Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
I think it's up for debate how good it is for BC.
I think it's up for debate how good it is for BC.
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Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Don’t you get mad when terriors make cuts??
No, no, no. It was the hypocrisy of one particular BU poster (doesn't post a lot anymore, prefers twitter). Guy loves criticizing BC for this but makes all sorts of excuses when BU does it).
I certainly don't love cutting players but it happens at every level of sports.
defkit
Well-known member
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
Honest question, and I only post it on this thread versus others due to timing - What are the differences between making cuts and the scholarship fiasco of the Cedorchuk/Milbury transition? Is it that the "cuts" are likely to players that hadn't been promised a scholarship? Has there been a change over the years in how scholarships are handed out in terms of number of years, full vs. partial, etc.? BU has certainly said goodbye to some players who were likely to not get playing time anyway (at least a handful from the last couple years of Parker recruiting bumped by the higher caliber recruits that followed Quinn's arrival). My thought is that most of those players weren't getting scholarships, or at least not full ones, but I really don't know.
Honest question, and I only post it on this thread versus others due to timing - What are the differences between making cuts and the scholarship fiasco of the Cedorchuk/Milbury transition? Is it that the "cuts" are likely to players that hadn't been promised a scholarship? Has there been a change over the years in how scholarships are handed out in terms of number of years, full vs. partial, etc.? BU has certainly said goodbye to some players who were likely to not get playing time anyway (at least a handful from the last couple years of Parker recruiting bumped by the higher caliber recruits that followed Quinn's arrival). My thought is that most of those players weren't getting scholarships, or at least not full ones, but I really don't know.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BC RW Casey Carreau, coming off a shoulder injury, has been asked to go back to junior hockey. ‘98 Thayer alum had 1-4-5 in 33 GP as a freshman.</p>— Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/1003693589862453250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BC RW Casey Carreau, coming off a shoulder injury, has been asked to go back to junior hockey. ‘98 Thayer alum had 1-4-5 in 33 GP as a freshman.</p>— Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/1003693589862453250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
BC still is working out of the recruiting situation caused by so much talent leaving after the 2016 season. With no forwards leaving and four coming in this year, something had to give. BC has struggled to score. Jeff Cox reported earlier that Casey Carreau had been asked to return to Junior Hockey for a year. If you look at BC's stats from last year all you have to do is start at the bottom and work up. That will tell you which players have to be most concerned about being cut. Kevin Lohan is the only defenseman lost, Ben Finkelstein replaces him. With the scholarship crunch, does BC have enough money to bring in Adam Samuelsson this year without cutting a defenseman? The numbers crunch at Forward for the following season is real too. Say you lose Brown/Dudek/Wahlstrom. There are 4 or 5 forwards committed and that's without Carreau returning. This round of cuts won't resolve BC's roster issue.
BC still is working out of the recruiting situation caused by so much talent leaving after the 2016 season. With no forwards leaving and four coming in this year, something had to give. BC has struggled to score. Jeff Cox reported earlier that Casey Carreau had been asked to return to Junior Hockey for a year. If you look at BC's stats from last year all you have to do is start at the bottom and work up. That will tell you which players have to be most concerned about being cut. Kevin Lohan is the only defenseman lost, Ben Finkelstein replaces him. With the scholarship crunch, does BC have enough money to bring in Adam Samuelsson this year without cutting a defenseman? The numbers crunch at Forward for the following season is real too. Say you lose Brown/Dudek/Wahlstrom. There are 4 or 5 forwards committed and that's without Carreau returning. This round of cuts won't resolve BC's roster issue.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
The differences? First case was created by one Coach and handed to another Coach to clean up. Second case is created by situations beyond the Coach's control. I don't think what the Players had been offered is part of the issue regarding cuts. Just like at BU, players that are not expected to get much playing time are likely to be the ones affected.
The differences? First case was created by one Coach and handed to another Coach to clean up. Second case is created by situations beyond the Coach's control. I don't think what the Players had been offered is part of the issue regarding cuts. Just like at BU, players that are not expected to get much playing time are likely to be the ones affected.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
Don't know, there's some who believe Jerry wants to keep going for at least a few more years and that retirement isn't imminent. That said, I don't see why Brown would turn down an opportunity to be the HC at BC because he was an NHL assistant.
