BC Women's Hockey 2024-2025: Embrace The Chaos

[Vintage Dublin]

Unfortunately your close personal friendship with the BC head coach makes it impossible to have an honest conversation about the state of the program. I know you don't honestly believe that the BCWIH program is in good hands and is headed in the right direction but I admire your loyalty as a friend.

FYI I speak to BC people and other women's ice hockey fans all the time and there isn't 1 person I have spoken with who is happy with what's going on with BCWIH. Not one. As a matter of fact, almost every conversation I have usually starts with " What's wrong with BCWIH?"

Haha I would hardly call it a close personal relationship but go ahead with your normal rhetoric. As I've said before, you have a personal vendetta. You have over 50 posts and how many are personal attacks on the coach? And, I know, you'll call me names, it's okay, as I said I'm old, I can take it. But at least Im not a keyboard warrior who hides my identity and constantly trashes people. Grant and I love BCWIH, and we stand behind the program, maybe just like I would always stand behind the local pro teams. They don't always win, sometimes they are terrible, but we wait and eventually good things happen......

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

I know you don't honestly believe that the BCWIH program is in good hands and is headed in the right direction

Sure I do. Our scoring is frontloaded with freshmen and sophomores (I think it's 60% of our goals or something?) and I'm pretty sure we've got a few USA/CAN U18s coming in as freshmen. We're in for a great couple years here. It's fine if you don't think so but suggestions of blowing it all up are just going to set the program back years when we're just going to have to find someone who will have to coach with the same institutional headwinds that Coach Crowley is dealing with.

your close personal friendship with the BC head coach

You keep saying this and I wish you'd stop. Do you really think we're close personal friends or is this just a tongue-in-cheek comment about how you don't think I can look at this objectively for some reason lol

You ask me why I think she's the right coach for the job. The youth in the program is a big factor, but the main overarching reason Crowley is the coach I want for us right now, in this moment, when we've been mid for a few years and have ourselves set up for future success with young talent is this:

She is the one who took us from nobody to power program after the Mutch situation. She is the one who brought us *back* to power program after we thought it was all over when Schaus/Stack/Thunstrom graduated. We've been in this situation before and she's brought us back to the top not once but twice. I would like the coach with experience rebuilding the program to be the one in charge of the rebuild (which is already well underway).

Just because I've been following the program since 2006 and have seen what Crowley's done as the coach doesn't mean I "can't have an honest conversation." It's exactly that history of following the program that makes my opinion carry some weight, I think.

Even you surely must admit that the freshmen and sophomores are impressive, particularly so towards the end of the season.

I will add lastly that I suppose I should be grateful that women's hockey is at a point where randos who don't follow the sport are showing up with no prior posting history shouting HURR DURR FIRE THE COACH!!!111!!11one!11! Every football and basketball message board for every major school has the same knuckledraggers who show up every year. So maybe this is a sign that we've finally made it as a sport!

 

[reggiedunlap9]

Haha I would hardly call it a close personal relationship but go ahead with your normal rhetoric. As I've said before, you have a personal vendetta. You have over 50 posts and how many are personal attacks on the coach? And, I know, you'll call me names, it's okay, as I said I'm old, I can take it. But at least Im not a keyboard warrior who hides my identity and constantly trashes people. Grant and I love BCWIH, and we stand behind the program, maybe just like I would always stand behind the local pro teams. They don't always win, sometimes they are terrible, but we wait and eventually good things happen......

Please I've never called you any names so grow up please and for the last time there is no personal vendetta. There are no personal attacks. I'm sure she is a wonderful person but she is a terrible hockey coach. Terrible.

How much longer do we have to watch this mediocrity for you to agree that we need to make a coaching change ? Another 10 years of top 10 finishes in the worst conference in the country ? You saw what BU did. We can be so much better

 

[reggiedunlap9]

Sure I do. Our scoring is frontloaded with freshmen and sophomores (I think it's 60% of our goals or something?) and I'm pretty sure we've got a few USA/CAN U18s coming in as freshmen. We're in for a great couple years here. It's fine if you don't think so but suggestions of blowing it all up are just going to set the program back years when we're just going to have to find someone who will have to coach with the same institutional headwinds that Coach Crowley is dealing with.


You keep saying this and I wish you'd stop. Do you really think we're close personal friends or is this just a tongue-in-cheek comment about how you don't think I can look at this objectively for some reason lol

You ask me why I think she's the right coach for the job. The youth in the program is a big factor, but the main overarching reason Crowley is the coach I want for us right now, in this moment, when we've been mid for a few years and have ourselves set up for future success with young talent is this:

She is the one who took us from nobody to power program after the Mutch situation. She is the one who brought us *back* to power program after we thought it was all over when Schaus/Stack/Thunstrom graduated. We've been in this situation before and she's brought us back to the top not once but twice. I would like the coach with experience rebuilding the program to be the one in charge of the rebuild (which is already well underway).

Just because I've been following the program since 2006 and have seen what Crowley's done as the coach doesn't mean I "can't have an honest conversation." It's exactly that history of following the program that makes my opinion carry some weight, I think.

