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Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

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Wow ... you know things are pretty sour around here when the debate has turned to whether the much-loved PMac was a slacker. :(

As for Coach Parker, over the long haul, a coach should be judged based on whether he wins. St. John's Baskebtball just fired Norm Roberts. Everyone agreed that he was a good guy who cleaned up the program and the team was improving. They just didn't win enough. So after giving him six seasons, they let him go.

In college hockey, it's the same thing. There really is only one way to evaluate the coach: is the program winning? I don't think it is simply winning percentage or even Frozen Fours. The nature of the game and the "one and done" system in the tournament allows for even a great team running into a hot goalie and getting knocked out early. Conversely, thanks to an upset or favorable draw, sometimes a team that is not really FF material makes it to the final weekend. So, for me, the analysis is whether the team is a legit contender to win the championship. Teams like Denver, BC, North Dakota, Michigan, even Miami lately, are usually in the running. Sure, they don't often win the whole thing, they don't always make the Frozen Four, once in a while they have an off year. Still, most of the time, based on how the team played during the season, their fan base can go into the tournament thinking, "this might be our year. We've got a team capable of doing it." In the 90's this was the case at BU. They only won the championship once, but most years, it could have been BU still standing at the end.

With its tradition and reputation, BU ought to be in that group with DU, Michigan, North Dakota, etc. Are they? Looking at BU over the last decade, how many times did BU have a chance to win? How often did BU have the type of success where you could say with a straight face that if this team gets a couple of breaks, they could be holding the championship trophy? As best as I can remember, BU has only had that kind of team twice over the last decade, 05-06' and 08-09'. Other than that, even the teams that made the tournament did not really have a shot at winning it. They were good but that was about it. Of course, over the last decade, some BU teams were mediocre. Or worse.

For a program like this one, 20% is just not good enough. In any given season, a tough group of players can screw up despite the best efforts of a successful coach. Over the course of a decade, however, you can't pin it on one group of players. Over this long a period of time, the buck has to stop with the guy in charge.
 
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Shattenkirk and Colby joined Zach in the Lake Erie lineup tonight for the Monsters' 5-4 shootout win over VDG and Abbotsford.

With LE down 4-2 late in the third, Shattenkirk assisted on goal to narrow the deficit and Zach assisted on the tying goal (with 17 seconds left). No goals in OT, but Shattenkirk had a shoot out goals for the Monsters. Colby got on the scoresheet with his first pro fight.

Shattenkirk took 5 shots, Colby 3. VDG had two assists for the Heat.
 
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No offense, but this is a stretch. Mike Grier and Jay Pandolfo both directly go against your 1st sentence.

Grier and Pando are both bigger guys (than MacArthur especially) who could more easily adapt to a grinding defensive role, exactly like McCarthy. Unless they're prolific scorers (usually drafted by the NHL unless they're Marty St. Louis), many college players have to develop an all-around game to establish themselves in a lineup.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Colby got on the scoresheet with his first pro fight.

I was wondering who would get in one first -- him or Gryba. On a related note, everyone talks about how Colby's shot is the only thing that's NHL-ready. I think his fists are, too. He can definitely lay the smack down. Example A. Example B (against former Eagle Nick Petrecki, no less).
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

While I wait forever to get nachos because bob nutting is the biggest cokcsucking money grubbing ashole on earth....

+1,000000

You a Bucco's fan Mookie? You at the game tonight with the Cedeno walkoff?
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

We've all talked about how much talent we lost after 2009. Then I think, we had all those guys in 08. Bonino, Wilson, Gilroy, Yip, they were all there. So was Pete and Boomer. How did we only win 19 games in 08? Boggles my mind. I know we had BB and some defensive issues the first half, but otherwise that team was STACKED.


Also, Yip and Pete seemed like very similar college players. If Yip can put up decent numbers in the NHL, why can't Pete, given the chance?
 
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BB was terrible. Just completely worthless in every facet of the game.
 
