Big Ten > NCHC

[FredsDeadFriend]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

I don't care about JBSU as much as the next guy, but Fred be getting owned.

I'm getting owned? Yeah sure, lol. And the moon is made out of cheese.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

I'm getting owned? Yeah sure, lol. And the moon is made out of cheese.

1. tUMD is much more whinier about respect than JBSU since they won a title
2. JBSU has been the better team in recent history. I hate it, but I can acknowledge that.

 

[icehawk]

I don't care about JBSU as much as the next guy, but Fred be getting owned.

So you are telling me history doesn’t dictate the future like Freddy Boy is saying?

 

[The Rube]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

So you are telling me history doesn’t dictate the future like Freddy Boy is saying?

History is what happened. Legacy is reputation. What happens now, is happening now. The past CAN dictate the future, but one cannot rely solely on the past to form the future.

 

[FredsDeadFriend]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

So you are telling me history doesn’t dictate the future like Freddy Boy is saying?

Well maybe you respect regular season results more than NCAA tourney results? But you would be a rare bird. Find me someone out there in the real world who thinks the end of the regular season #1 rated team should get more respect than the NCAA Tournament Champion and I'd be surprised. Because what I see is UMD with 2 trips to the Championship game with a Title to boot, just in the past decade. SCSU on the other hand has just one trip to the FF and not even a single trip to the Title game.

Getting ranked #1 in the regular season is nice and all, but it doesn't mean diddly squat if you can't follow that up come NCAA tourney time.

 

[FredsDeadFriend]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

So you are telling me history doesn’t dictate the future like Freddy Boy is saying?

I never said that history dictates the future. But until SCSU proves otherwise, history is all I have to go on. SCSU hasn't shown me any reason to think otherwise.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Well maybe you respect regular season results more than NCAA tourney results? But you would be a rare bird. Find me someone out there in the real world who thinks the end of the regular season #1 rated team should get more respect than the NCAA Tournament Champion and I'd be surprised. Because what I see is UMD with 2 trips to the Championship game with a Title to boot, just in the past decade. SCSU on the other hand has just one trip to the FF and not even a single trip to the Title game.

Getting ranked #1 in the regular season is nice and all, but it doesn't mean diddly squat if you can't follow that up come NCAA tourney time.

Where in the hell are you seeing that ANYONE says having the ranking means we are going to win it?
All anyone is saying is that right now...we are the best team in the country...and this weekend's results do not change that.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[FredsDeadFriend]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

All anyone is saying is that right now...we are the best team in the country...and this weekend's results do not change that.

NOT according to either The Krach rating or Massey's Rating of the Best Men's College Hockey teams.

The Krach estimates that the best team in the country is a B1G team, Notre Dame.

And Massey's Rating thinks Clarkson, a team the Gophers SWEPT, is the #1 rated team in the country, and has Notre Dame as the #2 rated team.

And looking at who SCSU has played and how they've done against them, I can easily see why other rating services wouldn't have SCSU at #1.

I mean, SCSU got SWEPT by the only Top 5 team they played. and has only played 5 games vs Top Ten rated teams and could only muster 2 wins in those 5 games. Vs a possibly overrated WCHA team at #7 and UND at #6 and UMn also got a win against UND.

Minnesota has THREE Top 10 wins, and 3 > 2, lol, including 2 wins vs #1 rated, by Massey, Clarkson as well as vs UND as was already mentioned.

And most of SCSU's success has come at home, going 9-0-1 so far at home but only 3-2-2 on the road, with only 3 of those 7 road games being vs ranked teams.

Minny's troubles have mostly come on the road as well, going 1-7-1 away from home, but 7 of those were against Top 10 rated teams, that's more than DOUBLE the # of Top 10 road opponents that SCSU has faced. Not making excuses, simply pointing out the facts, but our 11-2 record at home bodes well with our 4 remaining conf games against Top Ten teams all being played at home in Minnesota. Our 6 remaining conf road games are against teams in 4th, 5th and 7th in the B1G right now, so more winnable than our 1st half road games.


