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Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

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ok. can't finish January with a losing record this month. i wouldn't have taken that bet on Dec 31st. gotta be a little happy with that.

also, first win giving up 3 or more goals since the NU win on 12/8. offense is nice too (with KM playing well in net...). seems like the boys are being outshot every game.
 
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I think it is his fukking job to care when a player or parent of a player send him a voicemail whether he is on the road or sitting in his tub playing with his rubber ducky.

And I didn't see where you argued the locker clearing thing so I am assuming you acknowledge that as bizarro behavior?

And you are a D1 Athletic Director? It doesn't really matter what we all think the job description should say.

As for the locker, yeah, if there was no communication whatsoever, then that is a pretty dramatic step. Whether it is a cop movie or a sports movie you frequently hear the "clear out your locker" line. I can remember our HS football coach using that as the challenge to the team "if you don't like it, clear out your locker and quit". I have a friend who is a D1 head coach in another sport, I'll ask him what he thinks about the locker thing. I will say that I won't be surprised if we find out that previously Parker had told him that one more occurrence and he was off the team, or something to that effect.

The locker is the property of the school and I don't think it is unprofessional to clean it out if you have decided the player is off the team. They aren't allowed in the locker room if they aren't on the team so their stuff shouldn't be in there. I could hear the whining if he made the player go in there in front of his teammates and clear out his locker. It is absolutely not unusual for a company to tell a dismissed employee that they will clear the desk/office, collect the personal effects and either deliver them or make them available through HR. Once you are terminated for cause, you have no right to return to the desk and the company has the obligation to protect its current employees and also not allow unauthorized people to enter the workplace. In some situations the person is escorted to the desk but that often brings claims of being intentionally embarrassing. And no, it is not incumbent on the team or a company to make the workplace available off hours so the person can retrieve their stuff.

If Glass had no idea he was on thin ice, had no previous issues and had never been given any feedback to straighten up, then it would be a gross over-reaction. If, at the end of this we hear that is the case I will absolutely say Parker's action was not proportionate. However, I think we all know that wasn't the case.
 
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once I had a kid, couldn’t shoot or pass
soon turned out had a heart of glass
seemed like the real thing, only to find
back at Nobles, skills left behind
once I had a kid, I thought was divine
soon found out I was losing my mind
it seemed like the real thing but I'm old and blind
back at Nobles, skills left behind

what to do?
have to free that schollie, found next one to sign
he really had no clue, thought he was top two lines
then he missed some meetings plus, he's just not good
cant please me like warso

once I had a kid and his name was glass
ditched my lifts, rather go to class
Seemed like the real thing, only to find
rather study, skills left behind

called his dad
made up some crazy story, through my teeth I lied
you're the one I'm using, is what I tried to hide
without you we'll stop losing, yeah

once I had a kid and his name was glass
Soon turned out to be a pain in the azz
Seemed like the real thing only to find
rather study, skills left behind
 
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

But did he know you had already acquired statements from Glass about it? The reason I ask is I'm curious if was prepared for such a one-sided story to come out. No fault of yours since that's all you had.

I told Parker I talked to Glass and his dad and I read him a lot of what they said and gave him a chance to respond. He chose not to and fully understood that was going to make the story one-sided.
 
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

well, after the BC loss last week you guys were teetering on the brink then two tough road wins rights the ship a bit. very impressive IMO . a win tonight and a sweep of those 3 road games would be huge going forward
 
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And you are a D1 Athletic Director? It doesn't really matter what we all think the job description should say.

I don't think you have to be an Athletic Director to know what is professional and what isn't. You don't need to be a cop to realize that rape is wrong...right?

As for the locker, yeah, if there was no communication whatsoever, then that is a pretty dramatic step.

Good we can at least agree on that.
 
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gmy favorite part is how he had someone clean out the kids stall. who does that? why didnt he just change the locks on the doors. that would teach'em! second would be the whole ridiculous evaluation part - you are off the team because you think too highly of yourself! maybe bertagna should ask parker to rank himself among the other HE coaches and then boot bu from the league because his answer will be wrong.

Isn't the real question.. where is the stuff from his locker? How much of the stuff in that locker was personally owned by Glass? Did they put a bag in his dorm room? Is it in the trash?
 
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I have to think that there are more recruits (and parents) that feel very strongly that they DO NOT want their kid to play for Jack than there are that feel very strongly that they DO want their kid to go to play for him, whether it be his age, his approach/personality, or the lack of national success since 1997 other than 2009 (having BC dominate the national scene over the same time frame hasn't helped). And that may be fine - there are lots of good recruits out there.

