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Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

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They play 20 skaters?

i didn't count, but i believe so. rolled 3 d pairs and 4 lines. even got 2 goalies in the game :p :p

the two t/o i recall were in the first (he fell going behind the left from the left wing to the right), then on the other end in the 2nd (lost the puck low on the rw side of the net). i didn't notice him much in the back end of the 3rd. not sure if they cut a pair, or that was just good play (less notice of dmen usually means they aren't being mentioned - ie, beaten).

and it's not like he was the only one losing a puck here or there, but when he came out i was following him as much as the camera would allow me to - ya know?
 
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Based on his performance at the WJC, US hockey can keep him as far as I'm concerned. I don't think he even got in the lineup for the championship game (I wasn't able to watch it) - the only box score I could find listed 20 guys but two didnt have any points, penalties, shots or a +/- and he was one of them.

Y'all are insane. Atleast you admit that you are dissing someone without even seeing him play.
 
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i didn't count, but i believe so. rolled 3 d pairs and 4 lines. even got 2 goalies in the game :p :p

the two t/o i recall were in the first (he fell going behind the left from the left wing to the right), then on the other end in the 2nd (lost the puck low on the rw side of the net). i didn't notice him much in the back end of the 3rd. not sure if they cut a pair, or that was just good play (less notice of dmen usually means they aren't being mentioned - ie, beaten).

and it's not like he was the only one losing a puck here or there, but when he came out i was following him as much as the camera would allow me to - ya know?

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but the box score has 20 skaters and two goalies. He only had 2 assists but was a +5 in seven games. Kinda expect more when some of the games weren't really competitive.
 
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Y'all are insane. Atleast you admit that you are dissing someone without even seeing him play.

Yeah, I didn't get a chance to watch one of the games he played. The other games I saw him play, he didn't look good. In the previous years, BU guys seemed to excel when they played with better teammates like that. Not this time, though.
 
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I can't tell if you're joking or not, but the box score has 20 skaters and two goalies. He only had 2 assists but was a +5 in seven games. Kinda expect more when some of the games weren't really competitive.

not joking.

the defensemen played defense. cam fowler only had a couple assists. i think carlson and donovan were the only dmen who scored. the rest had assists and help to clear out the front in the defensive end. blais had the forwards playing offense.

it's not like there was a lack of talent up front that would require a warso, or shattenkirk, or whomever to jump up -- though i'm glad carlson did last night :p
 
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Based on his performance at the WJC, US hockey can keep him as far as I'm concerned. I don't think he even got in the lineup for the championship game (I wasn't able to watch it) - the only box score I could find listed 20 guys but two didnt have any points, penalties, shots or a +/- and he was one of them.

I'm not sure what tournament you watched, but he played lockdown defense pretty much all tournament. Yeah, he didn't get too involved in the offense, but that's because this team had other, probably better, offensive defensemen (namely John Carlson, Matt Donovan and Cam Fowler). For most of the tournament, Warsofsky was paired with Carlson, who looked like a 4th forward at times. Warsofsky's job on this particular team was to stay at home, and he was very good in that role. I watched every minute of every US game, and I can't remember Warsofsky being at fault on any goals against. Even in the Sweden game when he was a -2, he had his man covered on both of those goals.

They play 20 skaters?

Yes. 13 forwards, 7 D.
 
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Say what you want about the legitimacy of the bad blood, etc., but the players seem to embrace the rivalry more than in a lot of good rivalries. They played a game a couple weeks back and the teams dropped the gloves three times in 17 seconds in the first period.

Just about the same thing happened tonight with Flyers vs. Leafs. Everyone hates the Flyers and seems to think of them at least as some sort of secondary rival and they coincidentally (;)) have a lot of players who drop the gloves.

Make no mistake, the fans have made it a big rivalry and the players have followed suit, but I'm just surprised that people in other areas of the country find it to be such a draw.
 
Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

Just about the same thing happened tonight with Flyers vs. Leafs. Everyone hates the Flyers and seems to think of them at least as some sort of secondary rival and they coincidentally (;)) have a lot of players who drop the gloves.

Make no mistake, the fans have made it a big rivalry and the players have followed suit, but I'm just surprised that people in other areas of the country find it to be such a draw.

yeah yeah...

just admit their heralded unbeaten streak is tainted :p
 
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I'm not sure what tournament you watched, but he played lockdown defense pretty much all tournament. Yeah, he didn't get too involved in the offense, but that's because this team had other, probably better, offensive defensemen (namely John Carlson, Matt Donovan and Cam Fowler). For most of the tournament, Warsofsky was paired with Carlson, who looked like a 4th forward at times. Warsofsky's job on this particular team was to stay at home, and he was very good in that role. I watched every minute of every US game, and I can't remember Warsofsky being at fault on any goals against. Even in the Sweden game when he was a -2, he had his man covered on both of those goals.



Yes. 13 forwards, 7 D.

You call it lockdown D, I call it lost offensively. You can play D and contribute offensively, from the blueline, without jumping into the play. I thought he was neither good nor bad defensively and nonexistent on the other end of the ice. Like I said, previous BU guys really shined in past years and I was disappointed with Warsofsky. Of course, it doesn't really matter if he comes back with a jump in his step. We'll find out Friday.
 
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Yeah, I didn't get a chance to watch one of the games he played. The other games I saw him play, he didn't look good. In the previous years, BU guys seemed to excel when they played with better teammates like that. Not this time, though.

Well I wouldn't comment on his looks, but his play was very good excepting one game [can't remember which other than it being a fairly easy win for the US and a number of guys being a bit off - it only stood out to me as a superstitious person because I thought it was kind of funny that I was wearing last year's F4 shirt the one night he didn't play as well & it relegated that shirt back to the suitcase after doing laundry - maybe I'll wear it to Fenway :-) ].

