Skeeterman
Bob is making me nervous
Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Big Ten, big deal, big bust. Would be like another CHA conference.
Big Ten, big deal, big bust. Would be like another CHA conference.
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Big Ten Hockey Conference
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JF_Gophers
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
No, anything >=6 has BigTen. All of the other <6 school sports (hockey, lacrosse, fencing, M rowing and W water polo) belong to single sport conferences. The addition of Nebraska does not move any of the <6 sports to 6.
No, anything >=6 has BigTen. All of the other <6 school sports (hockey, lacrosse, fencing, M rowing and W water polo) belong to single sport conferences. The addition of Nebraska does not move any of the <6 sports to 6.
Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Only at the Division I level. And it seems to work okay at the D-III level, although the prevalence of the SUNYAC in upstate New York is causing problems for the few non-SUNYAC teams in the area.
Powers &8^]
Only at the Division I level. And it seems to work okay at the D-III level, although the prevalence of the SUNYAC in upstate New York is causing problems for the few non-SUNYAC teams in the area.
Powers &8^]
Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Exactly.
And it is an easy choice when you consider the money and the prestige the "U" makes via their affiliation with the Big Ten. Even a political critic would be wise enough to understand that. Which is why I would (for one of a few times) agree with Badger fan over a fellow Gopher fan. When it comes down to an either/or situation, there is no way on earth anybody with a brain would ever expect the Gophers to ditch the Big Ten.
The other hockey programs in the state will be fine. Yeah, they may not see the Gophers in their rink as often as they do now (which might hurt financially a bit since they often charge more money for tickets on those weekends) but it certainly isn't going to make those programs go the way of the dinosaur either. That is underestimating those programs and the support of their fans.
Exactly.
And it is an easy choice when you consider the money and the prestige the "U" makes via their affiliation with the Big Ten. Even a political critic would be wise enough to understand that. Which is why I would (for one of a few times) agree with Badger fan over a fellow Gopher fan. When it comes down to an either/or situation, there is no way on earth anybody with a brain would ever expect the Gophers to ditch the Big Ten.
The other hockey programs in the state will be fine. Yeah, they may not see the Gophers in their rink as often as they do now (which might hurt financially a bit since they often charge more money for tickets on those weekends) but it certainly isn't going to make those programs go the way of the dinosaur either. That is underestimating those programs and the support of their fans.
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I agree with you. I think the issue is that with there now being 6 Big Ten teams with Div. 1 hockey, other Big Ten schools are much more likely to seriously explore adding it. And like I said earlier, if they get up to 8 Big Ten schools with Div. 1 hockey, I don't see how a BTHC doesn't form.
So right now, I don't think there will be any impact on the current conferences (other than perhaps a reduced schedule). But the groundwork has been laid for change down the road.
I agree with you. I think the issue is that with there now being 6 Big Ten teams with Div. 1 hockey, other Big Ten schools are much more likely to seriously explore adding it. And like I said earlier, if they get up to 8 Big Ten schools with Div. 1 hockey, I don't see how a BTHC doesn't form.
So right now, I don't think there will be any impact on the current conferences (other than perhaps a reduced schedule). But the groundwork has been laid for change down the road.
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From what I've heard from a couple places - including early in the Penn State thread - 2011/12 is when they would hire staff and start recruiting for DI (least officially), but wouldn't actually start play until 2012-13 as an independent. Then the BTHC start in 2013/14.
But not seen anything concrete, suppose that all could be addressed on Friday.
From what I've heard from a couple places - including early in the Penn State thread - 2011/12 is when they would hire staff and start recruiting for DI (least officially), but wouldn't actually start play until 2012-13 as an independent. Then the BTHC start in 2013/14.
But not seen anything concrete, suppose that all could be addressed on Friday.
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Priceless
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
None.
The Big East has UConn, the ACC has BC and Army and Notre Dame are Independent.
None.
The Big East has UConn, the ACC has BC and Army and Notre Dame are Independent.
RaceBoarder
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
I guess we have a different opinion of a "big" football conference
I guess we have a different opinion of a "big" football conference
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Technially, the Big East has Providence and Notre Dame as well. They don't play football in the Big East, but they are otherwise in the conference.
Technially, the Big East has Providence and Notre Dame as well. They don't play football in the Big East, but they are otherwise in the conference.
dggoddard
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Its not TV thats driving the Big Ten schools to a new conference. Its ticket revenue.
