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Boston College Hockey 2009-2010

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Lyles did just as good as Samuelson, didnt see him getting turned inside out 1/1.

Umm this is not true.

Malcolm Lyles (2-Hooking) 14:24

This was in the 3rd period against Lowell where he was beat one on one and was forced to take a penalty.

Look, I like a lot of what Lyles can do. There are just other things he needs work on. He's a tad too aggressive right now.
 
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Lyles got absolutely undressed in the 1st or 3rd period right in front of me vs. BU on Friday night. I have no idea how BU didn't score, he just went right past Lyles like he wasn't there to create an odd man situation in the mid to low slot.
 
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Umm this is not true.

Malcolm Lyles (2-Hooking) 14:24

This was in the 3rd period against Lowell where he was beat one on one and was forced to take a penalty.

Look, I like a lot of what Lyles can do. There are just other things he needs work on. He's a tad too aggressive right now.

No kidding...... He is not a top 4 and was never brought in to be. An insurance policy in case of times like this. He is not an NHL draft pick brought in to be a game changer. The NHL game changers are the ones who put up 1 huge goal vs Lowell and are the reason they lost, not a 7th or 8th dman..
 
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a week ago you were saying that lyles doesn't play because he doesn't have an advisor telling Jerry what to do. now he's an insurance policy. weird.
 
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Who cares? He's jacked. Right hokydad? That's all that matters, no?

One thing he wasnt vs Lowell was a minus 2 like Samuelson was.... A minus 2, got turned like a cone vs Worthingtion when they scored the game winner.

What matters is winning games and getting beat one on one in a tied game and being a minus 2, AKA on the ice for the only two goals they scored(minues the empty netter) is what matters.

I would dare say that is a laughable game.

I wouldnt worry about walk on 7/8 d, I would worry about the stars getting toasted. Who was even that game.
 
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a week ago you were saying that lyles doesn't play because he doesn't have an advisor telling Jerry what to do. now he's an insurance policy. weird.

Never said that. Said that he probably does not get a fair shot because he is not a draft pick type with advisors etc calling and preaching his cause.

He is not a top 6 D there but is capable of playing the role he does.
Sneep
Cross
Wey
Dumoulin
Shea
Samuelson are
 
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Oh wait, never mind, you said he's as good as "Way," whoever that is. you're probably right.
 
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I thought you said Lyles was as good as Wey and Samuelsson?


In my opinion he is but I dont coach so it does not matter. The point is the coaches have their top 6 and he is not one of them. That is where I get the top 6 from. Wey will be be a very good BC player over the next 3/4 years. He is a very good player.
 
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The NHL game changers are the ones who put up 1 huge goal vs Lowell and are the reason they lost, not a 7th or 8th dman..

Curious if you wanna name names here? Even though they only scored one goal, they played a good road game and came on strong in the 3rd period.

One thing he wasnt vs Lowell was a minus 2 like Samuelson was.... A minus 2, got turned like a cone vs Worthingtion when they scored the game winner.

What matters is winning games and getting beat one on one in a tied game and being a minus 2, AKA on the ice for the only two goals they scored(minues the empty netter) is what matters.

I would dare say that is a laughable game.

I wouldnt worry about walk on 7/8 d, I would worry about the stars getting toasted. Who was even that game.

I don't really know where we're going with this. Yes, Samuelsson got beat on that play. Lyles also took a HUGE penalty after that that took away two minutes of attack time for BC. I have no problem saying when a guy screwed up. Hell, Sneep was absolutely brutal all weekend long and Shea coughed up the puck for Lowell's first goal...

It's your assertions that Jerry listens to outside sources when determining who should play that irks me. I don't think anyone meant for this to be a dump on Lyles session. I would agree, that is completely unfair given his inexperience and what his role was supposed to be. If anything, it falls on the coaches for not having more reliable alternatives. But then again, this is college hockey and you can only give out so many scholarships.
 
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Curious if you wanna name names here? Even though they only scored one goal, they played a good road game and came on strong in the 3rd period.



I don't really know where we're going with this. Yes, Samuelsson got beat on that play. Lyles also took a HUGE penalty after that that took away two minutes of attack time for BC. I have no problem saying when a guy screwed up. Hell, Sneep was absolutely brutal all weekend long and Shea coughed up the puck for Lowell's first goal...

It's your assertions that Jerry listens to outside sources when determining who should play that irks me. I don't think anyone meant for this to be a dump on Lyles session. I would agree, that is completely unfair given his inexperience and what his role was supposed to be. If anything, it falls on the coaches for not having more reliable alternatives. But then again, this is college hockey and you can only give out so many scholarships.

