At Least We Have the World Jrs. During Break

[JDUBBS1280]

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You should be more concerned about why we continue to produce as much or more NHL talent as you with half the population.

 

[jnacc]

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You should be more concerned about why we continue to produce as much or more NHL talent as you with half the population.

Only because we produce 3x the baseball players and 4x the basketball players than you do....Michigan is much much more than just hockey.....and no I won't worry about Minnesota and USA Hockey because I know that there will be no changes coming just like there has been no other state to leave USA Hockey.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Only because we produce 3x the baseball players and 4x the basketball players than you do....Michigan is much much more than just hockey.....and no I won't worry about Minnesota and USA Hockey because I know that there will be no changes coming just like there has been no other state to leave USA Hockey.

When I post evidence that MN Hockey has indeed pulled their Mites and Squirts, how about you take your Canadian friend and disappear to a CHL board and discuss how the projected 200,000 player drop in Hockey Canada's youth ranks is going to effect the CHL?

My guess is you won't acknowledge it and will disappear just like you did the last time we had a CHL vs NCAA discussion.

 

[jnacc]

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When I post evidence that MN Hockey has indeed pulled their Mites and Squirts, how about you take your Canadian friend and disappear to a CHL board and discuss how the projected 200,000 player drop in Hockey Canada's youth ranks is going to effect the CHL?

My guess is you won't acknowledge it and will disappear just like you did the last time we had a CHL vs NCAA discussion.

Typical...just typical.....he gets his *** handed to him by a Canadian so he then decides to try the Michigan guy......go away little fly before I swat out your meager existence.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Typical...just typical.....he gets his *** handed to him by a Canadian so he then decides to try the Michigan guy......go away little fly before I swat out your meager existence.

Got my *** handed to me? That's laughable. I'll get you your proof on Minnesota Hockey when it happens, then you can disappear. Because I know from experience that you don't have the class to admit you are wrong about something you were "almost positive" about.

As for the Canadian, he gave ZERO evidence to support his claim that we'd be better off with a CHL coach and players in the WJC. Can you?

Why don't you save us all some time and go dry hump Don Cherry and leave the college hockey discussion to those who enjoy it.

 

[joecct]

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Good luck getting insurance elsewhere at a cheaper price.....good luck getting into nationally recognized tournaments like the silver sticks....good luck working out liability costs with out of state teams when yours are not registered. No other state has pulled their associations out of USA Hockey and I would be shocked if Minnesota in fact does it....of course I don't believe they will.

As for youth registration, believe what you want...some people enjoy their own reality.....but reality is saying something completely different. At least USA Hockey is not in denial and is trying to do something about it.

Insurance: http://www.kandkinsurance.com/sites/sports/Pages/Home.aspx And I thought Edina pulled their Mites out of USAH a few years ago.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Insurance: http://www.kandkinsurance.com/sites/sports/Pages/Home.aspx And I thought Edina pulled their Mites out of USAH a few years ago.

Thanks. Edina was talking about it, but didn't. All of District 6 has wanted to for some time.

 

[joecct]

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Thanks. Edina was talking about it, but didn't. All of District 6 has wanted to for some time.

I also have a contact for background checks if you need that too. PM me.

 

[jnacc]

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Got my *** handed to me? That's laughable. I'll get you your proof on Minnesota Hockey when it happens, then you can disappear. Because I know from experience that you don't have the class to admit you are wrong about something you were "almost positive" about.

As for the Canadian, he gave ZERO evidence to support his claim that we'd be better off with a CHL coach and players in the WJC. Can you?

Why don't you save us all some time and go dry hump Don Cherry and leave the college hockey discussion to those who enjoy it.

Proof? From you? I can hardly wait......but why even discuss this with you, after your rendezvous with Cherry, there just isn't much left of you to play with.....

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Proof? From you? I can hardly wait......but why even discuss this with you, after your rendezvous with Cherry, there just isn't much left of you to play with.....

Regurgitating my insults now? Haha...

 

[jnacc]

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Regurgitating my insults now? Haha...

Ohhh not at all.....I'm just waiting for that documentation that you'll provide any minute now so I can run away......hey look tattoo it's the plane....it's the plane....

And next week on JDUBBS1280 fantasy Minnesota, he'll once again pretend that the proof is in the pudding!

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Ohhh not at all.....I'm just waiting for that documentation that you'll provide any minute now so I can run away......hey look tattoo it's the plane....it's the plane....

And next week on JDUBBS1280 fantasy Minnesota, he'll once again pretend that the proof is in the pudding!

Wait a minute, so you've been whining forever now to get your proof, and now you don't want it? Or are you just trying to slither out of looking like a complete jack off when I do provide it by trying to act like it proves nothing.

