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Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus

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Hockey East steps up to the podium to accept it's role as the nations top hockey conference now.

Speech! Speech! Speech!
 
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I don't like a BTHC. To me, Wisconsin's hockey rivals are NoDak, Denver, CC and UMD, not tOSU, MSU and Michigan.

The only silver lining I see is if the open spaces in the CCHA and WCHA encourage other schools to add hockey. And that's a big if.

And, I worry Wisconsin hockey will schedule like football. We'll play you - but only if you come to our place so we get the home revenue. That's not good in the larger picture for the sports, more specifically teams like Tech, Mankato, Alaska, etc.

And, UW's ban on playing non-conference opponents with 'hostile' nicknames is still in place, right? So, unless it does change, no Sioux-Badgers games...
 
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Absolutely.

What I'm most interested in today is whether there will be any formal statements by Denver or North Dakota. I hope they are not unequivocal support for the WCHA. A breakaway conference needs to be explored. And when the casualties start to mount, don't blame the schools reacting to the BTHC, blame the schools that started it. It's everyone for themselves at this point.
Denver is irrelevant as far as I'm concern. They and CC want out of playing MTU, SCSU, MSUM, BSU if they can. We don't need to hear a statement to know that. North Dakota is the ultimate decider in a breakaway conference. If they want to keep playing MTU, SCSU, MSUM, BSU, it will be status quo at 10 until CC and DU can figure something out (probably with the Alaska schools and canadian schools).
 
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Oh, the comedy.

ROTFLMAO

NO ONE WATCHES HOCKEY ON TV. NO ONE. THE NHL CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO WATCH.

I wish Priceless still had his signature with the NCAA regionals average of 55,000 households and the final with Boston College and Wisconsin barely cracking a 1.0 on ESPN. Clearly, replacing Boston College with Michigan in a regular season game in January will increase that twenty fold on the Big Ten Network.
 
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Absolutely.

What I'm most interested in today is whether there will be any formal statements by Denver or North Dakota. I hope they are not unequivocal support for the WCHA. A breakaway conference needs to be explored. And when the casualties start to mount, don't blame the schools reacting to the BTHC, blame the schools that started it. It's everyone for themselves at this point.

Right now, UND is the team in the drivers seat for how the non-BT schols react. Do they want to remain with the remaing WCHA teams, reach out to Miami and Notre Dame, or some combination of the two? I believe that what UND decides to do will dicate how the other cards fall.
 
Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus

I don't like a BTHC. To me, Wisconsin's hockey rivals are NoDak, Denver, CC and UMD, not tOSU, MSU and Michigan.

The only silver lining I see is if the open spaces in the CCHA and WCHA encourage other schools to add hockey. And that's a big if.

And, I worry Wisconsin hockey will schedule like football. We'll play you - but only if you come to our place so we get the home revenue. That's not good in the larger picture for the sports, more specifically teams like Tech, Mankato, Alaska, etc.

And, UW's ban on playing non-conference opponents with 'hostile' nicknames is still in place, right? So, unless it does change, no Sioux-Badgers games...
That is not true, there is an exception for "traditional rivals" so Sioux vs Badgers or Gophers should be intact if they want it.
 
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Where does the extra money come from? Where is the broader media coverage? You think people are going to watch college hockey just because it's on the BTN?

I'm not going to take the time to pull research for you. Find it yourself.
 
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Hockey East steps up to the podium to accept it's role as the nations top hockey conference now.

Speech! Speech! Speech!
You have to wonder if this will set into motion a chain of events that impacts Hockey East.

This is sad day for college hockey and an especially for the Minnesota schools left behind. I was hoping that political pressure from the smaller schools and communities might cause Minnesota to waiver.
 
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People dreaming about expansion are really sucking down some Kool-Aid. Retraction will be next. Title 9 will prevent any expansion from ever happening. That and hockey is not a "cheap" sport to start up.
 
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I'm not going to take the time to pull research for you. Find it yourself.

You are the one that made the original statement, YOU need to be the one to back it up with facts when called upon.

I suspect that the B10 as a group will have much more leverage with the big wigs in Bristol then any other college hockey entity, that alone might be enough to get one minute of coverage (combined) on game nights after football season.
 
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I'm not going to take the time to pull research for you. Find it yourself.

Weak sauce. Defend your position.

On ESPN the NCAA finals last year barely pulled a 1.0 rating. You expect a regular season game between OSU and MSU to pull anywhere near that? On a network that reaches a fraction of the households ESPN does?
 
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People dreaming about expansion are really sucking down some Kool-Aid. Retraction will be next. Title 9 will prevent any expansion from ever happening. That and hockey is not a "cheap" sport to start up.

My plan is to make hundreds of millions of dollars just so I can donate it to the other B10 schools just to prove you wrong! [/scarcasm]
 
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Let the ... new conferences ... begin.

Oh please no. I'd prefer to just let the Big10 circle jerk themselves, and let the CCHA and WCHA keep the remaining members.

If anything kills college hockey, it would be the Anti-Big10 conference.
 
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You have to wonder if this will set into motion a chain of events that impacts Hockey East.

This is sad day for college hockey and an especially for the Minnesota schools left behind. I was hoping that political pressure from the smaller schools and communities might cause Minnesota to waiver.

Can't really see that happening as this move really does benefit the Hockey East at the unfortunate expense of the remnants of the WCHA.
 
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Oh please no. I'd prefer to just let the Big10 circle jerk themselves, and let the CCHA and WCHA keep the remaining members.

If anything kills college hockey, it would be the Anti-Big10 conference.
Well since you're a fan of one of the remaining CCHA teams, do you think LSSU, NMU, WMU, FSU, BGSU can survive without the B1G school?
 
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You are the one that made the original statement, YOU need to be the one to back it up with facts when called upon.

I suspect that the B10 as a group will have much more leverage with the big wigs in Bristol then any other college hockey entity, that alone might be enough to get one minute of coverage (combined) on game nights after football season.

I pull research on this board constantly sir. But not for those who are entrenched in cynicism. Like I said the projections are out there...go find it yourself.
 
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You have to wonder if this will set into motion a chain of events that impacts Hockey East.

This is sad day for college hockey and an especially for the Minnesota schools left behind. I was hoping that political pressure from the smaller schools and communities might cause Minnesota to waiver.
Minnesota did waiver...but they can't stop the B1GHC by themselves...they needed at least 2 of the other 6 to be with them...
 
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You have to wonder if this will set into motion a chain of events that impacts Hockey East.

Depends on what, if any impact this will have on Atlantic Hockey, with regards to any realignment of the western NY and PA teams. It may also have some impact on recruiting. Overall, I suspect that it would be minor.

This is sad day for college hockey and an especially for the Minnesota schools left behind. I was hoping that political pressure from the smaller schools and communities might cause Minnesota to waiver.

That would require Maturi to actually have a spine (and maybe a brain, who knows). $20M+ a year can over-rule many a political concern.
 
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