Fair enough...

My point about the advisors was simple.

We have 6 scholorship Dmen, several who are NHL draft picks. then we have a recruited walk on with his hat in hand. Not an even playing field, they always give benfit of coubt to scholorship/drafted players.

There is no question that the advisors talk to the coaches, always dropping hints about major junior etc.
I have heard many times where D 1 coaches say family advisors have ruined relationships between coaches and teams. Petrecki last year is a perfect example.

BC is no different
 
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I don't really know where we're going with this. Yes, Samuelsson got beat on that play. Lyles also took a HUGE penalty after that that took away two minutes of attack time for BC. I have no problem saying when a guy screwed up. Hell, Sneep was absolutely brutal all weekend long and Shea coughed up the puck for Lowell's first goal... QUOTE

And Samuelson took a HUGE penalty in the third that took away two minutes of attack time in the third as well. Then proceeded to get beat and gave up the game winner.

I would hate to see this thread if Lyles was minus 2, had a penalty in 3rd and was toasted one on one for the game winner...
 
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Oh boy, looks like another Hokydad infestation. I feel really bad for Hokyson/Hokydaughter.

Good luck.
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We have 6 scholorship Dmen, several who are NHL draft picks. then we have a recruited walk on with his hat in hand. Not an even playing field, they always give benfit of coubt to scholorship/drafted players.
While I agree that it has to be in the coaches minds that they want to see the guys they committed a scholarship to succeed, it doesn't always work that way. We've seen highly recruited scholarship players leave BC because things didn't work out. We've also seen other guys sit in the stands and wait their turn. In this situation, where the alternatives are a sophomore walk on and a freshman walk on, it's in their best interest to let the scholarship players play. We're talking about two sophomores and three freshmen back there. I also think that if one was struggling so mightily, York wouldn't hesitate if their was a better option.

Petrecki last year is a perfect example.

BC is no different

You say this as if it's common knowledge. Please enlighten us on what happened. I'm not saying these people don't call coaches, etc. I'm saying York does what's best for his hockey team.

And Samuelson took a HUGE penalty in the third that took away two minutes of attack time in the third as well. Then proceeded to get beat and gave up the game winner.

I would hate to see this thread if Lyles was minus 2, had a penalty in 3rd and was toasted one on one for the game winner...

OK, I'm not sure you get where I'm coming from. I'm not attacking Lyles. I already said Samuelsson got beat on that play. Don't try to equate a penalty two minutes into the third (that one looked clean to me as well) to Lyles taking a bad penalty with BC down 2-1 with five minutes to go.
 
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OK, I'm not sure you get where I'm coming from. I'm not attacking Lyles. I already said Samuelsson got beat on that play. Don't try to equate a penalty two minutes into the third (that one looked clean to me as well) to Lyles taking a bad penalty with BC down 2-1 with five minutes to go.[/QUOTE]

I get what your saying, my point is Samuelson took a penalty in the third and then proceeded to go out and get toasted one in one and give up the game winner in the third. He was also a minus 2.

Timing was bad but they killed it off, just like they had to kill off Samuelsons
 
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You say this as if it's common knowledge. Please enlighten us on what happened. I'm not saying these people don't call coaches, etc. I'm saying York does what's best for his hockey team..
I will bet you any amout of money you want that some of these players with advisors talk with BC coaches 5-10 times a season. the old, just checking in to see how the development is coming along, before the hints get dropped.

It is not just BC but college hockey

I do though agree that York does what is best and I doubt he gets manipulated. he is clearly above that
 
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Never said that. Said that he probably does not get a fair shot because he is not a draft pick type with advisors etc calling and preaching his cause.

He is not a top 6 D there but is capable of playing the role he does.

You're talking from both sides or your arse here and don't seem to see it right in the same post.

Keep in mind, in the preseason you said Lyles would be better than Wey and would surprise everyone and get more playing time as a result of being a better player. That clearly was wrong as he is far inferior to Wey (and Wey has just ok for BC this year) and everyone watching BC this year knows this.

Here, you say he isn't getting a shot because he is not a draft pick and yet you admit he's not one of our top 6 DMen. How in the heck can you not connect the dots and see your own idiocy?

Bottom line, you are wrong concerning the Lyles/BC/Samuelsson stuff. Samuelsson may or may not have had a bad game at Tsongas but he is 5,000x better than Lyles from what I've seen this year. I could care less about what anyone did in the USHL. Maybe you should get back to the Midwest and find another jacked boy to obsess over.
 
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