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Boston College Hockey 2010-2011, Part II - We Still Have Jerry York. Sorry, Everyone.

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Good point on Kevin Hayes, as a 1st rounder you would certainly expect more. Am wondering if he's still not 100% from that knee injury. One thing is for sure, we are really going to need him to step up next year with the likely losses of Kreider, JHayes & Atkinson along with JWhitney and Gibbons.
 
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KH is just fine. He is still just 18 and remember, he acellerated to get there early. He is far superior to Brown and putting Alber at F over him would be laughable. He played well in Beanpot and his composure with puck and playmaikng has picked up since the injury. If you remember, his brother also had his ups and downs freshman year, which is typical with big kids. Safe to say the older bro is doing just fine+, as will KH. S Whitnet for example is out on eevry PP with top line and has 1 more point all season, one more years worth of experience and didnt miss games due to an injury.

with all the losses next year and Muse going, Alber at F wont be the answer.
 
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KH is just fine. He is still just 18 and remember, he acellerated to get there early. He is far superior to Brown and putting Alber at F over him would be laughable. He played well in Beanpot and his composure with puck and playmaikng has picked up since the injury.

He did accelerate to get there early but he is a liability right now. -3 and whatever line he is on doesn't seem to play well lately. Kreider is also in the minus but he's scoring goals and is obviously much more dangerous. But I don't think for a second that a team that is giving up goals like it's going out of style would not benefit from having Hayes sit in favor of Brown or Alber, two guys that are bigger and tougher and are not defensive liabilities.
 
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I think it's completely possible that BC could have two somewhat down seasons in 11/12 & 12/13. It won't be until the 13/14 season where you have multiple talented forwards like we are used to seeing in KHayes, Arnold, Tiefenwerth, Vatrano, Silk, Straight, Cangelosi, Fitzgerald, etc. I guess there's always the possibility that SWhitney turns into the scoring machine that we all thought he would be next year and that KHayes has a 20+ goal season, but I think they're just losing too much to make it to the FF next year.
 
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I'm convinced if BC stays out of the box in these last three contests they would have had no problem winning all 3 without going into overtime. It throws off everything. The PKers get tired and the other lines have trouble getting into the flow of the game.

Plenty of time to get things fixed but ...

Kevin Hayes is a ghost out there. I feel bad for Carey having to get stuck on a line with him right now. On the other hand, Arnold is playing fantastic hockey at both ends. He had a big pass block on the 5x3 last night. York has quite a conundrum with Hayes. I'd probably take him out before anyone else and consider dressing Alber in at his spot. BUT, you just can't bench a 1st rounder for the long term like this. He has a long way to go IMO... Alber not playing well on defense, dress Macleod and put Alber in at offense. Now you have 7 defensemen in the lineup so when Samuelsson does something stupid and gets kicked out again you have 6 defensemen still. We might see this down the stretch but rather than Hayes sitting it would be Brown/T Atkinson.

PKers have shown vulnerability. I think this will get fixed. Credit to NU for getting pucks through the front line because that is where BC excels. Wisconsin with their fantastic defensemen last year couldn't get anything through but these NU guys did very well last night and the game before on this. It's a very subtle skill to have that pays huge dividends.

NU's style matching up nicely with BC's. It's all on tape now. BC is going to get pushed around until they push back as long as opposing personnel is capable of playing such a game.

NU just doesn't quit. Give them credit.

I tried to tell you guys that NU would be a force down the stretch. I wuz very impressed with their style and intensity way back at the beginning of the year and no doubt they've improved even since then. I also tried telling Hokypuck that MC was a legit top 15 team way back and he'd have no part of that conversation....actually it went on and on and on. ;) Lookat em now. Amazin. I'll pass on one more tidbit for the unweary....I tole 5hole already but watchout for UND ....they'z the most physical team I have ever watched in 30 some odd yearz....they play the game to not just beat you but instead to beat you up.
 
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I think it's completely possible that BC could have two somewhat down seasons in 11/12 & 12/13. It won't be until the 13/14 season where you have multiple talented forwards like we are used to seeing in KHayes, Arnold, Tiefenwerth, Vatrano, Silk, Straight, Cangelosi, Fitzgerald, etc. I guess there's always the possibility that SWhitney turns into the scoring machine that we all thought he would be next year and that KHayes has a 20+ goal season, but I think they're just losing too much to make it to the FF next year.

to say the least

losing MUse JH, CA, JW, BG and maybe CK coupled with BD might blow the following year, I would say frozen 4 is not even on the radar. Similar to the year BU won it, could be a rebuilding year for BC. With the talent up front you mention, 2013 and on should be lights out again.
 