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Also, Yip and Pete seemed like very similar college players. If Yip can put up decent numbers in the NHL, why can't Pete, given the chance?

not really, yip plays more physically, using his size to get position down low and clean up a lot of garbage in front of the net. Pete was more of a playmaker, he has a wicked wrist shot, but wasn't the same kind of player as yip.
 
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There are quite a few similarities between 07-08 and 09-10. Both teams played shoddy defense. Both teams had poor leadership. Both teams got off to poor starts that they could never really recover from. I'm willing to bet some people here will say that 07-08 had a better offense, but worse goaltending. The numbers don't really support that, though. 3.4 goals scored per game in 07-08, 3.2 this year. Bennett had a 2.63 GAA and .888 save%, Millan had a 3.15 and .891. I would say both teams had a good enough offense and not good enough goaltending. But I think the first two things I mentioned (defense and leadership) were the biggest problems on both teams.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

There are quite a few similarities between 07-08 and 09-10. Both teams played shoddy defense. Both teams had poor leadership. Both teams got off to poor starts that they could never really recover from. I'm willing to bet some people here will say that 07-08 had a better offense, but worse goaltending. The numbers don't really support that, though. 3.4 goals scored per game in 07-08, 3.2 this year. Bennett had a 2.63 GAA and .888 save%, Millan had a 3.15 and .891. I would say both teams had a good enough offense and not good enough goaltending. But I think the first two things I mentioned (defense and leadership) were the biggest problems on both teams.

Of course, 07-08 had that fiasco when they tried changing up to a zone defense.

Now that I think about it, for all those bashing Powers and wishing Quinn come back, I guess that failed change in strategy is something that should be pointed out as a partial failure on Quinn's part.

Not that I want to sound like a Quinn basher -- obviously a very good coach -- but that defensive slide in 07-08 is something for those placing him on a pedestal to keep in mind.
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

We've all talked about how much talent we lost after 2009. Then I think, we had all those guys in 08. Bonino, Wilson, Gilroy, Yip, they were all there. So was Pete and Boomer. How did we only win 19 games in 08? Boggles my mind. I know we had BB and some defensive issues the first half, but otherwise that team was STACKED.

Yip was "there" in 07-08' but was a different player in 08-09'.

07-08': 11-12-23 in 37 games.
08-09': 20-23-43 in 45 games.

Other players also had substantial increases [Lawrence went from 8-10-18 to 25-14-39].
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Yes I was/am, Hammer. Originally from belle Vernon. Tonight was $1 night. Tickers, hotdogs, small sodas. Unfortunately for nutting the place banged out, but he was using his seven springs "Low staffing model". Only six will call windows open, so I missed the first 2 1/2 innings in line. Then all concessions were half staffed so I missed the 4th thru 6th waiting for nachos and mt dews for the kids. Nice win. But the dodgers are really bad. Glad to see cedeno get the hit, he hit 9th tonight behind olendorf :p
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Glad to see cedeno get the hit, he hit 9th tonight behind olendorf :p

Won't get deep into a sabermetric argument on these boards, but I love that move, actually.

And I'm just saying, It's A New Pirate Generation (everybody shout LET'S GO BUCS)

I'll stop crowding these hockey boards with irrelevant baseball talk now...sorry about that...
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

If only Matt wiener was catching and doumie was at 1st
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Let's go Redhawks!!! :)

Ask anyone what the greatest rivalry in college basketball is and they will say? North Carolina-Duke. Those are your last two National Champions in b-ball. Ask anyone what the greatst rivalry in college hockey is and they will say? BU-BC. Your last two NC's in hockey. I just thought that was sort of interesting.

BU Hockey: Defending National Champions for Three More Days
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Fed League & Hammer, what happened to the blog piece that would look to the positives from the past season?
 
Re: Boston University 2010 Offseason I - The Year after the Year after effect

Fed League & Hammer, what happened to the blog piece that would look to the positives from the past season?

I think that was an April Fool's joke. :cool:
 
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