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Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

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J.D. said:
LOL at incomplete information. The information is complete. Parker had a chance to respond (if he wanted to) and didn't refute anything that was said. It's just a question of if you believe Glass' account. Incidents, not incident, but ya, I don't think Parker has lost the team. I thought people were really talking about the impact it might have on recruiting?
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The information from Glass is incomplete, namely because I've heard other accounts of parts of his story, including information that was left out of his story. My guess is it's somewhere in between, therefore the information from Glass is incomplete.
 
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J.D. said:
Like what?



My God, you are relentless. Keep up the good fight...



One incident? I'll also page Tom Jackson and say COME ON MAN ;)



LOL at incomplete information. The information is complete. Parker had a chance to respond (if he wanted to) and didn't refute anything that was said. It's just a question of if you believe Glass' account. Incidents, not incident, but ya, I don't think Parker has lost the team. I thought people were really talking about the impact it might have on recruiting?



The funny thing is, while I think BC fans did post on that, I got the impression it was a lot of BU fans.
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Just give me some idea of what your experience is in managing situations like this (meaning any type of HR, employment law, general management training). That you think Parker not publicly commenting on a matter such as this is the equivalent of his agreeing with Glass' account is so naive, it defies description.

His reaction is completely Correct Response 101. If you don't know that then you really are just spouting opinion, which you are entitled to do obviously, just as anybody with any knowledge of how to handle something like this can point out that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. You must know some lawyer or senior manager somewhere...ask them if he should have commented on a disgruntled player's one-sided account to a student paper. Ask them if they would recommend him elaborating on the conduct of a college student in the press, ask them if there is a chance this could end up in litigation, ask them if fighting this case in a student newspaper would do more harm than good.

It is fine if you haven't experienced stuff like this before, frankly it can be very disheartening when you hear that your side of a story, or 'the truth' as you see it, cannot be published when the other side is out courting public opinion. But anyone with a brain can see Parker and the University have more to lose than the Glass family when it comes to a war of words in the press.
 
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slurpees said:
The information from Glass is incomplete, namely because I've heard other accounts of parts of his story, including information that was left out of his story. My guess is it's somewhere in between, therefore the information from Glass is incomplete.
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So you don't believe his entire account--that's fine. With all this alleged information out there that discredits Glass' story, you'd think someone would be running to the press to get it out there.

pirate said:
Just give me some idea of what your experience is in managing situations like this (meaning any type of HR, employment law, general management training). That you think Parker not publicly commenting on a matter such as this is the equivalent of his agreeing with Glass' account is so naive, it defies description.

His reaction is completely Correct Response 101. If you don't know that then you really are just spouting opinion, which you are entitled to do obviously, just as anybody with any knowledge of how to handle something like this can point out that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. You must know some lawyer or senior manager somewhere...ask them if he should have commented on a disgruntled player's one-sided account to a student paper. Ask them if they would recommend him elaborating on the conduct of a college student in the press, ask them if there is a chance this could end up in litigation, ask them if fighting this case in a student newspaper would do more harm than good.

It is fine if you haven't experienced stuff like this before, frankly it can be very disheartening when you hear that your side of a story, or 'the truth' as you see it, cannot be published when the other side is out courting public opinion. But anyone with a brain can see Parker and the University have more to lose than the Glass family when it comes to a war of words in the press.
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Wow. Look, I'm not gonna get into a long-winded battle with you on this because it's clear you will win. Like I said, you are relentless. You just continue to make this a lot more complicated than it actually was--which is fine as well. That's what you'll do to defend your coach. And I never said Parker's lack of response meant he agreed with everything Glass said. I did say that his lack of response means that the information on this matter is complete--good or bad. Get a clue before you get all high and mighty and try to use naive 100 times :rolleyes:
 
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J.D. said:
So you don't believe his entire account--that's fine. With all this alleged information out there that discredits Glass' story, you'd think someone would be running to the press to get it out there.
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I've said this before- Parker has no intention of getting into a war of words in the press. I know you'd like to believe he jumps at every opportunity to throw a kid under the bus or that he's forcing players to leak info, but believe it or not, he never says much when it comes to these types of things. I'm sure he has his reasons for dismissing Glass and I'm sure he has a counter to Glass' story, but he's not gonna be telling it to anyone. As for no one getting the other side out there, I'm pretty sure one player did, at least in part.
 
