff went on there that he didn't witness? I mean we know BU hockey players DO NOT LIE, right Ariel (Charlie Coyle still says he's staying!!!!)?? So we can rule that out. I believe you Colby. And to speak to the fact that Parker is so strict; if he has such control on this team and has so many rules and regulations, why are his guys always getting into trouble/suspended/arrested/booted/etc? Especially in a somewhat small span here of the last 5 years where the players on the roster overlap and see teammates getting into trouble at times. Would Jack Parker doling out discipline to one player not send a message to the rest that he means business when it comes to breaking rules? And yet we keep seeing problems. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense and things don't add up.
That is all, carry on with your agendas.
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