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I tried to tell you guys that NU would be a force down the stretch. I wuz very impressed with their style and intensity way back at the beginning of the year and no doubt they've improved even since then. I also tried telling Hokypuck that MC was a legit top 15 team way back and he'd have no part of that conversation....actually it went on and on and on. ;) Lookat em now. Amazin. I'll pass on one more tidbit for the unweary....I tole 5hole already but watchout for UND ....they'z the most physical team I have ever watched in 30 some odd yearz....they play the game to not just beat you but instead to beat you up.

You were right about MC. Never felt they were not a top team, so long as JC and SD were playing. With SD out 3/4 weeks and IT WILL TAKE time to get back after a serious knee injury, it might all be for naught. lets hope not... They are the feel good story of the year
 
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He did accelerate to get there early but he is a liability right now. -3 and whatever line he is on doesn't seem to play well lately. Kreider is also in the minus but he's scoring goals and is obviously much more dangerous. But I don't think for a second that a team that is giving up goals like it's going out of style would not benefit from having Hayes sit in favor of Brown or Alber, two guys that are bigger and tougher and are not defensive liabilities.

1. Brown played last night. Tommy Atkinson would have to take his spot.

2. Alber, "not a defensive liability?" Have you seen him play for the last month? Last night, he literally passed it to a NU player on the first goal.
 
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they will go to 4 when it counts, Alber and Samuelson can basicaly watch when it counts.

Just curious, what will York do when it counts? Anyway, obviously Dumoulin, Cross and Wey are the big three if you will. Nobody should take anything you say about Samuelsson/Alber seriously. That being said, Samuelsson hasn't been as good as those three guys. I still think Alber will regain his form at some point here. And if "when it counts" means an NCAA tourney game with under 10 to go, then ya, most college teams will shorten the bench.

Are you seriously questioning the effectiveness of the coaching staff?

When they take the 2 points tonight, that will be 2-0-1 against a team that has been playing well as of late. With a win, BC's week brings home a beanpot championship and 3 of 4 league points. Pretty strong week if you ask me.

Kenny, they are human beings. They can be questioned. For starters, I didn't think Milner should have started last night and I don't like playing five forwards on the PP late in a close game. Now, considering the poor performance last night, I do expect them to rebound tonight with a solid game, but let's not chalk it up as a win just yet.

I thought last night would be 7-1 BC but I think NU has finally put it all together. BC's not the only team that can watch tape etc. and improve.

Giving up 7 is NU putting it all together? Or you just mean offensively?

BC took that 3-1 lead early and looked like it kinda fell asleep for a while. Where is that killer instinct?? That time out by Northeastern was huge; it stopped the bleeding

Agree on the killer instinct, but it was at least nice seeing BC come back four different times last night and an EAG...I feel like I've seen that too many times the other way.

Kevin Hayes is a ghost out there. I feel bad for Carey having to get stuck on a line with him right now. On the other hand, Arnold is playing fantastic hockey at both ends. He had a big pass block on the 5x3 last night. York has quite a conundrum with Hayes. I'd probably take him out before anyone else and consider dressing Alber in at his spot. BUT, you just can't bench a 1st rounder for the long term like this. He has a long way to go IMO... Alber not playing well on defense, dress Macleod and put Alber in at offense. Now you have 7 defensemen in the lineup so when Samuelsson does something stupid and gets kicked out again you have 6 defensemen still. We might see this down the stretch but rather than Hayes sitting it would be Brown/T Atkinson.

Why not just put Arnold on that line with Carey and S. Whitney? Or maybe move Arnold/Carey up with Gibbons and Atkinson and drop J. Whitney down. Yes, K. Hayes has a long way to go--stick him on the 4th line right now. I have to think Alber will regain his form at some point here. Samuelsson is hot and cold, but that penalty was really dumb. Now, I also wouldn't mind dressing MacLeod and playing him on D while putting Alber and K. Hayes on a 4th line with Almeida. There are certainly some options. I don't think I would bench K. Hayes entirely though. He didn't look out of place when he got a chance to play with Jimmy and Kreider earlier in the year.

NU's style matching up nicely with BC's. It's all on tape now. BC is going to get pushed around until they push back as long as opposing personnel is capable of playing such a game.

Hmm when I think of who BC lost last year, Lombardi was the most physical. I think this team can play with the physical edge necessary to win. Might not be doing it right now, but I'm not too concerned by that.

with all the losses next year and Muse going, Alber at F wont be the answer.

What exactly was the question? Alber is not THE answer to anything, but there's definitely a possibility he could move to forward next year.

But I don't think for a second that a team that is giving up goals like it's going out of style would not benefit from having Hayes sit in favor of Brown or Alber, two guys that are bigger and tougher and are not defensive liabilities.

