Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Back to my original question. You got a BU team that needs to circle the wagons quickly. Does that galvanize them into a collective unit or what? What happens to the lines and where do they go from here?

This becomes a big challenge for the coaching staff, and fortunately they've got two weeks of down time to work it out. Can they regroup the team from a huge on ice loss and emotional loss, and turn a negative into a positive. Can the team band together and play for themselves and prove they're among the best in the nation even without Trivino? Remains to be seen, but this is a huge test of the coaching staff and captain's ability to lead.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Getting drunk a lot wouldn't be a violation of a school code of conduct per se (especially if you are over 21), streaking through the quad (and getting caught) would be.

Note to BU fans... From wikipedia:

In architecture, a quadrangle (or colloquially, a quad) is a space or courtyard, usually rectangular (square or oblong) in plan, the sides of which are entirely or mainly occupied by parts of a large building. The word is probably most closely associated with college or university campus architecture

This is one of those things that college campuses typically have.

I disagree in the situation -- Trivino was extremely intoxicated, and therefore it couldn't be premeditated. His judgement was impaired, no matter what (at least after he started imbibing. He exhibited extremely poor judgement getting loaded in the first place, what with Parker's stated consequences hanging over his head.)

I'm of the opinion that if you make the decision to get drunk enough to put others at risk and do something like attempted rape, you should be responsible for the consequences of that action the same as though you had been sober.

That's just me.

 

[Bumbles]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

I'm of the opinion that if you make the decision to get drunk enough to put others at risk and do something like attempted rape, you should be responsible for the consequences of that action the same as though you had been sober.

That's just me.

+1.

I'm ready to move on from this topic, really. I was always taught that you need to take responsibility for your actions. Hopefully Trivino does that, suffers the consequences for his actions. Still plenty of time for him to turn his life around.

 

[Bumbles]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

This becomes a big challenge for the coaching staff, and fortunately they've got two weeks of down time to work it out. Can they regroup the team from a huge on ice loss and emotional loss, and turn a negative into a positive. Can the team band together and play for themselves and prove they're among the best in the nation even without Trivino? Remains to be seen, but this is a huge test of the coaching staff and captain's ability to lead.

Let's hope this incident ends up being a blessing in disguise. I'm kind of pessimistic though..., I just personally feel like it's tough to come back from emotionally/mentally tough situations like these. We shall see. With the way the last two seasons have gone and now this, if we at least make NCAAs, I'll consider it a successful season.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

This becomes a big challenge for the coaching staff, and fortunately they've got two weeks of down time to work it out. Can they regroup the team from a huge on ice loss and emotional loss, and turn a negative into a positive. Can the team band together and play for themselves and prove they're among the best in the nation even without Trivino? Remains to be seen, but this is a huge test of the coaching staff and captain's ability to lead.

No doubt. By all accounts, this is definitely not going to be an "addition by subtraction" situation. It does not sound as if he was disruptive at all to the team and was a good and liked teammate etc etc. However, this opening will give someone the opportunity to step up in a big way.... I'm looking forward to seeing who that person is.

 

[steakbomb]

Or could this be the 1st straw? (Coyle? Chiasson?)

This becomes a big challenge for the coaching staff, and fortunately they've got two weeks of down time to work it out. Can they regroup the team from a huge on ice loss and emotional loss, and turn a negative into a positive. Can the team band together and play for themselves and prove they're among the best in the nation even without Trivino? Remains to be seen, but this is a huge test of the coaching staff and captain's ability to lead.

 

[collegefan06]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Even more quotes from Parker here: http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2011/...Yihrok9qdxE52m6iK/story.html?s_campaign=sm_fb

Nothing really that new, but he elaborates more. Very, very unusual for him to be this open about a situation like this.

That has been my view with Parker's handling of this. He is acting way out of character in his dealing with the media on this, which makes it seem to me that something is not adding up although I have no idea what that might be......

In similar incidents coaches seem to say as little as possible along the lines of a player has been removed from the team for unspecified reasons allowing the public to put two and two togethe from other media reports.
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Wait, are you saying you don't think lots of college students have an alcohol problem? You can't really think that to be the case.

Nick is only referring to BC students.

