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Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

Although one game does not determine a season, tonight's BC/PU game will be a good indicator of whether there are two top teams in HE or three. BU and BC have begun to distance themselves from most in HE. PU has been the question mark. Are they as good as the team that has played several top teams very tough or are they as average as they have played in losing to some lower tier teams. The game is at PU, so a bit of an advantage to the Friars for the home ice. Should be a good game.
 
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hockeyfan111 said:
Although one game does not determine a season, tonight's BC/PU game will be a good indicator of whether there are two top teams in HE or three. BU and BC have begun to distance themselves from most in HE. PU has been the question mark. Are they as good as the team that has played several top teams very tough or are they as average as they have played in losing to some lower tier teams. The game is at PU, so a bit of an advantage to the Friars for the home ice. Should be a good game.
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When did Providence become a university? ;)
 
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Hux said:
We've already covered this, they are Friars (or maybe Friarettes) but not Lady Friars/Terriers/Huskies etc. ;)
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Nope. They are the PU Fryers and Coach Nutty.
 
Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

would appear that providence college is the team that is as tough as they were versus other top teams by knocking off bc 3-1.

hockeyfan111 said:
Although one game does not determine a season, tonight's BC/PU game will be a good indicator of whether there are two top teams in HE or three. BU and BC have begun to distance themselves from most in HE. PU has been the question mark. Are they as good as the team that has played several top teams very tough or are they as average as they have played in losing to some lower tier teams. The game is at PU, so a bit of an advantage to the Friars for the home ice. Should be a good game.
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

Well PC may have been the better team tonight- They were better coached- If BC continues to skate 2 lines and 4 D, they are going to drop right out of the top 10.BC was exhausted in the third period---- exhausted!!!!! The D were practically falling over the Blue line and struggled to keep the puck in the O zone- odd man rushes in the third -AGAIN A BREAKAWAY late in the game skater blew by BOTH D---- Only to have Schaus come up big ---But keep skating 4 D---
Skating two lines is just exhausting the forwards so when they have a powerplay, they are too tired to score- The power play is nonexistent ---- puck movement is slow- BC had a 5-3 for 4 minutes and could not score---
Kinger and Kennedy need to rethink their game plan including their powerplay--- Just sayin!
 
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westy1511 said:
Well PC may have been the better team tonight- They were better coached- If BC continues to skate 2 lines and 4 D, they are going to drop right out of the top 10.BC was exhausted in the third period---- exhausted!!!!! The D were practically falling over the Blue line and struggled to keep the puck in the O zone- odd man rushes in the third -AGAIN A BREAKAWAY late in the game skater blew by BOTH D---- Only to have Schaus come up big ---But keep skating 4 D---
Skating two lines is just exhausting the forwards so when they have a powerplay, they are too tired to score- The power play is nonexistent ---- puck movement is slow- BC had a 5-3 for 4 minutes and could not score---
Kinger and Kennedy need to rethink their game plan including their powerplay--- Just sayin!
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Your views are at odds with the game stats and PC game recap. They give the impression that BC was all over PC in the third, outshooting them 33-5 in the process. The PC game recap said that much of that pressure was during the extended 5x3 powerplay and during the final two minutes with Schaus pulled for an extra attacker. That doesn't sound like an exhausted team to me, just one that ran into a red-hot goalie (and/or took too many poor shots). It seems to me that it was PC that was the exhausted team in the third.

Sean Pickett
 
Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

BC was not all over PC in the third . They had a 5 on 3 for 4 minutes and could not score- and a 6-3 as well-----Puck movement was pathetic on their powerplay- POOR quality shots - not the quantity that mattered here- if they had 33 shots which I believe they did not- i believe the score board at the end of the game was 44---( and it was 24 shots in the second)it was 33 poor quality shots
PC skated 3 lines and 6 D as do most teams in D1 - You cannot win games going with 2 lines and 4 D- There are not many teams that do that! Bc was tired in the third- They were tired in the third against BU as well- simply put, they need to rethink their game plan in order to be competitive going forward-

There is no way they will compete with any team nationally in the top 4- Cornell, Merceyhurst, Wisconsin---- skating 2 lines and 4 D. Totally absurd!
 
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sticks21 said:
BC was not all over PC in the third . They had a 5 on 3 for 4 minutes and could not score- and a 6-3 as well-----Puck movement was pathetic on their powerplay- POOR quality shots - not the quantity that mattered here- if they had 33 shots which I believe they did not- i believe the score board at the end of the game was 44---( and it was 24 shots in the second)it was 33 poor quality shots
PC skated 3 lines and 6 D as do most teams in D1 - You cannot win games going with 2 lines and 4 D- There are not many teams that do that! Bc was tired in the third- They were tired in the third against BU as well- simply put, they need to rethink their game plan in order to be competitive going forward-

There is no way they will compete with any team nationally in the top 4- Cornell, Merceyhurst, Wisconsin---- skating 2 lines and 4 D. Totally absurd!
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I was at the game and while agree with you on skating 3 lines and 4 D--- PC goalie played well-
I am not sure about the shot count or where that 33 shot stat is coming from, I agree that BC looked tired in the third- at one point they could not keep the puck in at the point- Puck was lost which caused a break away by PC-
Kind of agree with sticks, in order to compete with the Cornells and the Wisconsins, BC better plan on getting more out of everyone and not hoping Stack can do it all---
 
Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

33-5 the shots in the third?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I... I'm not even *mad*, that's *AMAZING*.