Federal League said:
I've said this before- Parker has no intention of getting into a war of words in the press. I know you'd like to believe he jumps at every opportunity to throw a kid under the bus or that he's forcing players to leak info, but believe it or not, he never says much when it comes to these types of things. I'm sure he has his reasons for dismissing Glass and I'm sure he has a counter to Glass' story, but he's not gonna be telling it to anyone. As for no one getting the other side out there, I'm pretty sure one player did, at least in part.
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To avoid any further confusion, let me make something perfectly clear...I don't expect Parker to respond. I guess I just don't like the phrase "incomplete information" being tossed around. Good or bad, the information brought forward to the public's eye is complete, no? People can talk about having inside information but that doesn't take away from the fact we only have one side of this--a negative slant from Glass. That alone just isn't good in any aspect and leads people to one option...do you believe him or not? My stance is that considering he was the one contacted about this...I really don't see a reason not to believe him. That's just my opinion.

As for throwing kids under the bus, I think it's completely fair and accurate to say Parker has done that before in various ways.

And, yes, an anonymous player did come out but he really didn't reveal anything earth shattering or specific.
 
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Federal League said:
Be careful. That's not a verified twitter account.
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It isn't, but I'm struggling to find a single hockey player that is verified, especially in the minor leagues like Colby is. He interacts with a large number of his former teammates and other people in the hockey world on there. It is him.
 
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RockTheWhit said:
It isn't, but I'm struggling to find a single hockey player that is verified, especially in the minor leagues like Colby is. He interacts with a large number of his former teammates and other people in the hockey world on there. It is him.
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It certainly seems like it's his, yes. But I'm just saying you can't assume that.
 
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Wouldn't it be great if York and Parker were on Twitter? :p;):D

Congrats on the three points up at Maine. Down 3-1 in game one and having Millan bombarded in game two--impressive results, especially considering how good Maine has been at home this year. Looks to me like UNH and BC will battle it out for 1/2 while BU/Merrimack/Maine will be fighting for the final two home playoff spots. I thought Merrimack might have the inside track for #3, but looking at BU's relatively easy schedule down the stretch, I'm not sure that's the case. Either way, a BU vs. NU/Maine/Merrimack QF series would be highly entertaining.
 
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J.D. said:
Wouldn't it be great if York and Parker were on Twitter? :p;):D

...but looking at BU's relatively easy schedule down the stretch, I'm not sure that's the case....
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I'm relying on memory here, but I think MC has it fairly easy until the final weekend (2 @ UMO).
 
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buoldtimer said:
I'm relying on memory here, but I think MC has it fairly easy until the final weekend (2 @ UMO).
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BU: UML, @UMass, PC, @PC, UVM, UVM, @NU, NU
MC: @NU, UMass, @UNH, UNH, @UMass, UMass, @Maine, @Maine, PC, @PC
Maine: @UNH, @UNH, UVM, UVM, @UML, @UML, MC, MC, @UMass, @UMass

It would certainly appear that BU has the easiest finish of those three.
 
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Bomber said:
Secondly, here is the hard question we need to ask regarding this upcoming stretch of games: Is BU better than BC, Maine, UNH, or Merrimack? Hmmm. Definitely not BC. Maine? UNH? Merrimack!? :eek:

I'd take 2-3. 3-2 would be awesome. 1-4 would suck, but not a shocker. 0-5 and we'll be calling for Jack's head again. :)
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So we got a bit more than Bomber (and I) would have taken. If #12 had buried #6's pass late in third, we'd be in awesome-land.

