FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Me thinks you are spot on.
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Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
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BCeagle
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
I thought I heard the PA announcer say Carey or did they change that to Mullane?
I thought I heard the PA announcer say Carey or did they change that to Mullane?
Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
At least you guys didn't lose in OT like we did the first time we played them. And if it matters, Merrimack was without Toomey (who scored both goals) when we played them Friday night.
At least you guys didn't lose in OT like we did the first time we played them. And if it matters, Merrimack was without Toomey (who scored both goals) when we played them Friday night.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Is it ideal? No. But I don't think it's a big deal. If they can play, they can play.
As for today and recent games:
Should have been a win and that's the problem with this team right now. I've been saying this for a while now...this team is in every game but doesn't make winning plays/finish the job. Some similarities to 2008-2009 developing.
They put themselves into position for good scoring opportunities but don't get enough pucks to the net. PP looked pretty good but didn't cash in. Was at Agganis the other night...MCs penalty kill looks terrible.
Wey made one or two nice breakups today, but he also had more than a couple blunders. They need him to round into shape going forward.
Thought we'd see Milner but Billett was very good. Thought he may have been able to stop the tying goal, but not surprised at all they tied it. And then we nearly lose in OT.
Get used to these 2-2 and 3-2 battles down the stretch because I don't see it changing anytime soon. To be fair, this is kinda what I expected this year anyway.
Is it ideal? No. But I don't think it's a big deal. If they can play, they can play.
As for today and recent games:
Should have been a win and that's the problem with this team right now. I've been saying this for a while now...this team is in every game but doesn't make winning plays/finish the job. Some similarities to 2008-2009 developing.
They put themselves into position for good scoring opportunities but don't get enough pucks to the net. PP looked pretty good but didn't cash in. Was at Agganis the other night...MCs penalty kill looks terrible.
Wey made one or two nice breakups today, but he also had more than a couple blunders. They need him to round into shape going forward.
Thought we'd see Milner but Billett was very good. Thought he may have been able to stop the tying goal, but not surprised at all they tied it. And then we nearly lose in OT.
Get used to these 2-2 and 3-2 battles down the stretch because I don't see it changing anytime soon. To be fair, this is kinda what I expected this year anyway.
sterlippo1
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
we all do and I still have confidence that Jerry will fix what ails us. The thing that is striking to me , and this is my 6th year as a season ticket holder, is that this team seems to be the slowest one of the 6 i've watched closely. Any of you think that's an accurate statement ?
we all do and I still have confidence that Jerry will fix what ails us. The thing that is striking to me , and this is my 6th year as a season ticket holder, is that this team seems to be the slowest one of the 6 i've watched closely. Any of you think that's an accurate statement ?
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Carey-Mullane-Kreider
Gaudreau-Arnold-Whitney
Linell-Hayes-Almeida
Smith-Straight-Sit
Ideally, I'd like to see a Gaudreau-Arnold-Almeida line.
Carey-Mullane-Kreider
Gaudreau-Arnold-Almeida
Linell-Hayes-Whitney
Smith-Straight-Sit
One change I'd like to see. Switch Mullane and Arnold.
Carey-Mullane-Kreider
Gaudreau-Arnold-Whitney
Linell-Hayes-Almeida
Smith-Straight-Sit
Ideally, I'd like to see a Gaudreau-Arnold-Almeida line.
Carey-Mullane-Kreider
Gaudreau-Arnold-Almeida
Linell-Hayes-Whitney
Smith-Straight-Sit
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Not the MO of a goal scorer.
MC hunkers down in the defensive zone and keeps shots on the perimeter, and they are very, very good at it. When you get the chance at the odd man rush or pucks to the slot, you have to pull the trigger. We created numerous grade A's yesterday and never took the shot. Frustrating.
Agree about the the team speed compared to other BC teams, but still speedier than a lot of the competition. This team has better depth through 4 lines than recent teams, IMO. Just lacking that 'go to' scorer right now. I thought it would be Arnold, as he has shown some good stuff around the net. But what the heck... he had the puck on the door step yesterday and passed the puck.