None of this is suggesting that Minnesota is better than SCSU, but seeing as Minny SWEPT a #1 rated team at home, but got swept by a #1 rated team on the road, and SCSU got swept on the road by a Top 5 rated Denver team and won 3 of 4 pts at home vs #6 rated UND, and our games with #1 rated SCSU are 1 home and 1 away game, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Gophers got a split.

 

[burd]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

NOT according to either The Krach rating or Massey's Rating of the Best Men's College Hockey teams.

The Krach estimates that the best team in the country is a B1G team, Notre Dame.

And Massey's Rating thinks Clarkson, a team the Gophers SWEPT, is the #1 rated team in the country, and has Notre Dame as the #2 rated team.

And looking at who SCSU has played and how they've done against them, I can easily see why other rating services wouldn't have SCSU at #1.

I mean, SCSU got SWEPT by the only Top 5 team they played. and has only played 5 games vs Top Ten rated teams and could only muster 2 wins in those 5 games. Vs a possibly overrated WCHA team at #7 and UND at #6 and UMn also got a win against UND.

Minnesota has THREE Top 10 wins, and 3 > 2, lol, including 2 wins vs #1 rated, by Massey, Clarkson as well as vs UND as was already mentioned.

And most of SCSU's success has come at home, going 9-0-1 so far at home but only 3-2-2 on the road, with only 3 of those 7 road games being vs ranked teams.

Minny's troubles have mostly come on the road as well, going 1-7-1 away from home, but 7 of those were against Top 10 rated teams, that's more than DOUBLE the # of Top 10 road opponents that SCSU has faced. Not making excuses, simply pointing out the facts, but our 11-2 record at home bodes well with our 4 remaining conf games against Top Ten teams all being played at home in Minnesota. Our 6 remaining conf road games are against teams in 4th, 5th and 7th in the B1G right now, so more winnable than our 1st half road games.


None of this is suggesting that Minnesota is better than SCSU, but seeing as Minny SWEPT a #1 rated team at home, but got swept by a #1 rated team on the road, and SCSU got swept on the road by a Top 5 rated Denver team and won 3 of 4 pts at home vs #6 rated UND, and our games with #1 rated SCSU are 1 home and 1 away game, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Gophers got a split.

Nice, but wind-aided, and you dribbled a little on your shoe so you lose style points.

 

[FredsDeadFriend]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

I said that they are better than the Gophers. I said that the NCHC is superior to the B1G. You have to resort to just making stuff up to even have an argument.

better than the Gophers? I'd say its a 60/40 chance SCSU is better than the Gophers THIS season. They've played a MUCH weaker schedule than the Gophers, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

NCHC is superior to the B1G??

Not according to the Krach or the Massey Ratings, at least not as far as Top 14 teams are concerned, you know, teams that will make the tourney.

Krach has B1G teams ranked

#1, #5, #7 & #12

And NCHC teams ranked

#2, #6, #8, #10 & #13.


Massey's Rating has the B1G ranked

#2, #5, #10 & #12

and the NCHC

#3, #6, #11 & #14.

And if a WCHA team other than Mankato wins the WCHA Tourney, a team ranked #14 might not get in. Same situation could happen if the Top rated HE team doesn't win their Conf Tourney. If both happened, it would very unlikely a #14 ranked team gets in.

A lot is riding on the remaining ooc games for NCHC and B1G teams.

 

[icehawk]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Aren’t these novels Freddy posts awesome?

 

[purpleinnebraska]

Aren’t these novels Freddy posts awesome?

But think of all we’ve learned:
- Dean Blais is still coaching
- The Big has been hurt more this year by early departures than has the NCHC, which had more early departures
- The NCAA now uses Krach and Massey in determining the field
- Whenever Blake Wheeler or Thomas Vanek scores a point, it makes Leon Bristedt stronger

 

[First Time Long Time]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

NOT according to either The Krach rating or Massey's Rating of the Best Men's College Hockey teams.

The Krach estimates that the best team in the country is a B1G team, Notre Dame.