 

[steakbomb]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

I would think a coach with Parker's resume would take some pride in trying to take a very talented but troubled kid and go the extra mile to set him on the right path. Those efforts having been unsuccessful, if we've learned anything in the last few months it's that anything less than full disclosure may not be the prudent thing to do, from a PR, recruiting, and from a legal standpoint as well.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Or could this be the 1st straw? (Coyle? Chiasson?)

thats the flip side, lets hope its not the case.

 

[collegefan06]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

I would think a coach with Parker's resume would take some pride in trying to take a very talented but troubled kid and go the extra mile to set him on the right path. Those efforts having been unsuccessful, if we've learned anything in the last few months it's that anything less than full disclosure may not be the prudent thing to do, from a PR, recruiting, and from a legal standpoint as well.

You are assuming that Parker cares about any of his players beyond what they can do for him on the ice.

 

[steakbomb]

I am assuming that. And I believe that.

You are assuming that Parker cares about any of his players beyond what they can do for him on the ice.

 

[Harry Cleverly]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

You are assuming that Parker cares about any of his players beyond what they can do for him on the ice.

That is an incredibly ignorant statement.

Perhaps you should read the Travis Roy book "Eleven Seconds." That might give you an idea if "Parker cares about any of his players beyond what they can do for him on the ice."

Beyond that, just consider how many former players attend games, flock to hockey alumni events and maintain a solid relationship with Parker, often decades after they have graduated.
If he didn't care, and didn't still care after they've gone, they wouldn't care so much.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Do you prefer that he tends to publicize violations or would you rather he be Bill Belichick about it?

Well, I'm an "outsider" in the sense that I only go to the games and I'm a graduate. I'm not privy to any "special" information, nor do I have access to the team. But my GUESS is that there is a LOT of stuff that doesn't get out, as would be the case in virtually any locker room. In this case, however, given the ramifications of the recent events at Syracuse and Penn State, I'm thinking that Parker HAD to go public with this, because as we all know, the media will spin it and if you don't get it out there first, it will appear as though you are "backpedaling." So just to cover himself he had to be proactive. These days, silence is almost an implicit admission of guilt...

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Just because he doesn't come across as "warm and fuzzy" doesn't mean that he doesn't care about his players. I think history has clearly demonstrated that he goes above and beyond when it comes to the well-being of any of his former "family" members (because that's what the players are to him).

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

I'm of the opinion that if you make the decision to get drunk enough to put others at risk and do something like attempted rape, you should be responsible for the consequences of that action the same as though you had been sober.

Agreed...but the question was whether it was "premeditated." Based on the facts as we know them, that does not seem to be the case. No one is saying that he should not be responsible for the conseqences, but the discussion was regarding the opinion that often times "good" people can get drunk, but "good" people don't rape someone. And, unless I'm missing someone, groping and kissing is not rape. As was previously mentioned, the charges will most likely be reduced.

 

[Patronick]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

I promise next time I'll write in small sentences using small words for you. Like cat. C-A-T. Cat.

Now you just look like an idiot. Good show.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Who has been most commonly not dressing for games, that now stands to dress more regularly with the newly opened slot?

 

[Scarlet]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Who has been most commonly not dressing for games, that now stands to dress more regularly with the newly opened slot?

Well, Gilroy for one and Santana, if he's scheduled to return from his injury. Not sure what the status is on either.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

There is no question the HC at BU cares about his kids and is old school. Probably a little more of a generational thing than him not caring. hard to relate to kids doing you tube videos and so forth.
I also found the comment about, "the school doesnt have to do anything blah blah blah, kind of telling. Very similar to when Joe Paterno tried to retire at years end and almost bullying the school into that move. Telling the school not to sopend one minute worrying about it. Not saying that is the case here but you would think some of the stuff he said should be done in conjunction with the school. Agreed, kick off and move on but the verbage was very similar to a coach who has been there a long time and kind of marching to own set of rules. Almost saying the player had zero due process

 

[Jacques Joubert]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

Well, Gilroy for one and Santana, if he's scheduled to return from his injury. Not sure what the status is on either.

Agreed but I think there's too much young talent to go either of those routes for much more than the Notre Dame game.

Chiasson-Connolly-Coyle

Megan-Nieto-Gill

Courtnall-Hohmann-Rodrigues

Gaudet-Rosen-Cisse

That's the winning formula!