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Big Ten Conference Tournament

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I think they are taking a smart approach. Rotate the tournament until it becomes evident that one location significantly outdraws the other. If Detroit keeps pace or outdraws St Paul, then so be it, the Big Ten would be smart to continue holding it there. Time will tell.
 
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I think they are taking a smart approach. Rotate the tournament until it becomes evident that one location significantly outdraws the other. If Detroit keeps pace or outdraws St Paul, then so be it, the Big Ten would be smart to continue holding it there. Time will tell.
Although I hate the long traveling anymore I think it would be the most fair to the fan base to do a rotation. They rotate the NCAA's so why not conference?
 
Although I hate the long traveling anymore I think it would be the most fair to the fan base to do a rotation. They rotate the NCAA's so why not conference?

My point is this. The whole reason they formed the Big Ten Hockey Conference was to maximize revenues. Why would they not try and maximize revenue for this tournament? That absolutely are going to try to.

That said, they are going to hold the tournament where they can make the most profit. I think that is, without a doubt, in St Paul. Some of you disagree. Time will tell, but I know I wouldn't put my money on anywhere else. I mean, the Minnesota State High School Tournament draws over 100,000 people annually. The WCHA Final Five draws 90,000 people. Tough to compete with that.
 
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Moniker or not you can't deny when the Wings are on the road you'll see more Wings fans in jerseys in the crowds than any other pro team generates on the road. Hockey fans all over the country love Detroit.

The Laughs have the biggest fan base on the road.
 
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What I've learned from this thread:

Detroit Sucks!

And apparently the way to solve the NCAA regional attendance issues is having them at the X, Target Center, Mariucci and the HHH Dome, culminating with the first outdoor Frozen Four at TCF Bank Stadium.
 
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My point is this. The whole reason they formed the Big Ten Hockey Conference was to maximize revenues. Why would they not try and maximize revenue for this tournament? That absolutely are going to try to.

That said, they are going to hold the tournament where they can make the most profit. I think that is, without a doubt, in St Paul. Some of you disagree. Time will tell, but I know I wouldn't put my money on anywhere else. I mean, the Minnesota State High School Tournament draws over 100,000 people annually. The WCHA Final Five draws 90,000 people. Tough to compete with that.
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying here, my point is what would be most fair to the fans. But sadly everyone knows when it comes to the allmighty dollar the fans come last.
 
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Target Center SUCKS for hockey, and I don't even want to think about the Dome.
 
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying here, my point is what would be most fair to the fans. But sadly everyone knows when it comes to the allmighty dollar the fans come last.

Rotating it would be most fair to the fans, but if the fan's interest were being taken into account they never would have broken the conferences up in the first place.
 
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I dont care where the tournament is held i will be there. Living in Toledo i would love it to be in detroit which is closest to my house and i wont have to pay for hotels. I cant wait untill the start of the Big Ten Hockey Conference so us buckeye fans can see Wisconsin and Minnesota every season.
 
I dont care where the tournament is held i will be there. Living in Toledo i would love it to be in detroit which is closest to my house and i wont have to pay for hotels. I cant wait untill the start of the Big Ten Hockey Conference so us buckeye fans can see Wisconsin and Minnesota every season.

Excited to play you guys too :)
 
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If the Big Ten were that concerned with ticket sales, they would revert to home site 3-game series and skip the neutral site final. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, and Michigan State would all draw at least 12,000 on a weekend for their playoff games, Penn State would be an unknown factor, and even OSU could expect better attendances if they were playing someone like Michigan State instead of Bowling Green (better attendance being a relative term--OSU's playoff attendances have always been pitiful). In five series your low-end attendance estimates wind up being north of 50,000, and your high-end can be much higher. A 3-game Big Ten championship series at the Kohl between Wisconsin and Minnesota would draw 45,000 people, just for the final.

But home sites are tricky to work, so it seems that the schools want a neutral site. Fine with me; if Michigan plays at the X every spring that gives me another chance to see them every year. I'd be one of 200 Michigan fans in the building, but I'd get to see them. The thousands of Michigan and Michigan State fans actually in Michigan would get left out, though, and that stinks in a big way. So would Minnesota's perpetual home-ice advantage, making them a dangerous team every season regardless of whether or not they were any good during the year. A rotation system may not make the most money, but it is the most fair and most reasonable option for a geographically diverse conference.

This debate illustrates one of the most poignant tragedies of realignment: The dissolution of strong, regional conference championships. The Final Five is one of the crown jewels of college hockey, a hugely popular and successful event that annually draws a tremendous diversity of fans to a central metropolitan location to celebrate their sport. The key factor is the regional convenience: Sure, Minnesota has the most fans and is the closest team, but St. Paul is an easy day trip for six other conference teams and a marginal one for two others. To a lesser extent this is true at the Joe as well; Michigan and MSU are the big draws, but most other CCHA schools are close enough to send a solid contingent if their team is doing well. The Michigan-Ferris final in 2003 outdrew the Michigan-MSU final in 2002 (over 19,000) on the strength of several thousand Ferris State fans heading down I-96 for the game.

This regional appeal simply does not exist for the Big Ten, and the large fanbase anchor school does not exist for the NCHC unless they hold the tournament at the Ralph. The only improvement for the Big Ten is that all six teams participate every year, which guarantees at least one Minnesota game at the X and one game for UM and MSU each at the Joe.

Perhaps the Big Ten brand, and the hockey equity of the top four schools, will build a new demand and make the new championship event popular. Perhaps not. My guess is that the best days of the conference championship tournaments in the West are behind us.
 
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I disagree, the tournament is all about ticket sales. And I think Chuck Scwartz does an <A HREF="http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2012/2/8/2783168/big-ten-alters-hockey-playoff-plans">excellent job explaining</A> why the home site plan offers much less certainty for revenue, all the while not providing any opportunity to make more than at the right neutral site.
 
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Moniker or not you can't deny when the Wings are on the road you'll see more Wings fans in jerseys in the crowds than any other pro team generates on the road. Hockey fans all over the country love Detroit.

Yeah! People love Detroit!
People love New York too! Just look at all the Yankees jerseys and baseball caps you see everywhere.
People love L.A. too! Just look at all the Lakers jerseys people wear.
 
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What I've learned from this thread:

Detroit Sucks!

And apparently the way to solve the NCAA regional attendance issues is having them at the X, Target Center, Mariucci and the HHH Dome, culminating with the first outdoor Frozen Four at TCF Bank Stadium.

No one answered my question. No one shows up to the CCHA tournament, even when Michigan is in it. Why would it be any different for the B1G tournament?
 
No one answered my question. No one shows up to the CCHA tournament, even when Michigan is in it. Why would it be any different for the B1G tournament?

That's the question I've been waiting to have answered too. Apparently flocks of OSU and PSU fans will travel, but only if it's in Detroit, and MSU and MU fans will allegedly care enough to show up now because it's the Big 10.
 
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