Not the MO of a goal scorer.MC hunkers down in the defensive zone and keeps shots on the perimeter, and they are very, very good at it. When you get the chance at the odd man rush or pucks to the slot, you have to pull the trigger. We created numerous grade A's yesterday and never took the shot. Frustrating.
Nick Papagiorgio
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Honest question... when was the last time we saw a good solid 60 minutes from this team? The BU game? After that you probably have to go back to the Maine win.
They've pis sed away some games they never should have. ND and Merrimack are two that come to mind.
I think BC has a shortage of "hockey players"... we need more Bill Arnold types. Less of the "other" types.
Positives at this point:
- Billett is the real deal. Still has some rebound issues but looks very good.
- They are in every game, not getting blown out, etc.
- 4th liners look pretty good, especially the freshmen like Linell and Sit.
- Creating a lot of chances offensively.
Concerns:
- Defense, defense, defense
- No go to scorer. This is ok if scoring by committee works but this is not great for the PP. Atkinson clearly is missed (duh).
- Transition speed is definitely slower than most years.
- Powerplay (better last night without the results)
- No identity, no swagger, no Dave Starman jam. This is why you had to love a guy like Gibbons. Arnold takes over the Gibbons role but the overall team doesn't shape their game like this as we've seen in years past.
- Toughness??? Sit got knocked into next week and no one responds. Meanwhile they let guys skate over the blue line, down the wall into the corner, don't touch anyone. Eliminate time and space? Nope, give them as much as possible. The only way this is the best way to do things is if the guys on D do lack physical toughness to step up and hit someone. How can that not concern someone?
- Mental awareness/mistakes. Lots of odd-man rushes allowed. Not taking the guy coming out of the penalty box. Bad pinches. Bad decisions. Etc.
In the meantime I'm preparing to see BC lose the Fenway game, the Beanpot, and make the NCAAs as a wild-card type team (probably with a higher seed than they should because of the early season success). It's bizarre to struggle like this and still be in a position to grab the 1 seed.
The hope is that this team is saving its best for last and the very strong schedule this year will pay dividends down the road. Normally I'd buy in to this as we usually see it annually from these York teams but there is something about this team I am just not crazy about.
Honest question... when was the last time we saw a good solid 60 minutes from this team? The BU game? After that you probably have to go back to the Maine win.
They've pis sed away some games they never should have. ND and Merrimack are two that come to mind.
I think BC has a shortage of "hockey players"... we need more Bill Arnold types. Less of the "other" types.
Positives at this point:
- Billett is the real deal. Still has some rebound issues but looks very good.
- They are in every game, not getting blown out, etc.
- 4th liners look pretty good, especially the freshmen like Linell and Sit.
- Creating a lot of chances offensively.
Concerns:
- Defense, defense, defense
- No go to scorer. This is ok if scoring by committee works but this is not great for the PP. Atkinson clearly is missed (duh).
- Transition speed is definitely slower than most years.
- Powerplay (better last night without the results)
- No identity, no swagger, no Dave Starman jam. This is why you had to love a guy like Gibbons. Arnold takes over the Gibbons role but the overall team doesn't shape their game like this as we've seen in years past.
- Toughness??? Sit got knocked into next week and no one responds. Meanwhile they let guys skate over the blue line, down the wall into the corner, don't touch anyone. Eliminate time and space? Nope, give them as much as possible. The only way this is the best way to do things is if the guys on D do lack physical toughness to step up and hit someone. How can that not concern someone?
- Mental awareness/mistakes. Lots of odd-man rushes allowed. Not taking the guy coming out of the penalty box. Bad pinches. Bad decisions. Etc.
In the meantime I'm preparing to see BC lose the Fenway game, the Beanpot, and make the NCAAs as a wild-card type team (probably with a higher seed than they should because of the early season success). It's bizarre to struggle like this and still be in a position to grab the 1 seed.
The hope is that this team is saving its best for last and the very strong schedule this year will pay dividends down the road. Normally I'd buy in to this as we usually see it annually from these York teams but there is something about this team I am just not crazy about.
Nick Papagiorgio
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
You're right on for the most part. BC still has a decided speed advantage, it's just not as severe as it usually is. All first period they had borderline great chances and either passed when should have shot or vice versa. Just couldn't figure out what to do with it. Then later in the game, they were holding the puck too long and not shooting and allowed MC to block a bunch of shots, which they do quite well (everyone knows this). Maybe line combos have to be figured out to get things clicking. I don't know.