And Massey's Rating thinks Clarkson, a team the Gophers SWEPT, is the #1 rated team in the country, and has Notre Dame as the #2 rated team.

And looking at who SCSU has played and how they've done against them, I can easily see why other rating services wouldn't have SCSU at #1.

I mean, SCSU got SWEPT by the only Top 5 team they played. and has only played 5 games vs Top Ten rated teams and could only muster 2 wins in those 5 games. Vs a possibly overrated WCHA team at #7 and UND at #6 and UMn also got a win against UND.

Minnesota has THREE Top 10 wins, and 3 > 2, lol, including 2 wins vs #1 rated, by Massey, Clarkson as well as vs UND as was already mentioned.

And most of SCSU's success has come at home, going 9-0-1 so far at home but only 3-2-2 on the road, with only 3 of those 7 road games being vs ranked teams.

Minny's troubles have mostly come on the road as well, going 1-7-1 away from home, but 7 of those were against Top 10 rated teams, that's more than DOUBLE the # of Top 10 road opponents that SCSU has faced. Not making excuses, simply pointing out the facts, but our 11-2 record at home bodes well with our 4 remaining conf games against Top Ten teams all being played at home in Minnesota. Our 6 remaining conf road games are against teams in 4th, 5th and 7th in the B1G right now, so more winnable than our 1st half road games.


None of this is suggesting that Minnesota is better than SCSU, but seeing as Minny SWEPT a #1 rated team at home, but got swept by a #1 rated team on the road, and SCSU got swept on the road by a Top 5 rated Denver team and won 3 of 4 pts at home vs #6 rated UND, and our games with #1 rated SCSU are 1 home and 1 away game, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Gophers got a split.

If only any of this mattered in determining the NCAA field...
Also...are you seriously trying to say MN gets credit for their horrid road record because they faced top 10 teams? Really?
I mean you really like to twist anything to promote MN and rip any NCHC team...you need a hobby mate.

 

[icehawk]

But think of all we’ve learned:
- Dean Blais is still coaching
- The Big has been hurt more this year by early departures than has the NCHC, which had more early departures
- The NCAA now uses Krach and Massey in determining the field
- Whenever Blake Wheeler or Thomas Vanek scores a point, it makes Leon Bristedt stronger

LMAO. Well done sir

 

[FredsDeadFriend]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

But think of all we’ve learned:
- Dean Blais is still coaching
- The Big has been hurt more this year by early departures than has the NCHC, which had more early departures
- The NCAA now uses Krach and Massey in determining the field
- Whenever Blake Wheeler or Thomas Vanek scores a point, it makes Leon Bristedt stronger

I simply don't pay attention to non-Gopher offseason sh1t, so excuse me for not knowing Blais retired.

I didn't say the B1G was hurt more "this year" by early departures. I said that they were hurt more by early departures IN THE PAST.

I never said the NCAA uses the Krach or Massey in determining the field, but you didn't say SCSU was the #1 contender for the #1 overall seed, you stated the OPINION that SCSU was the best team in the country, simply because the popular polls and the lame PWR has them ranked #1.

But the public opinion polls don't determine who gets the #1 overall seed, either, and how often have the public opinion polls correctly identified the best team in the country???

My guess is that the Krach has more accurately predicted NCAA tourney outcomes than the PWR or the popular polls. Not sure about the Massey ratings? I just mentioned them to show that NOT EVERYONE considers SCSU the best team in the country.

My guess is the Denver squad that swept SCSU thinks differently. My guess is anyone and everyone involved with the Princeton hockey program probably doubts SCSU is #1.


And how Blake Wheeler or Thomas Vanek or Phil Kessel or Eric Haula or Nick Leddy does in the NHL has no effect on how the Gophers perform this season. That has never been my point, DUH. But it figures that you are too think to understand why those players performances in the NHL are significant.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

Def JDUBS.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Def JDUBS.

At the very least...the same brain damage.

 

[icehawk]

Def JDUBS.

Without a doubt

 

[icehawk]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

Yet another novel. Pretty much the same novel but worded differently. Good material to put one asleep.