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Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

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City of Edina just put out a reminder to not flush wipes- they have anticipated an increase in sewer blockages during stay at home
 
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Kepler said:
Dump had issues in Utah last time too. It's weird; don't use it as an example of anything but weirdness.
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It's not weird. Mormons know he's a fraud, and they take his jabs at Romney personally as an attack on all of them. However, a majority of them still can't bring themselves to vote D because of the whole "religious freedumb" thing, which is a hot button issue for a faith group that used to be persecuted and are still regularly mocked.

I suspect many of them will stay home, or skip the POTUS section of the ballot.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's not weird. Mormons know he's a fraud, and they take his jabs at Romney personally as an attack on all of them. However, a majority of them still can't bring themselves to vote D because of the whole "religious freedumb" thing, which is a hot button issue for a faith group that used to be persecuted and are still regularly mocked.

I suspect many of them will stay home, or skip the POTUS section of the ballot.
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Dump still won Utah in 2016. He's gonna win Utah again in 2020 cuz TEH BABBY!
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's not weird. Mormons know he's a fraud, and they take his jabs at Romney personally as an attack on all of them. However, a majority of them still can't bring themselves to vote D because of the whole "religious freedumb" thing, which is a hot button issue for a faith group that used to be persecuted and are still regularly mocked.

I suspect many of them will stay home, or skip the POTUS section of the ballot.
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I would also think that education might have something to do with it. Utah doesn't seem like Mississippi in terms of an educated populace, so while they may support the impotent Nazi eventually they aren't likely to punish The Mittster for voting in favor of his impeachment.
 
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Biden is on CNN (I would guess taped) and good god I am not big fan of his but he is destroying Trump over every aspect of the disease. Hell at one point he is talking about the mcaho bs and just goes "ya know what I shouldnt even get going" and it was more Presidential than anything Trump has said in his entire term.

Also isnt ducking being called out for the "You arent Black" comment.
 
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Handyman said:
Biden is on CNN (I would guess taped) and good god I am not big fan of his but he is destroying Trump over every aspect of the disease. Hell at one point he is talking about the mcaho bs and just goes "ya know what I shouldnt even get going" and it was more Presidential than anything Trump has said in his entire term.

Also isnt ducking being called out for the "You arent Black" comment.
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He was great on Maher, too.

I guess you don't hold a Senate seat for a thousand years without learning something about how to be a politician.
 
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Kepler said:
He was great on Maher, too.

I guess you don't hold a Senate seat for a thousand years without learning something about how to be a politician.
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Well it helps when you are compared to Trump ;)

He is having fun dodging the "Veep" question. He knows who he wants but he is going to wait until the very last second to announce :D

Now he is nailing Trump over his stupid "Vote by Mail" while voting by mail himself. Literally just said "Trump always lies about voting" :eek:

Oh man it is going to be fun watching Biden flat out laughing at Trump when he tries to insult him :D
 
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Handyman said:
Biden is on CNN (I would guess taped) and good god I am not big fan of his but he is destroying Trump over every aspect of the disease. Hell at one point he is talking about the mcaho bs and just goes "ya know what I shouldnt even get going" and it was more Presidential than anything Trump has said in his entire term.

Also isnt ducking being called out for the "You arent Black" comment.
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Loved what he said about the mask. Said wearing a mask shows leadership. He threw back at trump all the macho bull5h!t and didn't sound like a moron doing it.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So here's an absoutely insane email from the President of the United States. <a href="https://t.co/mWjnovWS2w">pic.twitter.com/mWjnovWS2w</a></p>— Tim Miller (@Timodc) <a href="https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1265782271866359808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So here's an absoutely insane email from the President of the United States. <a href="https://t.co/mWjnovWS2w">pic.twitter.com/mWjnovWS2w</a></p>— Tim Miller (@Timodc) <a href="https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1265782271866359808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Always projecting. Always. trump (and increasingly the republican party) knows that in many places they used to hold sway, the only way they will win is to cheat and steal. If we turn out the vote like a dozen years ago and find a way to keep the lid on republican corruption come November, Biden's electoral map will look as blue as Bush's was red in 1988.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh this sounds very on brand <a href="https://t.co/SW8GTzhicA">https://t.co/SW8GTzhicA</a></p>— Molly Jong-Fast🏡 (@MollyJongFast) <a href="https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1265815289138155527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Well he hardly knows her...probably never met her!
 