No but I'm also pretty mad.

In other news, please don't feed the trolls. Thanks.
 
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My observations are from watching the game via the internet. The context portrayed was that BC was shorthanded alot in the first two periods (I think 5 times). This required alot of special teams efforts and juggling of lines. When not shorthanded, they did roll two lines in the first two periods. After a very quick goal in the 3rd period by PC to take the lead 2-1, as one could have predicted, PC was whistled for a variety of infractions that evened up the penalty calls. These penalties put BC back in the special teams situations and at one point, BC called timeout to rest its first power play line to get back out on a 5 - 3 effort. I thought it was the special teams situations that drove the extra ice time for the first two lines. Regardless, BC did have many, many good chances that Lacasse (PC goalie) stopped to preserve the victory. In the end (up until the empty netter), thought it was an outcome that could have gone either way. Finally, i think someone made an error regarding the BC Shots on Goal. There was no way there were 33 shots in that final period. Will be a good rematch next week and hopeful the BC coaches take some of the suggestions on this board regaring improved puck movement and shot selection.

sticks21 said:
BC was not all over PC in the third . They had a 5 on 3 for 4 minutes and could not score- and a 6-3 as well-----Puck movement was pathetic on their powerplay- POOR quality shots - not the quantity that mattered here- if they had 33 shots which I believe they did not- i believe the score board at the end of the game was 44---( and it was 24 shots in the second)it was 33 poor quality shots
PC skated 3 lines and 6 D as do most teams in D1 - You cannot win games going with 2 lines and 4 D- There are not many teams that do that! Bc was tired in the third- They were tired in the third against BU as well- simply put, they need to rethink their game plan in order to be competitive going forward-

There is no way they will compete with any team nationally in the top 4- Cornell, Merceyhurst, Wisconsin---- skating 2 lines and 4 D. Totally absurd!
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

meant to say:

when not shorthanded, they did roll three lines in the first two periods. sorry about that.

hockeyfan111 said:
My observations are from watching the game via the internet. The context portrayed was
that BC was shorthanded alot in the first two periods (I think 5 times). This required alot of special teams efforts and juggling of lines. When not shorthanded, they did roll two lines in the first two periods. After a very quick goal in the 3rd period by PC to take the lead 2-1, as one could have predicted, PC was whistled for a variety of infractions that evened up the penalty calls. These penalties put BC back in the special teams situations and at one point, BC called timeout to rest its first power play line to get back out on a 5 - 3 effort. I thought it was the special teams situations that drove the extra ice time for the first two lines. Regardless, BC did have many, many good chances that Lacasse (PC goalie) stopped to preserve the victory. In the end (up until the empty netter), thought it was an outcome that could have gone either way. Finally, i think someone made an error regarding the BC Shots on Goal. There was no way there were 33 shots in that final period. Will be a good rematch next week and hopeful the BC coaches take some of the suggestions on this board regaring improved puck movement and shot selection.
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vellnueve said:
BC always rolls three lines.
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Not in the loss to Providence last night--- BC skated 1 line and 2nd line all of the third period - and a great deal of the 2nd- they were skating 1 line 2nd line back to first line( and I 'm not talking about the PKs or PPs) they skated 4 defense as well- Same with the BU loss- they are tooooo tired in the 3rd-

They have changed too much since the 1st half of the season
Powerplay is ineffective since Christmas break --- They should have scored with a 5 on 3 for 4 minutes-- They are moving the puck to methodically and taking poor quality shots on the PP-

They are ranked 7 and slowly eeking their way OUT of the top 10---
They need to skate 3 lines and 6 D so players like Kelli Stack, blake Boldin , and Wasylk are not exhausted when they are needed to score-
 
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2010-2011: Schaus In Da Haus

I've seen a number of successful teams that didn't go much beyond 4 D. I don't remember Cornell playing more than 4 D for most of the championship game last year, and that was essentially two games back-to-back.

Trying to skate only 2 forward lines these days is a problem, that I'd agree with, but you see a lot of coaches do a lot of that, and then say that they got worn down by all of the special teams play. Easy answer -- use more skaters in the rotation, especially on the kill.
 
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Cornell played 5 D all year last year--- against Merceyhurst they played 5 D and in Final game the played 5 D--- They only played 4 d in the overtimes and it came back to bite them---- defensive miscue on the losing goal- they were dying tooo - I was at the game-
Anyway Cornell only had 5 D last year--- really----

BC has plenty of D and good ones at that--- same with their forwards---- why tire people out---
 
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sticks21 said:
Cornell played 5 D all year last year--- against Merceyhurst they played 5 D and in Final game the played 5 D--- They only played 4 d in the overtimes and it came back to bite them---- defensive miscue on the losing goal- they were dying tooo - I was at the game-
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The final goal resulted mainly from a mental error more than a physical one, and it was committed by someone who had been sitting in the penalty box for two minutes so I don't think fatigue was much of a factor for her. Fortino and Rougeau were on the ice for at least half of the championship game. Anyway, my point is that teams can get away with playing four strong D much more easily than just two forward lines.
 
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ARM said:
The final goal resulted mainly from a mental error more than a physical one, and it was committed by someone who had been sitting in the penalty box for two minutes so I don't think fatigue was much of a factor for her. Fortino and Rougeau were on the ice for at least half of the championship game. Anyway, my point is that teams can get away with playing four strong D much more easily than just two forward lines.
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Agree fully.
 
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