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Boston College Hockey 2009-2010

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BC/HE said:
The purpose of a review would be solely for determining whether the net was dislodged intentionally or not because if it was then a goal would be awarded. It was obviously off before the puck went in. The reluctance to even review puzzles because if it was not obvious then the referree was in a good position to not be overruled. A simple review would be required under the rules because it involves a goal call. That must be reviewed in the championships but apparently it does not apply in regular season.
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intent isn't reviewable though but okay!
 
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Hokydad said:
Samuelson for a shut down guy(zero O ability) sure looked like a turnstile on that one play. He is over rated
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Overrated? As what, an NHL prospect? Also, he does have some offensive ability. He's not gonna lead the rush up the ice, but he's good at making plays at the blue line and finding open guys in the slot.

BCWH Superfan joe said:
Uh, no, they mean entirely different things. Sorry. There's a difference between a dumb penalty and a penalty that's cheap/offensive that comes on a bad hit.

Given the situation - trailing in a rivalry game, partly due to the fact that your team had already taken a number of dumb penalties - and how clearly it matched the rulebook definition of boarding, it was just not a good thing to see. He knew it, too - as soon as he made the hit, he sort of slumped over, knowing a penalty was coming.

Nobody's perfect and the point here isn't to harp on the guy for taking the penalty. The point is that people who are saying it wasn't a penalty, or wasn't an obvious penalty, are looking through serious homer glasses (or in hokydad's case, mancrush glasses).
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
Gotcha. Our seats were bad and we couldn't really see. :shrug: I'll defer to your call there.

Even worse - it was when Lyles had broken his stick and didn't have a stick in his hands at all.
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
Joe already touched on this, but no, they aren't the same thing. I stand by what I said - it was one of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen.
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jdevoejr said:
I concur.
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I'm certainly not seeing eye to eye with you guys on this one and I sit in section N. What I will say is he made the right decision in going after the puck carrier. He didn't have a stick and since the puck carrier was against the boards, he was in the best position to try and tie him up. He should have went in softer to avoid being called for such a "penalty".

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure York called the ref over for an explanation of that one.
 
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J.D. said:
Overrated? As what, an NHL prospect? Also, he does have some offensive ability. He's not gonna lead the rush up the ice, but he's good at making plays at the blue line and finding open guys in the slot.









I'm certainly not seeing eye to eye with you guys on this one and I sit in section N. What I will say is he made the right decision in going after the puck carrier. He didn't have a stick and since the puck carrier was against the boards, he was in the best position to try and tie him up. He should have went in softer to avoid being called for such a "penalty".

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure York called the ref over for an explanation of that one.
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The "our seats were bad" is referring to a no-goal call at the Lowell game. Our seats were perfect to see the Lyles hit, and yeah, the guy was a good distance off the boards and he got knocked into them. You pretty much never see that NOT called a penalty. I suppose it's possible that the BU guy flopped, but it sure seemed like he was forced into the boards to me.

This game was on TV - someone step up and get the video on here.
 
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J.D. said:
Overrated? As what, an NHL prospect? Also, he does have some offensive ability. He's not gonna lead the rush up the ice, but he's good at making plays at the blue line and finding open guys in the slot.


He had zero goals in 54 games last year in UHSL, was the worst D by a good margin at World camp and has 1 goal in 22 games at BC.

He was picked in draft as a shut down, project out type Dman. If his speed and skating keeps improving, he has a shot of being that. Any points are simply a bonus.
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Seems like Hokydad is upset that his boy Lyles didn't do so well this weekend. Rather than focus on that, diversion tactics are being used to take shots at Samuelsson and arguing about irrelevant garbage. Nice job, Hokydad!
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Seems like Hokydad is upset that his boy Lyles didn't do so well this weekend. Rather than focus on that, diversion tactics are being used to take shots at Samuelsson and arguing about irrelevant garbage. Nice job, Hokydad!
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Nothing what so ever to do with it, the two have nothing to do with each other. Lyles did just as good as Samuelson, didnt see him getting turned inside out 1/1. Even York mentioned after game that kids can't play the puck at this level.
This is not PF Changs propoganda website so save us the bs.
 
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Hokydad said:
He had zero goals in 54 games last year in UHSL, was the worst D by a good margin at World camp and has 1 goal in 22 games at BC.

He was picked in draft as a shut down, project out type Dman. If his speed and skating keeps improving, he has a shot of being that. Any points are simply a bonus.
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A 1-7-8 line as a freshman dman does not indicate he has zero offensive ability, sorry. He's on pace for something like 2-12-14 and is currently a +3. What exactly are you expecting in his first year?
 
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Thanks for the link. Sounds like he'll basically replace the role we expected Kenny Ryan to play. Wasn't he also from Michigan?

Not sure if I agree that BC wants their kids to come straight from school without juniors, as the article contends. A lot of time they want kids to head to the USHL to get some seasoning.
 
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J.D. said:
A 1-7-8 line as a freshman dman does not indicate he has zero offensive ability, sorry. He's on pace for something like 2-12-14 and is currently a +3. What exactly are you expecting in his first year?
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As I said, that is a bonus. No one looks at him as an offensive dman, he is pegged a shutdown guy. That is what they have him projected at. I have watched him for a long time and am comfortable in my view.

zero o ability might hvae been a little extreme on my part
 
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Hokydad said:
zero o ability might hvae been a little extreme on my part
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This is all I was getting at. The scary thing, which doesn't usually lead to winning games, is that Dumoulin is far and away the most reliable dman on the team as a freshman.
 
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J.D. said:
This is all I was getting at. The scary thing, which doesn't usually lead to winning games, is that Dumoulin is far and away the most reliable dman on the team as a freshman.
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It is good to not be noticed. I will take Shea as steady Eddie right now over him though

Very good adjustment as a true freshmen though, for sure
 
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Hokydad said:
Nothing what so ever to do with it, the two have nothing to do with each other. Lyles did just as good as Samuelson, didnt see him getting turned inside out 1/1. Even York mentioned after game that kids can't play the puck at this level.
This is not PF Changs propoganda website so save us the bs.
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Samuelson also played a ton of ice ton over the 2 games, whereas lyles played very little. fatigue might have had something to do with it; comparing the two in an even setting is laughable.
 
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SteveF said:
Samuelson also played a ton of ice ton over the 2 games, whereas lyles played very little. fatigue might have had something to do with it; comparing the two in an even setting is laughable.
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Not trying to, 2 games where the d sucked, so the ones who got a ton of ice were the reason, not the ones who played very little. Top 4 always get a ton, didnt seem to bother Dumoulin, Shea etc.

Have watched for several years and feel very avg, ton of politics and hype. Worst d at WJC camp and has 1 goal in 2 years. Just my blunt opinion, if his name was tom smith, would never have even remotely been considered for the camp.
 
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