Arnold doesn't fit the mold of go-to-scorer though. He is a 15-20 goal (goalcrease scorer) guy in the mold of a Mike Lephart. He can do a lot of things well but he's not that pure sniper with speed that you expect from an Atkinson or a Gionta.
Agree about the the team speed compared to other BC teams, but still speedier than a lot of the competition. This team has better depth through 4 lines than recent teams, IMO. Just lacking that 'go to' scorer right now. I thought it would be Arnold, as he has shown some good stuff around the net. But what the heck... he had the puck on the door step yesterday and passed the puck.
MC hunkers down in the defensive zone and keeps shots on the perimeter, and they are very, very good at it. When you get the chance at the odd man rush or pucks to the slot, you have to pull the trigger. We created numerous grade A's yesterday and never took the shot. Frustrating.
You're right on for the most part. BC still has a decided speed advantage, it's just not as severe as it usually is. All first period they had borderline great chances and either passed when should have shot or vice versa. Just couldn't figure out what to do with it. Then later in the game, they were holding the puck too long and not shooting and allowed MC to block a bunch of shots, which they do quite well (everyone knows this). Maybe line combos have to be figured out to get things clicking. I don't know.
Arnold doesn't fit the mold of go-to-scorer though. He is a 15-20 goal (goalcrease scorer) guy in the mold of a Mike Lephart. He can do a lot of things well but he's not that pure sniper with speed that you expect from an Atkinson or a Gionta.
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Give me time and I'll come up with a solution.
Here it is...
Next time we have a breakaway with a trailer, an odd man rush, or an open man on the back door with no clear passing lane, DO NOT SHOOT THE PUCK. Instead, pass the puck off the goaltenders pads.
Of course, sometimes the passer may screw up and the puck gets by the goalie and goes in the net, but hey... that's hockey! 
Give me time and I'll come up with a solution.
Here it is...
Next time we have a breakaway with a trailer, an odd man rush, or an open man on the back door with no clear passing lane, DO NOT SHOOT THE PUCK. Instead, pass the puck off the goaltenders pads.
Of course, sometimes the passer may screw up and the puck gets by the goalie and goes in the net, but hey... that's hockey!
Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Heres another solution. Keep Billet away from all Dunkin Donuts !!Give me time and I'll come up with a solution.
Here it is...
Next time we have a breakaway with a trailer, an odd man rush, or an open man on the back door with no clear passing lane, DO NOT SHOOT THE PUCK. Instead, pass the puck off the goaltenders pads.
Of course, sometimes the passer may screw up and the puck gets by the goalie and goes in the net, but hey... that's hockey!
Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
I agree this is not currently a national championship caliber team, but it's early. For this to be a championship caliber team, they need 1st rounders to play like 1st rounders. Right now they are making little impact. I also agree they need to find an edge. They really don't have a nasty player on their team. Smith plays tough and it was refreshing to see him hit MC's big dman, Arnold also had a nice clean hit, but there is no player opponent's love to hate. Maybe Jerry should start implementing some competitive drills in practice. Find the edge with some of these guys and get them to play there consistently.
There is still a lot of good to take away, but they have a long way to go and some of their top 6 forwards need to step up if they want to be playing in April.
I agree this is not currently a national championship caliber team, but it's early. For this to be a championship caliber team, they need 1st rounders to play like 1st rounders. Right now they are making little impact. I also agree they need to find an edge. They really don't have a nasty player on their team. Smith plays tough and it was refreshing to see him hit MC's big dman, Arnold also had a nice clean hit, but there is no player opponent's love to hate. Maybe Jerry should start implementing some competitive drills in practice. Find the edge with some of these guys and get them to play there consistently.
There is still a lot of good to take away, but they have a long way to go and some of their top 6 forwards need to step up if they want to be playing in April.
claver2010
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Excellent work Nick.
Scoring is most certainly an issue for this club, just look at the goals in the games this past month: 2, 2, 2, 2. As I said on EA, this team & this powerplay misses an Atkinson who can simply snipe from the circles.