Wisconsin needs to sell 15,000 seats each night. Easy to do when the Gophers hit town, impossible when UAA hits town.
Minnesota sells out every game, but massive price hikes and seat licenses are on the way. BTHC will move season tickets.
Ohio State has 15,000 empty seats almost every game.
Michigan & Michigan State probably can't raise prices much, but this will give them additional nonconference home dates.
Penn State needs to find 7,000 season ticket holders.
Its not TV thats driving the Big Ten schools to a new conference. Its ticket revenue.
Wisconsin needs to sell 15,000 seats each night. Easy to do when the Gophers hit town, impossible when UAA hits town.
Minnesota sells out every game, but massive price hikes and seat licenses are on the way. BTHC will move season tickets.
Ohio State has 15,000 empty seats almost every game.
Michigan & Michigan State probably can't raise prices much, but this will give them additional nonconference home dates.
Penn State needs to find 7,000 season ticket holders.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
There is no way MN gets more fans excited about going to a game by having Ohio State and Penn State come to town than they do with UND and SCSU. No way.
dggoddard
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
For Minnesota its all about selling the season tickets.
Agreed, but what about the series against the other eight teams at the bottom of the WCHA standings?
For Minnesota its all about selling the season tickets.
moose97
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
The Badgers played UMinn and UAA on back-to-back weekends last year, and the Gophs were = to ~ 500 extra tickets sold:
Fri. vs. Gophs - 12,508
Fri. vs. UAA - 11,870
I'll even save you getting out the calculator - it's an extra 638 tickets.
Sat. vs. Gophs - 14,063
Sat. vs. UAA - 13,612
That's an extra 451 tickets. Plus, who's to say anyone cares about a start-up Penn State that's gonna come in and stink right away? Your argument doesn't hold water...
The Badgers played UMinn and UAA on back-to-back weekends last year, and the Gophs were = to ~ 500 extra tickets sold:
Fri. vs. Gophs - 12,508
Fri. vs. UAA - 11,870
I'll even save you getting out the calculator - it's an extra 638 tickets.
Sat. vs. Gophs - 14,063
Sat. vs. UAA - 13,612
That's an extra 451 tickets. Plus, who's to say anyone cares about a start-up Penn State that's gonna come in and stink right away? Your argument doesn't hold water...
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Wisconsin averages 12,000 - 13,000 per game. The Rodent series was 12,508 & 14,063 respectively. The lowest attended game was Friday UNH, 11,490. Last year UW played UAA in November and had 11,870 Friday and 13,612 Saturday. Wisconsin will draw no matter who comes to the Kohl to play. I would bet Penn St and OSU would draw better because the average sports fan will recognize the names more vs MI Tech or UAA.
That being said, I am against the b11 hockey conference.
But there's no way PSU is starting a program without having a conference lined up. I just don't think the b11 is dying to start a hockey conference.
Wisconsin averages 12,000 - 13,000 per game. The Rodent series was 12,508 & 14,063 respectively. The lowest attended game was Friday UNH, 11,490. Last year UW played UAA in November and had 11,870 Friday and 13,612 Saturday. Wisconsin will draw no matter who comes to the Kohl to play. I would bet Penn St and OSU would draw better because the average sports fan will recognize the names more vs MI Tech or UAA.
That being said, I am against the b11 hockey conference.
But there's no way PSU is starting a program without having a conference lined up. I just don't think the b11 is dying to start a hockey conference.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference
Wisconsin's problems at the box office (odd to say such a thing for the team that draws the most fans per game) have only marginally something to do with the opponent.
The major upticks for attendance are RIVALRY games- it's not just the name familiarity with the common idiot. North Dakota, and Denver to a lesser extent, typically sees the same effect on attendance that Minnesota brings. Time of the season and how well the Badgers are doing have a much larger effect than the opponent. I see no evidence to indicate that any of the CCHA Big Ten schools would bring in fans any better than NoDak or Denver.
Wisconsin's problems at the box office (odd to say such a thing for the team that draws the most fans per game) have only marginally something to do with the opponent.
The major upticks for attendance are RIVALRY games- it's not just the name familiarity with the common idiot. North Dakota, and Denver to a lesser extent, typically sees the same effect on attendance that Minnesota brings. Time of the season and how well the Badgers are doing have a much larger effect than the opponent. I see no evidence to indicate that any of the CCHA Big Ten schools would bring in fans any better than NoDak or Denver.
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