It will prove EVERYTHING because you just got done telling me you're "almost positive" it isn't happening. It will prove you completely talk out of your *** and have absolutely NO CLUE what your talking about. And most importantly, it will prove that you're a complete tool who can't admit when he's wrong.

 

[jnacc]

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Wait a minute, so you've been whining forever now to get your proof, and now you don't want it? Or are you just trying to slither out of looking like a complete jack off when I do provide it by trying to act like it proves nothing.

It will prove EVERYTHING because you just got done telling me you're "almost positive" it isn't happening. It will prove you completely talk out of your *** and have absolutely NO CLUE what your talking about. And most importantly, it will prove that you're a complete tool who can't admit when he's wrong.

Proof...prove....two words you use a lot yet have no idea what they mean....yes I'm still waiting for episode two on Fantasy Minnesota where the little mental midget looks up at the sky, sees the plane and then presents his "proof" of states that left USA Hockey......

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Proof...prove....two words you use a lot yet have no idea what they mean....yes I'm still waiting for episode two on Fantasy Minnesota where the little mental midget looks up at the sky, sees the plane and then presents his "proof" of states that left USA Hockey......

I wouldn't know where to begin looking for documentation for other states' programs, but I can provide documentation from my own when it happens.

And I've already proven your premise that all youth players in this country are registered with USA Hockey. Ask any Minnesotan on this board and they will tell you our high school hockey players have never registered.

USA Hockey's registration numbers are interesting, but they are not an absolute measure of how many youth hockey players are playing in this country.

And let's get back to the original point you were trying to make. Even if the point you are trying to make is true (which I have explained over and over that it is not), the "decline" in youth hockey registrations in the USA would still be TONS LESS than the 200,000 PLAYER drop in youth registrations that Hockey Canada is predicting.

200,000 Players

Let that sink in. That is over a 30% drop in the next 8 years.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Well, this thread has been useful for at least one thing. My suspicions were confirmed, Canadians aren't very smart.

 

[Vulcanized Rubber]

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I wouldn't know where to begin looking for documentation for other states' programs, but I can provide documentation from my own when it happens.

And I've already proven your premise that all youth players in this country are registered with USA Hockey. Ask any Minnesotan on this board and they will tell you our high school hockey players have never registered.

USA Hockey's registration numbers are interesting, but they are not an absolute measure of how many youth hockey players are playing in this country.

And let's get back to the original point you were trying to make. Even if the point you are trying to make is true (which I have explained over and over that it is not), the "decline" in youth hockey registrations in the USA would still be TONS LESS than the 200,000 PLAYER drop in youth registrations that Hockey Canada is predicting.

200,000 Players

Let that sink in. That is over a 30% drop in the next 8 years.

And the world will end in 2012

 

[jnacc]

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I wouldn't know where to begin looking for documentation for other states' programs, but I can provide documentation from my own when it happens.

And I've already proven your premise that all youth players in this country are registered with USA Hockey. Ask any Minnesotan on this board and they will tell you our high school hockey players have never registered.

USA Hockey's registration numbers are interesting, but they are not an absolute measure of how many youth hockey players are playing in this country.

And let's get back to the original point you were trying to make. Even if the point you are trying to make is true (which I have explained over and over that it is not), the "decline" in youth hockey registrations in the USA would still be TONS LESS than the 200,000 PLAYER drop in youth registrations that Hockey Canada is predicting.

200,000 Players

Let that sink in. That is over a 30% drop in the next 8 years.

Here's the difference between you and I.....I am a hockey fan, not just some regional supporter stuck in a provincial mindset like yourself. I want to see registration numbers rise world wide....the more players playing, the better the game will be every where!

How do you know what the absolute numbers playing hockey are? Do you presume to think that all Canadian players are registered with Hockey Canada....perhaps a sizable number are not? You and I can both make guesses, but that's just what they are.....opinions based on what we want to believe but may not be so....the evidence suggest something different, though....registrations are declining and participation in the game is stagnant at best.

I wish it were so that youth hockey was not declining, in both Canada and the U.S. (and my guess is Europe as well). We will just have to wait and see if this decline can be arrested or not.....hopefully it can....

Still waiting for that supposed "proof" on the number of states that left USA Hockey.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Here's the difference between you and I.....I am a hockey fan, not just some regional supporter stuck in a provincial mindset like yourself. I want to see registration numbers rise world wide....the more players playing, the better the game will be every where!

How do you know what the absolute numbers playing hockey are? Do you presume to think that all Canadian players are registered with Hockey Canada....perhaps a sizable number are not? You and I can both make guesses, but that's just what they are.....opinions based on what we want to believe but may not be so....the evidence suggest something different, though....registrations are declining and participation in the game is stagnant at best.

I wish it were so that youth hockey was not declining, in both Canada and the U.S. (and my guess is Europe as well). We will just have to wait and see if this decline can be arrested or not.....hopefully it can....

