Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Overall a great game, nerve-racking as expected.
- Greenway was definitely on his game.
- Bowers was very quiet. I know he isn't flashy, but he didn't posses the puck a whole lot.
- Oettinger was unreal. Other than the five-hole shot that hit the post early, he was immense. Needless to say, the team needs him on his game the rest of the season.
- Cockerill is fun to watch, and I can see him turning into quite a scorer as he develops. He is already learning to use his speed more effectively - he singlehandedly created a few turnovers in the offensive zone and was back-checking tremendously.
- Amonte also played a strong game. I'm glad we killed off that OT penalty on him - I didn't want him to be the goat.
- Related - I thought the refs did a good job of letting them play down the stretch. It would have been hard not to call the Amonte penalty, and I figured, 15 minutes into OT, they probably thought - at some point we have to start calling the really obvious ones. I enjoyed someone's tweet about Madigan asking/remarking that you are actually allowed to kill off an OT penalty.
- NU looks very good. Their talent on that top line and in goal could carry them a long way. They have to be the favorite.

Lastly - I assume last night is considered a tie from a Pairwise perspective?

 

[Tater]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Lastly - I assume last night is considered a tie from a Pairwise perspective?

Goes in as a win. BU is up to #18 in Pairwise.

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

From someone who attended the Beanpot last night, what is your best guess as to how attendance topped out? I'm not interested in "announced" attendance. Looked to be many empty seats, even during the prime attendance period.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

From someone who attended the Beanpot last night, what is your best guess as to how attendance topped out? I'm not interested in "announced" attendance. Looked to be many empty seats, even during the prime attendance period.

I was only there for the BU / Harvard game but I'd guess somewhere around 5000 were in attendance for that.... maybe a few more at the very start of the game. Maybe it is time to consider moving this to a Friday.

 

[Scarlet]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Moving this to Friday is not going to do anything. Here’s my observations....

In the past, many more people would stay for a good portion of both games. The largest crowds would be there from the third period of the first game through about the second period of the second game. Now, people there to see the first game leave.

Also, I do think that when the NFL moved the Super Bowl to the first Sunday in February, it affected the Beanpot a bit. Part of the allure of the Beanpot was that there was nothing in February from a sports perspective.

Also, with the game on TV, I think people stay in to watch. Especially after a late night watching the Super Bowl.

And I know it’s winter and supposed to col, but the lack of a pumped up, energetic crowd really made it colder in there.

And, the exorbitant parking prices don’t help.

 

[Bomber]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Again, this is the team I want to watch the rest of the season. Win or lose, give me some speed and run-and-gun offense. They have the pieces to make it work.

 

[Bomber]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Moving this to Friday is not going to do anything. Here’s my observations....

In the past, many more people would stay for a good portion of both games. The largest crowds would be there from the third period of the first game through about the second period of the second game. Now, people there to see the first game leave.

Also, I do think that when the NFL moved the Super Bowl to the first Sunday in February, it affected the Beanpot a bit. Part of the allure of the Beanpot was that there was nothing in February from a sports perspective.

Also, with the game on TV, I think people stay in to watch. Especially after a late night watching the Super Bowl.

And I know it’s winter and supposed to col, but the lack of a pumped up, energetic crowd really made it colder in there.

And, the exorbitant parking prices don’t help.

I agree with the SB being a factor. Especially with the local team in the game every **** year.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Moving this to Friday is not going to do anything. Here’s my observations....

In the past, many more people would stay for a good portion of both games. The largest crowds would be there from the third period of the first game through about the second period of the second game. Now, people there to see the first game leave.

Also, I do think that when the NFL moved the Super Bowl to the first Sunday in February, it affected the Beanpot a bit. Part of the allure of the Beanpot was that there was nothing in February from a sports perspective.

Also, with the game on TV, I think people stay in to watch. Especially after a late night watching the Super Bowl.

And I know it’s winter and supposed to col, but the lack of a pumped up, energetic crowd really made it colder in there.

And, the exorbitant parking prices don’t help.

The Superbowl part is true. Even if the Patriots are not playing in it, it is still an evening where people are up later than normal / out at parties etc and people are less likely to do that two nights in a row.

I know that moving to Friday will never happen with the Garden scheduling etc, but I do think that if it could ever happen, it would help attendance. There would be a lot more people with kids etc willing to have them out late on a Friday as opposed to a Monday / school night.

As to staying for both games, Garden food / beer prices do not help much either.... although out to eat before the BU/Harvard game and watching the BC/NU game on TV, there was almost nobody in the bar either. There were far more empty tables at the Harp than there were full tables.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Moving this to Friday is not going to do anything. Here’s my observations....

In the past, many more people would stay for a good portion of both games. The largest crowds would be there from the third period of the first game through about the second period of the second game. Now, people there to see the first game leave.

Also, I do think that when the NFL moved the Super Bowl to the first Sunday in February, it affected the Beanpot a bit. Part of the allure of the Beanpot was that there was nothing in February from a sports perspective.

Also, with the game on TV, I think people stay in to watch. Especially after a late night watching the Super Bowl.

And I know it’s winter and supposed to col, but the lack of a pumped up, energetic crowd really made it colder in there.

And, the exorbitant parking prices don’t help.

Agreed on ALL counts.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

I agree with the SB being a factor. Especially with the local team in the game every **** year.