Even you surely must admit that the freshmen and sophomores are impressive, particularly so towards the end of the season.

I will add lastly that I suppose I should be grateful that women's hockey is at a point where rondos who don't follow the sport are showing up with no prior posting history shouting HURR DURR FIRE THE COACH!!!111!!11one!11! Every football and basketball message board for every major school has the same knuckledraggers who show up every year. So maybe this is a sign that we've finally made it as a sport!

Do you really think we're close personal friends- yes i do

The youth in the program is a big factor, but the main overarching reason Crowley is the coach I want for us right now, in this moment, when we've been mid for a few years and have ourselves set up for future success with young talent is this: She doesn't develop talent. She has never been able to develop talent. That's why so many top players have left the program. This needs to stop or more top players will continue to leave.

She is the one who took us from nobody to power program after the Mutch situation. Sorry but things are a just a little different in 2025 women's hockey than they were 20 years ago !

rondos who don't follow the sport ? knuckledraggers ? Easy with the personal attacks again big guy. I know you're frustrated. I think its pretty obvious that I know a little bit about the sport and have every right to express my opinion. If this was the men's team it would be a different story. We need a new coach.

"Its not personal, sonny. Its only business"

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Do you really think we're close personal friends- yes i do

Well that's nice you think that, but as everyone knows who I am and knows I'm not close personal friends with the head coach, there's no real reason for me to belabor the point.

But, we all also suspect you've got personal beef. And as you are intentionally hiding your identity specifically because your identity would give away your connection to the program, I think it's pretty likely we're right.

randos who don't follow the sport ? knuckledraggers ? Easy with the personal attacks again big guy.

I was talking about the psycho football/basketball message board types and the men's hockey guys dipping in here but if the shoe fits wear it I guess.

I think its pretty obvious that I know a little bit about the sport

Not really, no. We don't know anything about you. You've been here two years and come across as a pissed off parent. We'll know when you aren't here anymore in a couple years I guess.

If this was the men's team it would be a different story.

Idk what this means.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Here is information on bc's incoming freshmen class...

Alaina Dunn - Defense... Was on the Team USA 2024 and 2025 rosters
Ava Thomas - Forward...Probably bc's best recruit in this class. Also a Team USA member in 2022,2023, and 2024.
Maxim Tembley - Forward... Canadian recruit from Stanstead College. Was originally a Colgate commit but changed to bc
Maddie Murphy - Defense... Was on the 2023 Team USA roster.

No question that this is a decent recruiting class.

Look, the issue is more about what other teams around the country are doing. bc's class would likely be considered middle of the pack in the WCHA and ECAC.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

bc's class would likely be considered middle of the pack in the WCHA and ECAC.

Idk about that lol... middle of the WCHA *maybe*. This wouldn't be a good recruiting class in the ECAC?

 

[thirdtime's . . .]

!!!111!!11one!11!

Hall of Fame nomination

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

lIdk about that lol... middle of the WCHA *maybe*. This wouldn't be a good recruiting class in the ECAC?

Take a look, if you care to, at the incoming freshmen for these ECAC teams... With the caveat that this is my opinion so take that for what its worth. These are freshmen classes that I would rate above bc's. Plus Harvard's is pretty darn good as well...right there with bc's. Below is a link to reference the freshmen classes.

https://www.cleansheethockey.com/databases/womens-ncaa-commitments

Clarkson
Colgate
Cornell
Princeton
Quinnipiac

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

Take a look, if you care to, at the incoming freshmen for these ECAC teams... With the caveat that this is my opinion so take that for what its worth. These are freshmen classes that I would rate above bc's. Plus Harvard's is pretty darn good as well...right there with bc's. Below is a link to reference the freshmen classes.

https://www.cleansheethockey.com/databases/womens-ncaa-commitments

Clarkson
Colgate
Cornell
Princeton
Quinnipiac

I mean, respectfully, I know nothing at all about any of these players, so I wouldn't know what I'm looking at here. I will say looking at some of these classes (Clarkson and Quinnipiac each with 11??? How is that even possible?) that being a huge class doesn't necessarily correlate with being a good class.

If you know high school hockey well enough to say that those schools' players are better than BC's then I'll have to defer to your judgement, because I wouldn't have the slightest idea. I've only even kind of looked into BC's players, and they sounded pretty sporty even by your own description.

By the way I'm pretty sure Tremblay was a Canada U18 as well.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

I mean, respectfully, I know nothing at all about any of these players, so I wouldn't know what I'm looking at here. I will say looking at some of these classes (Clarkson and Quinnipiac each with 11??? How is that even possible?) that being a huge class doesn't necessarily correlate with being a good class.

If you know high school hockey well enough to say that those schools' players are better than BC's then I'll have to defer to your judgement, because I wouldn't have the slightest idea. I've only even kind of looked into BC's players, and they sounded pretty sporty even by your own description.

By the way I'm pretty sure Tremblay was a Canada U18 as well.

Hey, if your happy with who bc has coming in then that is what matters as a fan. With playing in Hockey East that might not be saying much however...