Well, Hayes is bigger than both, but I certainly understand the grit aspect needed.

With SD out 3/4 weeks and IT WILL TAKE time to get back after a serious knee injury, it might all be for naught. lets hope not... They are the feel good story of the year

IMO, "all for naught" would be MC coming up short for home ice, reaching the Garden, making the NCAA tourney. Even without Da Costa, I'd say they're a lock for home ice and NCAAs and I also think they'll be at the Garden.
 
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I think it's completely possible that BC could have two somewhat down seasons in 11/12 & 12/13. It won't be until the 13/14 season where you have multiple talented forwards like we are used to seeing in KHayes, Arnold, Tiefenwerth, Vatrano, Silk, Straight, Cangelosi, Fitzgerald, etc. I guess there's always the possibility that SWhitney turns into the scoring machine that we all thought he would be next year and that KHayes has a 20+ goal season, but I think they're just losing too much to make it to the FF next year.

i think we will be fine down the road, a down year for us was 18-14 in 2009 and we were within a game of making the NCAA's (blowing the friday night game at NU the last weekend of the regular season):(................i'm concentrating on this year still;) ....and hoping we can hold NU to a field goal and a safety tonight:eek::confused:
 
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J.D. - Offensively. Our entire D is freshman so I only expect so much even if we are top 20 in defense.
 
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Huh? :eek: They give up 13 goals in 2 games to offensive powerhouse Northeastern, and you're concerned? All this team does is WIN baby! Whadsa madda wit you? ;) :D

i know it, NU plays tough but they were offensively challenged before monday..................67 goals in 27 games.:eek: .....on NHL network right now at 4 is the 2010 Frozen Four film. maybe Jerry has them watching that to show them how to "fix it";).....................
 
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1. Brown played last night. Tommy Atkinson would have to take his spot.

I know, I was there. I'm saying if Hayes were to sit (which isn't happening anyway), a nice way to do things would be to Alber up at forward, Macleod in at D, and probably go with Brown over Atkinson again for the other spot to keep the size on the lineup solid.

2. Alber, "not a defensive liability?" Have you seen him play for the last month? Last night, he literally passed it to a NU player on the first goal.

Of course I've seen him play. Are you new here? I'm saying that as an offensive defenseman he'd be nice to put at forward because he has offensive ability, has size, and surely would be a great defensive forward since he knows his end of the ice as well.
 
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I know, I was there. I'm saying if Hayes were to sit (which isn't happening anyway), a nice way to do things would be to Alber up at forward, Macleod in at D, and probably go with Brown over Atkinson again for the other spot to keep the size on the lineup solid.



Of course I've seen him play. Are you new here? I'm saying that as an offensive defenseman he'd be nice to put at forward because he has offensive ability, has size, and surely would be a great defensive forward since he knows his end of the ice as well.

Am I new here? Yeah, brand new I just joined yesterday. As of right now the way they are playing, the only one who truly deserved to be benched is Patch Alber. Sure he was great at the beginning of the year up until he got hurt. But since he got back something has changed. He is handling the puck like he is trying move a bowling ball out there.

No need to get all ****y.
 
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You figure, better defense by both teams tonight in low scoring game.
 
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You figure, better defense by both teams tonight in low scoring game.

Call me crazy, but I feel better about this team even after a loss than I did after last night.

They played a disciplined game, stayed out of the box, and played better team defense. We know this team can and will score. Just one of those nights.

Some people might overreact and look at the standings and now see BC in 3rd place, but really, BC is in about the same position they were last season. Not to mention BC gets UMass next weekend whereas UNH gets Northeastern and Merrimack has to go to Alfond for two. No worries on my part at the moment.
 
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Call me crazy, but I feel better about this team even after a loss than I did after last night.

They played a disciplined game, stayed out of the box, and played better team defense. We know this team can and will score. Just one of those nights.

Some people might overreact and look at the standings and now see BC in 3rd place, but really, BC is in about the same position they were last season. Not to mention BC gets UMass next weekend whereas UNH gets Northeastern and Merrimack has to go to Alfond for two. No worries on my part at the moment.

Tonight makes me wonder if the penalties are just a necessary evil of having the offense we have.

It could be just a coincidence that we struggled to score tonight and were "disciplined", but it could also be because our offensive aggressiveness causes a lot of penalties and goals.
 
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This weekend will be good for the Eagles in the long run. Need a weekend like this to get the team ready and in the right state of mind for the NCAA's.
 
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This weekend will be good for the Eagles in the long run. Need a weekend like this to get the team ready and in the right state of mind for the NCAA's.

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This weekend will be good for the Eagles in the long run. Need a weekend like this to get the team ready and in the right state of mind for the NCAA's.

are you new here?!?
 
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