I have to say that I thought of the wussification of America when I read this. It used to be parents wanted their kids to play for a tough/hard-nosed/tough disciplinarian. And if their son got kicked off the team, he got dope slapped for screwing up a great opportunity. And too many former players speak highly of their BU experience for me to believe he's a liability. Sorry. And one incident, of which we only have one side of the story, isn't going to deep-six the program.

BU Hockey: Perspective

PS: Nice win last night. I think this team is gaining confidence. Oh, and if the team "hates their coach" (to be said like Tom Jackson) wouldn't they be phoning it in at this point?
 
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PS: Nice win last night. I think this team is gaining confidence. Oh, and if the team "hates their coach" (to be said like Tom Jackson) wouldn't they be phoning it in at this point?

And subsequently not responding to him when he calls a timeout and calms them down when they've given up three goals in 75 seconds and the toughest venue in the conference is going bonkers. It's laughable to think Parker's lost these guys because of an isolated incident with Glass where we have incomplete information, and because he kicked a guy off the team for missing bike rides that were a punishment for previous bad behavior. That's getting rid of a cancer on the team.
 
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And subsequently not responding to him when he calls a timeout and calms them down when they've given up three goals in 75 seconds and the toughest venue in the conference is going bonkers. It's laughable to think Parker's lost these guys because of an isolated incident with Glass where we have incomplete information, and because he kicked a guy off the team for missing bike rides that were a punishment for previous bad behavior. That's getting rid of a cancer on the team.

have you two been reading the comments of the dfp blog too?!?!?! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D:p
 
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

ok then. 12-7-7 is workable. no reason the boys can not finish the regular season here with a 9-1-0 run. i mean, really.. playing average they should go 9-1-0
 
And those comments are all BU fans, right? ;) :)

2-2-1 for the key five. I'll take it.

And we really only played woefully bad hockey for about 2 to 2.5 periods in that stretch. 4 of 5 on the road not bad. Certainly in a position where we can win our way into the tournament without needing to run deep into the he tourney. Ball is in our court.
 
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

ok then. 12-7-7 is workable. no reason the boys can not finish the regular season here with a 9-1-0 run. i mean, really.. playing average they should go 9-1-0

What kind of sandbagging is that? Some newfangled reverse reverse thing?
 
Re: Boston University 2010-11 part II - The Hunt For Red November

There were several issues in Vinny Saponari's dismissal left out of the public statements, I'm sure to Vinny's relief.

Like what?

As for the locker, yeah, if there was no communication whatsoever, then that is a pretty dramatic step. Whether it is a cop movie or a sports movie you frequently hear the "clear out your locker" line. I can remember our HS football coach using that as the challenge to the team "if you don't like it, clear out your locker and quit". I have a friend who is a D1 head coach in another sport, I'll ask him what he thinks about the locker thing. I will say that I won't be surprised if we find out that previously Parker had told him that one more occurrence and he was off the team, or something to that effect.

The locker is the property of the school and I don't think it is unprofessional to clean it out if you have decided the player is off the team. They aren't allowed in the locker room if they aren't on the team so their stuff shouldn't be in there. I could hear the whining if he made the player go in there in front of his teammates and clear out his locker. It is absolutely not unusual for a company to tell a dismissed employee that they will clear the desk/office, collect the personal effects and either deliver them or make them available through HR. Once you are terminated for cause, you have no right to return to the desk and the company has the obligation to protect its current employees and also not allow unauthorized people to enter the workplace. In some situations the person is escorted to the desk but that often brings claims of being intentionally embarrassing. And no, it is not incumbent on the team or a company to make the workplace available off hours so the person can retrieve their stuff.

If Glass had no idea he was on thin ice, had no previous issues and had never been given any feedback to straighten up, then it would be a gross over-reaction. If, at the end of this we hear that is the case I will absolutely say Parker's action was not proportionate. However, I think we all know that wasn't the case.

My God, you are relentless. Keep up the good fight...

And one incident, of which we only have one side of the story, isn't going to deep-six the program.

One incident? I'll also page Tom Jackson and say COME ON MAN ;)

It's laughable to think Parker's lost these guys because of an isolated incident with Glass where we have incomplete information, and because he kicked a guy off the team for missing bike rides that were a punishment for previous bad behavior. That's getting rid of a cancer on the team.

LOL at incomplete information. The information is complete. Parker had a chance to respond (if he wanted to) and didn't refute anything that was said. It's just a question of if you believe Glass' account. Incidents, not incident, but ya, I don't think Parker has lost the team. I thought people were really talking about the impact it might have on recruiting?

And those comments are all BU fans, right? ;) :)

The funny thing is, while I think BC fans did post on that, I got the impression it was a lot of BU fans.
 
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