Still waiting for that supposed "proof" on the number of states that left USA Hockey.

I know they aren't absolute numbers because I know for a fact Minnesota doesn't register their high school players, I was told in a meeting that some other states have stopped registering their Mites, and we are currently discussing not registering our Mites or Squirts.

And again, because you felt so compelled to jump into this discussion in the defense of Hockey Canada, even if you are right (which you are not), and the numbers you posted from USA Hockey are a complete representation of all youth players in the USA (which it is not), you're still left with one problem.

It means little in the context of the discussion we are having. Hockey Canada's youth enrollments are projected (by Hockey Canada) to decline over 30% by 2020. Find me a source from USA Hockey that estimates our numbers will fall that much.

And I just love the fact that you're trying to throw provincial accusations back in my face. It's your default insult when you have nothing of consequence to say.

I enjoy all hockey, but I am here to talk about NCAA Hockey BECAUSE IT IS A NCAA HOCKEY BOARD. You act like I was the one who went to a CHL board and started telling Canadians that their WJC team would be better with an NCAA coach and more NCAA players. Wrong pal, it was the other way around.

And when I asked him to support his statement that the UNITED STATES would be better off at the WJC with a CHL coach and more CHL players, he couldn't produce ONE IOTA of evidence to support his argument.

All he did was start bashing USA Hockey and talk about how much better Hockey Canada is. Who was being provincial?

I then pointed out that his wonderful Hockey Canada is expecting a MASSIVE decline in youth numbers over the next 10 years and you came running to Hockey Canada's defense. However, as I pointed out, your argument is moot for two reasons.

1. The USA Hockey numbers you provided aren't a complete picture of youth hockey in the USA.

2. More importantly, even if they were, they come NOWHERE NEAR the decline Hockey Canada is predicting.

You bring up a good point about Hockey Canada's numbers not being complete either. That very well could be the case. In fact, I would bet it is.

However, 200,000 players? Don't get me wrong, I don't WANT to see Hockey Canada's youth numbers decline. I'm with you. The more players playing, regardless of where, the better. I just didn't appreciate him coming here and essentially telling us USA Hockey and the NCAA sucks.

 

[Vulcanized Rubber]

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Dubber a projected decline is just what it is. But where is the evidence it will decline by 200,000. What are those facts based on? The words of a minor official in a regional office in one obscure article? You should know there is always some sour puss up here who will dump on hockey at anytime, who thinks its too violent or expensive and that Canadian kids should be playing soccer or something.

Trust me with this my friend if there was going to be a projected decrease of 200,000 in minor hockey enrollment this would be HUGE news up here! It would be in every paper, there would be a government inquiry, it would be the topic on ever sports talk show. During the past WJC's in Alberta, Buffalo, Saskatoon and Ottawa Canadians packed arena's not just for Canadian games but everyone's games. The average Canadian spent thousands on ticket packages. Hockey in Canada is nowhere the elitist sport it is in the USA and every kid up here who wants to be a hockey player can be one. There are so many programs available to underprivileged kids. Canadian Tire, Royal Bank, Tim Hortons and others have national programs and at the local level I know a local car dealer who quietly pays underprivileged kids way. You can find someone in virtually every small town who does this.

Your other source was Emile Therrien who was past president of the Canadian safety council who has been saying the same things for years that hockey is too dangerous. He's another sour puss.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Dubber a projected decline is just what it is. But where is the evidence it will decline by 200,000. What are those facts based on? The words of a minor official in a regional office in one obscure article? You should know there is always some sour puss up here who will dump on hockey at anytime, who thinks its too violent or expensive and that Canadian kids should be playing soccer or something.

Trust me with this my friend if there was going to be a projected decrease of 200,000 in minor hockey enrollment this would be HUGE news up here! It would be in every paper, there would be a government inquiry, it would be the topic on ever sports talk show. During the past WJC's in Alberta, Buffalo, Saskatoon and Ottawa Canadians packed arena's not just for Canadian games but everyone's games. The average Canadian spent thousands on ticket packages. Every kid up here wants to be a hockey player. Hockey in Canada is nowhere the elitist sport it is in the USA.

I am just going by what I read. I haven't read anything from anyone else at Hockey Canada that disputes it, so I am just taking the guy at his word. In fact, when I retweeted the news, some of my Canadian followers agreed with it.

".... not surprising since the number of kids is going down in Canada. 1.7 kids per couple last year...” is but one example.

Again, I don't want to see the youth numbers for Hockey Canada decline, but didn't appreciate your comment that the United States would be better off with a CHL coach and more CHL players. My point was, you have other things you should be worrying about.

And in regards to that comment of yours, I still haven't seen one piece of evidence to support that assertation. How is it that you think the UNITED STATES would be better off with a CHL coach and players at the WJC?