He had what felt like 5 minutes of playing goaltender during the New Year's Eve game and made smart moves and appeared to be a leader the whole tournament. I have to believe either you didn't really watch the games, you don't know hockey, esp. the defensive side or you are one of those people who think they sound smart if they dis players and really just sound idiotic.

(Note: I haven't watched the games on tv yet, but while some nuances of the game are much more apparent live than on tv, your view is a complete distortion.)

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WJC, but not Warsofsky related - had quite a few people bring up Gryba to me, all favorably as a Saskatoon-native. I'm guessing he'll have no issue with the cold at Fenway unless he's been away too long. It is COLD there.
 
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And we love that. :D

It's too hard to be one of America's Teams or anything like that, eventually everyone wants to stop hearing about them and wants them to lose. It's better to be a perpetual villain, you never lose that tag.
 
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I have to believe either you didn't really watch the games, you don't know hockey, esp. the defensive side or you are one of those people who think they sound smart if they dis players and really just sound idiotic.

This sounds about right.

Warsofsky changed his game for the team and fit what they needed. I would've loved to see him rushing the puck like he usually does, but it's hard to argue with the results.
 
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Well I wouldn't comment on his looks, but his play was very good excepting one game [can't remember which other than it being a fairly easy win for the US and a number of guys being a bit off - it only stood out to me as a superstitious person because I thought it was kind of funny that I was wearing last year's F4 shirt the one night he didn't play as well & it relegated that shirt back to the suitcase after doing laundry - maybe I'll wear it to Fenway :-) ].

He had what felt like 5 minutes of playing goaltender during the New Year's Eve game and made smart moves and appeared to be a leader the whole tournament. I have to believe either you didn't really watch the games, you don't know hockey, esp. the defensive side or you are one of those people who think they sound smart if they dis players and really just sound idiotic.

(Note: I haven't watched the games on tv yet, but while some nuances of the game are much more apparent live than on tv, your view is a complete distortion.)

This sounds about right.

Warsofsky changed his game for the team and fit what they needed. I would've loved to see him rushing the puck like he usually does, but it's hard to argue with the results.

What they said.

BU Fan- This team had plenty of offense. What they needed from Warsofsky was defense, not offense, and that's what he gave them. As for your assessment that he was neither good nor bad on defense...

I have to believe either you didn't really watch the games, you don't know hockey, esp. the defensive side or you are one of those people who think they sound smart if they dis players and really just sound idiotic.
 
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You call it lockdown D, I call it lost offensively. You can play D and contribute offensively, from the blueline, without jumping into the play. I thought he was neither good nor bad defensively and nonexistent on the other end of the ice. Like I said, previous BU guys really shined in past years and I was disappointed with Warsofsky. Of course, it doesn't really matter if he comes back with a jump in his step. We'll find out Friday.

I have to agree with everyone else- you must not have been watching the tournament, or don't know anything about defensive hockey and what makes a good defenseman. A player does not have to be flashy and shine offensively to be a great defenseman - Warsofsky was always in the right position, made clean, smart passing plays, was willing to sacrifice his body frequently, and overall showed a fantastic shutdown style that impressed me, as it was an aspect of his game that we haven't seen. It's really nice to know that if asked, he can perform those roles, and perform them really well.

Not to mention the fact that I've read a couple of things that talked about how he showed a great deal of leadership from the very beginning of the camp.
 
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I have to believe either you ...don't know hockey, ...or you are one of those people who think they sound smart if they dis players and really just sound idiotic.

You're just figuring this stuff out now? This is BUFanboy84 here. Nothing shocking.

I have to agree with everyone else- you must not have been watching the tournament, or don't know anything about defensive hockey

Don't limit things to defensive hockey here. This is textbook fanboy behavior that you'd expect from someone that doesn't know anything about the game. You imply he may know about the offensive side by mentioning he doesn't know about the defensive side. Unfortunately offensive knowledge is easy for someone to try to fake because they simply look at the stats and box scores and use that to discuss the offensive side. Two greats that stand alone in the pantheon of fanboy idiocy both love to look at box scores and simple numbers without knowing anything about the game - BUFan84 and Yankeefat (Brian Gibbons may leave early for the NHL... hahahahhaahahahah).
 
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DW was exactly what they needed in that tournament. Dean Blais singled him and 2 others out in the press conference as fguys who adjuted their games at the etams request to fit their game plan. Carlson, Donovan, Fowler are all about offense and it is tough to have a whole team of D playing that style. DW was a plus 5 and had 2 assists in the tournament. Was not on the ice for any of Canadas goals, both times they played. It is a testament to his hockey sense that he could do that. Might be the reason why Moore didnt make it, I.e. they didn't think he could shut it down enough.

Carlson was a literal forward the first game, they obviously told him to slow it down, as it showe(accept when it mattered, God bless him)

DW is a great Terrier, great kid and a great teammate. They won the gold medal and he was a big part of it. He made several little plays that might not have been noticed by us at home but were so by the coaches. Touch passes, great first passes etc.

BC would kill to have him, that says it all...
 
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I watched most of the USA games and I have to admit that overall, I thought Warsofsky had more than his share of the turnovers among the d-men. I think he made up for it in general with some good plays, but I thought that in his d-zone, he was more of a liability than an asset. Just an honest opinion, not trying to dis' him (beleive me, I was hoping to be able to say otherwise).

I have no issue with him not showing up on the scoresheet. He played the role the team needed him to, and that shows maturity. Also glad to hear he was one of the leaders on the team - not a surprise given his USNDTP captaincy.

Bottom line, the whole experience will be a positive for him, and hopefully for BU Hockey.
 
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