Don't know, there's some who believe Jerry wants to keep going for at least a few more years and that retirement isn't imminent. That said, I don't see why Brown would turn down an opportunity to be the HC at BC because he was an NHL assistant.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
FiveHole12
Registered User
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
His MC teams were also capable of playing some very good shut-down D. That's been missing at BC for some years now.
Whoever Jerry chooses... welcome aboard.
Dennehy did a great job at MC, IMO... would love to see what type of talent he would bring in at BC.
His MC teams were also capable of playing some very good shut-down D. That's been missing at BC for some years now.
Whoever Jerry chooses... welcome aboard.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
I honestly don't think this move gives us any insight whatsoever into York's successor. I believe York has 3 seasons left in him at least. This very well could be a final resume builder for Brown to come back to BC to replace York. That personally is my feeling on this.
Bigger question is what to do with the vacant position. Promote McInnis? Fill with someone else? Dennehy seems settled with Wheeling so I'm under the impression he would not become part of this staff right now. Although if he ultimately wants to replace York this would be a perfect chance for him to get on the staff and really bump himself in that future process. That would be a hell of a move but I'm told no. Maybe you promote McInnis and bring in someone young from the golden era that doesn't have a ton of coaching experience as the unpaid volunteer assistant so they can get their feet wet. Gionta seems retired at this point. Bobby Allen is around - great, smart guy. Scott Clemmensen? Ben Eaves always has his name floated around by the message board knuckleheads.
Should be interesting. My impression is that Brown was the guy to replace York and I read this as a final piece to his resume to come back and take over. Getting tabbed by Quinn is another feather in his cap just in and of itself. Regardless, the staff seemed somewhat stale and I was hoping for a shake up so this is now happening. Could be good. Could be bad. Let's see what happens.
Trade Giuliano for Ayers?
I honestly don't think this move gives us any insight whatsoever into York's successor. I believe York has 3 seasons left in him at least. This very well could be a final resume builder for Brown to come back to BC to replace York. That personally is my feeling on this.
Bigger question is what to do with the vacant position. Promote McInnis? Fill with someone else? Dennehy seems settled with Wheeling so I'm under the impression he would not become part of this staff right now. Although if he ultimately wants to replace York this would be a perfect chance for him to get on the staff and really bump himself in that future process. That would be a hell of a move but I'm told no. Maybe you promote McInnis and bring in someone young from the golden era that doesn't have a ton of coaching experience as the unpaid volunteer assistant so they can get their feet wet. Gionta seems retired at this point. Bobby Allen is around - great, smart guy. Scott Clemmensen? Ben Eaves always has his name floated around by the message board knuckleheads.
Should be interesting. My impression is that Brown was the guy to replace York and I read this as a final piece to his resume to come back and take over. Getting tabbed by Quinn is another feather in his cap just in and of itself. Regardless, the staff seemed somewhat stale and I was hoping for a shake up so this is now happening. Could be good. Could be bad. Let's see what happens.
Trade Giuliano for Ayers?
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
Ben Eaves is actually on Blasi's staff at Miami but as "Director of Human Performance and Wellness".
If York wants someone to work with dmen, Brendan Buckley would be an option. Currently at UConn. The name I've seen that intrigues me is JD Forrest. Experience at the national development team and currently an assistant in the AHL. Don't think he's the lead assistant but I'm not sure what he would be making in his current role vs. coming to BC.
Ben Eaves is actually on Blasi's staff at Miami but as "Director of Human Performance and Wellness".
If York wants someone to work with dmen, Brendan Buckley would be an option. Currently at UConn. The name I've seen that intrigues me is JD Forrest. Experience at the national development team and currently an assistant in the AHL. Don't think he's the lead assistant but I'm not sure what he would be making in his current role vs. coming to BC.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread
Buckley was crazy underrated in my opinion back in the day. A ton of talent on D came in with him or after him but... Buckley and Scuderi really locked down their own end and never got the credit the should have (Scuderi did get it in the pros though). Buckley was a character on campus for sure; reminds me a bit of Lyndon Byers.
Buckley was crazy underrated in my opinion back in the day. A ton of talent on D came in with him or after him but... Buckley and Scuderi really locked down their own end and never got the credit the should have (Scuderi did get it in the pros though). Buckley was a character on campus for sure; reminds me a bit of Lyndon Byers.