That will be ending soon...expect some HUGE changes. Nothing lasts forever and 18 years is pretty **** good!

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Also, I do think that when the NFL moved the Super Bowl to the first Sunday in February, it affected the Beanpot a bit. Part of the allure of the Beanpot was that there was nothing in February from a sports perspective.

I thought of this last night, and realized that the 3rd Monday in February is a holiday for most people, which would make the 4:30 time slot the 2nd night easier for many people if it was moved to the 2nd and 3rd Mondays.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

I thought of this last night, and realized that the 3rd Monday in February is a holiday for most people, which would make the 4:30 time slot the 2nd night easier for many people if it was moved to the 2nd and 3rd Mondays.

Yes, but the consolation final at a more convenient time is not going to be an attendance game changer.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Yes, but the consolation final at a more convenient time is not going to be an attendance game changer.

Correct, but moving the first week out of the shadow of the Super Bowl and the 2nd week to a holiday could help. Granted Garden might not want to give a holiday date to college hockey.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Correct, but moving the first week out of the shadow of the Super Bowl and the 2nd week to a holiday could help. Granted Garden might not want to give a holiday date to college hockey.

Absolutely. Even without the Pats in it, that is 2 late nights in a row for a lot of people....

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Mookie had no choice but to watch on the app (which is fruking awesome!!! Best picture off the web evah!!!)

 

[TheRevengeance]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Popping over from the NU thread to say I agree with the second and third Mondays idea. Just looking at the calendar, Disney on Ice is there, which I should have known. Since they run shows starting at like noon I would bet the holiday is among their bigger days of the run.

 

[Harry Cleverly]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

The crowd at the first night of the Beanpot was a huge disappointment. The TD Garden was less than half full for both games.
I am not sure what the official attendance was, but if there were more than 8,000 total, I would be very surprised.
The Beanpot used to be one of the toughest tickets in town. There were whole sections in the upper deck without a single soul.
Are the prices too high? Has the event lost its luster??
If there are going to be that many empty seats, I hope they are not perpetuating a fib that you can't get a ticket. You don't need to know someone anymore. You don't have to make a donation to your school. Just walk up to the box office before the game and put down your money.
If it is a TD Garden event -- and not a four schools event -- they should be marketing the empty seats at each of the four schools' games leading up to the event.
Snooks Kelley used to say the "Beanpot was an annual sporting and social must."
They need to take steps to make it that again.

 

[TheRevengeance]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

I saw a ticket from '78 the other day that was priced at $2.50. I don't know what the inflation is for the last 40 years, but I'm going to assume it isn't 2000%, which is probably what it costs to get the $35 Ticketmaster get-in price after they're done adding fees at the end. When you can get Bruins tickets in the same sections for 40-50 bucks on Stubhub (for games nobody cares about, but still) and see one of the best teams in pro hockey, who would buy a Beanpot ticket for any reason besides personal investment in the schools?

 

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

The crowd at the first night of the Beanpot was a huge disappointment. The TD Garden was less than half full for both games.
I am not sure what the official attendance was, but if there were more than 8,000 total, I would be very surprised.
The Beanpot used to be one of the toughest tickets in town. There were whole sections in the upper deck without a single soul.
Are the prices too high? Has the event lost its luster??
If there are going to be that many empty seats, I hope they are not perpetuating a fib that you can't get a ticket. You don't need to know someone anymore. You don't have to make a donation to your school. Just walk up to the box office before the game and put down your money.
If it is a TD Garden event -- and not a four schools event -- they should be marketing the empty seats at each of the four schools' games leading up to the event.
Snooks Kelley used to say the "Beanpot was an annual sporting and social must."
They need to take steps to make it that again.

1. Prices are too high. For the casual fan who might be willing to do a college hockey tournament instead of a Bruins game, I'm not sure there is that much in the way of cost savings any more.
2. Fan base is dwindling. I wish it wasn't the case, but I think it is across all sports, not just hockey, and not just college hockey. We live in a different world thanks to electronics and social media, etc. (I know, I sound like a grumpy old man). Too many other interests, actually dedicating 2.5 hours to doing one thing without it involving "other" things (distractions) is a tough sell. I think all sports are going to feel this pain in another 10 years.

It would never happen (well not for a long time), but imagine the atmosphere of a Beanpot at an arena like Agganis. All of a sudden, you have hard to get tickets again, much louder fans and bands.

 

[walrus655321]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

I don't think the ticket price is a problem. $45 for loge seats to TWO games? Hard to top that. Maybe they need something for the upper few rows of the balcony like they do for HECs, but the tickets they cut the prices for are the upper rows at the ends of the balcony and those fill up with students. Yeah, maybe the parking/concessions/etc turns some people off but it's still a better deal than a Bruins game.

I missed the first 4 minutes of NU's game for the first time in ages, I had to work and couldn't get out in time to make it there for the 5:10 start. I also left in the 3rd period of the late game. I agree with those who think holding it the day after Super Bowl Sunday hurts. There are plenty of weeks I'd have stayed later but after getting home around 11:30 on Sunday I wasn't going to be stuck there for OT. As much as I love the Monday tradition it does make for a rough start to the work week when you're out that late and still have four days to go. The first Monday is especially rough with TV timeouts for both games and the 5:10 start.