But five games (four on the road) against higher ranked teams, and BU ends up with two one-goal losses, two one-goal wins, and a tie. You have to say that the Terriers are in the hunt. I especially like the facts that (a) Mlllan is rock-solid again and (b) this team doesn't quit.

It looks like five teams are battling for home ice and BU is done with all of them: BC 0-3, Merrimack 0-1-2, Maine 1-0-2, and UNH 2-1. Maine has two games left with both NH and Merrimack. Merrimack also has a couple with UNH. (BC and UNH play two, but that's moot because both are in.)

BU can't take anyone lightly but they're through with the real iron.
 
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goalguard said:
It looks like five teams are battling for home ice

(BC and UNH play two, but that's moot because both are in.)
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Right, so really three teams competing for two home spots. Who would you rather play? Merrimack or Maine? Is it as simple as Maine because BU won the season series? When you look closer, BU has two ties against each, a one goal loss to MC and a one goal win against Maine.
 
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J.D. said:
Right, so really three teams competing for two home spots. Who would you rather play? Merrimack or Maine? Is it as simple as Maine because BU won the season series? When you look closer, BU has two ties against each, a one goal loss to MC and a one goal win against Maine.
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I think you'd have to say Maine. Cannata could steal a short series. Maine's goalies... not so much.
 
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J.D. said:
To avoid any further confusion, let me make something perfectly clear...I don't expect Parker to respond. I guess I just don't like the phrase "incomplete information" being tossed around. Good or bad, the information brought forward to the public's eye is complete, no? People can talk about having inside information but that doesn't take away from the fact we only have one side of this--a negative slant from Glass. That alone just isn't good in any aspect and leads people to one option...do you believe him or not? My stance is that considering he was the one contacted about this...I really don't see a reason not to believe him. That's just my opinion.

As for throwing kids under the bus, I think it's completely fair and accurate to say Parker has done that before in various ways.

And, yes, an anonymous player did come out but he really didn't reveal anything earth shattering or specific.
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When I said incomplete information, I probably should've made it clearer and said an incomplete story. It's becoming increasingly more clear that the story Glass gave to FL was not a complete account of everything that happened. That's all. And we do have more than one side, a current player went to FL, whom we trust is not making this up, and gave a counter to the story Glass gave FL. So there are two published sides, not to mention Colby's tweets, and others around the team who have differing accounts of what Glass said. So unless everyone else is lying, Glass' story is incomplete.
 
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goalguard said:
But five games (four on the road) against higher ranked teams, and BU ends up with two one-goal losses, two one-goal wins, and a tie. You have to say that the Terriers are in the hunt. I especially like the facts that (a) Mlllan is rock-solid again and (b) this team doesn't quit.
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I think Millan is THE key for this team down the stretch. If he stays consistent and raises his play another notch in the post season, March could be fun on Comm Ave. But his play is crucial 'cause the powerplay is atrocious and the defense is iffy.

goalguard said:
BU can't take anyone lightly but they're through with the real iron.
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I could see them losing by 2 or 3 goals to anyone left on their schedule if Millan is off his game and they continue to play poor 1st periods.
 
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slurpees said:
It's becoming increasingly more clear that the story Glass gave to FL was not a complete account of everything that happened. That's all. And we do have more than one side, a current player went to FL, whom we trust is not making this up, and gave a counter to the story Glass gave FL. So there are two published sides, not to mention Colby's tweets, and others around the team who have differing accounts of what Glass said. So unless everyone else is lying, Glass' story is incomplete.
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We're gonna have to agree to disagree here. The anonymous player/Cohen didn't really shed any light on the situation IMO. Unless you want to offer specific quotes other than "Glass is a liar", etc., I haven't seen anything specific that goes against Glass' account. For example, is there anything out there that says Parker did return calls/e-mails from Glass/his father? Or that he did in fact shake their hands when they came in for the meeting? That's what I'm getting at--those specific parts of Glass' story that tell me Parker could have handled the whole thing better.
 
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