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Trump Is Laying the Groundwork to Contest the Results of the Election

It’s not always a good idea to take seriously, much less literally, many of Donald Trump’s Twitter rants. But his campaign against voting by mail is becoming more, not less, intense and shows every sign of becoming a major MAGA election-year message. His latest offering is so strident that it’s completely incompatible with any sort of attempt to spin, qualify, or walk back.

He’s misinformed and misinforming about Gavin Newsom, of course; the governor’s order sent ballots to registered voters, not “anyone living in the state.” And beyond that, a big majority of California voters (70 percent in the March 3 primary) are already getting mail ballots automatically as permanent vote-by-mail registrants. As for what he means by “professionals telling all of these people” how to vote, this is transparently a reference to the grand, if racist, conservative myth of minority voters being herded like cattle into the Democratic column via bribes or some other illicit method.

But beyond that, Trump is now regularly claiming that voting by mail is inherently illegitimate, except for grudging exceptions for people who can’t make it to the polls. So, presumably, states that allow for no-excuse voting by mail in November are holding “substantially fraudulent” elections. That’s 34 states who do so by law (including battleground states Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin), 11 more that so far are waiving excuse requirements this pandemic year (including New Hampshire), and another that may be forced to do so by a lawsuit (Texas).

So in a very real sense, unless Trump backs off his claims that voting by mail means a “rigged election,” he’s letting us know that he and his supporters will be justified in challenging any adverse results in states that allow this terrible practice to take place.

A group of 30 political scientists who recently met to look at scary post-election scenarios explained exactly how a vote-by-mail contest might play out, as Louis Jacobson noted at Cook Political Report:
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Trump Is Laying the Groundwork to Contest the Results of the Election
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And these states need to tell Chump to go F himself. Especially in light of the Chumpster himself voting by mail. Nothing is going to prevent them from whining anyway no matter if he suffers a severe a ss kicking. But if it makes everyone feel better, the battleground states of MI, NC, PA and WI have Dem secretaries of state and governors thus limiting Chump's ability to pull off a "Florida 2000" scenario.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New group launches $10 million campaign to get Republicans to vote for Biden over Trump <a href="https://t.co/bd3m48ruCc">https://t.co/bd3m48ruCc</a></p>— CNN (@CNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1266061952192831491?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The initiative, called Republican Voters Against Trump, has produced multiple ads featuring disaffected GOP voters who say they are not voting for Trump. Many of these testimonials are recorded on smartphones and include voters who have voted for Republican candidates, some of whom voted for Trump in 2016.

"I voted for Donald Trump in 2016, but I won't vote for him again," says Jay, a Pennsylvania voter who recorded one of nearly 100 videos featured on the project's website. Some of the testimonials will be featured in the ads.

"People need to see other people like themselves," said Sarah Longwell, a longtime conservative and Republican consultant who is the executive director of Defending Democracy Together, the nonprofit behind the effort. The New York Times first reported on the new ad campaign.\

Longwell told CNN the ads will initially target specific voters in the swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Arizona, primarily through digital ads. Some television ads have also been produced and will air in those states.
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I am sure the Times and CNN are interviewing the same 8 people they always do to ask if they will still vote for Trump to rebut this ;)
 
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Handyman said:
I am sure the Times and CNN are interviewing the same 8 people they always do to ask if they will still vote for Trump to rebut this ;)
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Yeah, we're overdue for our semi-annual report from the front lines of Real, Red-Blooded 'Murican Trump Country.
 
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