And you look at the "secondary scorers" beyond Kreider, Arnold & Almeida (who has had some huge goals for this club so far): the Paul Careys, the Steve Whitneys, Kevin Hayes, etc. and it's really tailed off.
Gaudreau has hit a little bit of a wall off a hot start (2 goals since Halloween).
Kevin Hayes hasn't scored since the 2-1 win over NU (10 games)
Mullane is a great distributor but has scored a goal in 1 game all year (NoDak)
I think we all have been encouraged by the play of the 4th line but we're not getting any offense from them right now either and where we are struggling to score it becomes a larger issue.
This team definitely has the pieces to put together a run and if the season ended now they'd be the 1 in Worcester and we all would've signed up for that.
Side note: W T F is going on w Kreider and the penalties? Averaging more than a minor per game and already way ahead of last years totals.
Excellent work Nick.
Scoring is most certainly an issue for this club, just look at the goals in the games this past month: 2, 2, 2, 2. As I said on EA, this team & this powerplay misses an Atkinson who can simply snipe from the circles.
And you look at the "secondary scorers" beyond Kreider, Arnold & Almeida (who has had some huge goals for this club so far): the Paul Careys, the Steve Whitneys, Kevin Hayes, etc. and it's really tailed off.
Gaudreau has hit a little bit of a wall off a hot start (2 goals since Halloween).
Kevin Hayes hasn't scored since the 2-1 win over NU (10 games)
Mullane is a great distributor but has scored a goal in 1 game all year (NoDak)
I think we all have been encouraged by the play of the 4th line but we're not getting any offense from them right now either and where we are struggling to score it becomes a larger issue.
This team definitely has the pieces to put together a run and if the season ended now they'd be the 1 in Worcester and we all would've signed up for that.
Side note: W T F is going on w Kreider and the penalties? Averaging more than a minor per game and already way ahead of last years totals.
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
The biggest issue for me right now is they're not scoring enough. I think most would agree that there is a middle ground between their hot start and how they've been playing recently. So, what's this team's identity? Seems like a lot of line shuffling lately along with a potential new #1 goaltender. With Wey and Arnold back in the fold, let's see if we can settle on a lineup. The challenge for this team is to figure out how they need to play to turn these 3-2 losses and 2-2 ties into wins.
The biggest issue for me right now is they're not scoring enough. I think most would agree that there is a middle ground between their hot start and how they've been playing recently. So, what's this team's identity? Seems like a lot of line shuffling lately along with a potential new #1 goaltender. With Wey and Arnold back in the fold, let's see if we can settle on a lineup. The challenge for this team is to figure out how they need to play to turn these 3-2 losses and 2-2 ties into wins.
sterlippo1
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
his work is always excellent as is your's and a lot of the other guys. It's great reading and a tutorial of sorts for me, a relative newbie (despite my age) ............
and i get the PWR but seriously it's insane that they are still #4 in that and also in the polls but such is college hockey this year....
his work is always excellent as is your's and a lot of the other guys. It's great reading and a tutorial of sorts for me, a relative newbie (despite my age) ............
and i get the PWR but seriously it's insane that they are still #4 in that and also in the polls but such is college hockey this year....
Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Has Billet the Skillet been cooking pancakes again?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-...res-himself-while-eating-stack-155530523.html
Has Billet the Skillet been cooking pancakes again?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-...res-himself-while-eating-stack-155530523.html
claver2010
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
They're 6th in the league in PIMs (and 4th in the NCAA in PK). Think scoring is a bigger issue right now.
They're 6th in the league in PIMs (and 4th in the NCAA in PK). Think scoring is a bigger issue right now.
BCeagle
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2011-2012 season thread
Do they have any snipers coming in next year? It's critical with Kreider expected to leave and a big hole on D if Dumoulin leaves. I don't see Whitney, Hayes, Mullane, etc. improving their goal production. They're just not the type to score a lot of goals.
Brendan Silk??? Is he related to BU's Silk?
Do they have any snipers coming in next year? It's critical with Kreider expected to leave and a big hole on D if Dumoulin leaves. I don't see Whitney, Hayes, Mullane, etc. improving their goal production. They're just not the type to score a lot of goals.
Brendan Silk??? Is he related to BU's Silk?
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