Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
Jesus Fluking Christ. Sorry - thought that one was in play.
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At least seven killed at Fort Hood
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Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
or Bill Cinton.
or Keith Olberman.
or Chris Matthews.
or Bill Maher.
Etc, etc
or Bill Cinton.
or Keith Olberman.
or Chris Matthews.
or Bill Maher.
Etc, etc
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
It's Texas. Guns are sold in vending machines and given away at baby showers.
It's Texas. Guns are sold in vending machines and given away at baby showers.
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
You have to remember who you're dealing with here. I make the assumption about what any internet "F" stands for, just as I make the same assumption for any military acronym: SNAFU, BUFF, etc.
Thanks
Jesus Fluking Christ. Sorry - thought that one was in play.
You have to remember who you're dealing with here. I make the assumption about what any internet "F" stands for, just as I make the same assumption for any military acronym: SNAFU, BUFF, etc.
Thanks
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
Rest easy, folks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roberta-lee/fort-hood-when-stress-kil_b_349982.html
PuffHo has gotten to the bottom of things. Apparently, Major Nidal was just stressed out, and this has nothing to do whatsoever with his religion at all, not even a little. And if you think it does, you're just a raaaaaaacist.
Well, other than being a worldwide conspiracy of the Jooooooooos.
Rest easy, folks.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roberta-lee/fort-hood-when-stress-kil_b_349982.html
PuffHo has gotten to the bottom of things. Apparently, Major Nidal was just stressed out, and this has nothing to do whatsoever with his religion at all, not even a little. And if you think it does, you're just a raaaaaaacist.
Well, other than being a worldwide conspiracy of the Jooooooooos.
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
How many Muslim soldiers are enlisted in the various branches of the U.S. armed forces? How many have gone on shooting rampages against fellow soldiers this month? year? decade?
I'm not saying we should ignore whatever role religion might have played in this, or that we should ignore warning signs. But it also seems clear to me that the most direct cause of this event was that the guy simply went off the deep end.
If that's true, then why wouldn't we want to know more about how/why that happens? Even if it does seem squishy and liberal-y.
How many Muslim soldiers are enlisted in the various branches of the U.S. armed forces? How many have gone on shooting rampages against fellow soldiers this month? year? decade?
I'm not saying we should ignore whatever role religion might have played in this, or that we should ignore warning signs. But it also seems clear to me that the most direct cause of this event was that the guy simply went off the deep end.
If that's true, then why wouldn't we want to know more about how/why that happens? Even if it does seem squishy and liberal-y.
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
As I understand it, DOD estimates there are around 10 thousand Muslims on active duty, although many fewer than that, 3-4 thousand, have self identified (there is no requirement to tell anyone what, if any, religious preference a G.I. has).
This is the second incident in which an active duty member of the Army has murdered other soldiers based on Islamism. The first was Sgt. Akbar, who fragged and then shot at his officers in Kuwat. Two dead, about a dozen wounded. He's under sentence of death.
"Dr." Hasan is a far different case, both qualitatively and quantitatively. He is an officer. A highly trained professional. And if the reports we're hearing are true, gave off more than just a few suspicious vibes. He was canned from his job at Walter Reed (we don't yet know why because the files are confidential) but there are reports from his colleagues that he was in the habit of arguing with patients about their/our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There seems to be a pretty significant trail of evidence that, over time, he had become radicalized. The events of Thursday remind me of suicide bombers who make videos before their attacks. He gave away his possessions, including the Koran, attended services at his Mosque and had a visit from a stranger the morning of the killings (how badly do you think the FBI wants to identify that dude?). His behavior that day and at the processing center bespeaks deliberation, not someone "going off the deep end." I suspect the investigation will turn up additional evidence of his planning.
So the balancing act going forward is to respect our Muslim G.I.'s while answering the question of why this jihadi nutcake was allowed to remain in uniform and how many other jihadi nutcakes are out there. Remember, while "Dr." Hasan was firing those hundred or so rounds off last Thursday, he had no idea if he was killing other Muslims. In point of fact, he didn't care.
As I understand it, DOD estimates there are around 10 thousand Muslims on active duty, although many fewer than that, 3-4 thousand, have self identified (there is no requirement to tell anyone what, if any, religious preference a G.I. has).
This is the second incident in which an active duty member of the Army has murdered other soldiers based on Islamism. The first was Sgt. Akbar, who fragged and then shot at his officers in Kuwat. Two dead, about a dozen wounded. He's under sentence of death.
"Dr." Hasan is a far different case, both qualitatively and quantitatively. He is an officer. A highly trained professional. And if the reports we're hearing are true, gave off more than just a few suspicious vibes. He was canned from his job at Walter Reed (we don't yet know why because the files are confidential) but there are reports from his colleagues that he was in the habit of arguing with patients about their/our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There seems to be a pretty significant trail of evidence that, over time, he had become radicalized. The events of Thursday remind me of suicide bombers who make videos before their attacks. He gave away his possessions, including the Koran, attended services at his Mosque and had a visit from a stranger the morning of the killings (how badly do you think the FBI wants to identify that dude?). His behavior that day and at the processing center bespeaks deliberation, not someone "going off the deep end." I suspect the investigation will turn up additional evidence of his planning.
So the balancing act going forward is to respect our Muslim G.I.'s while answering the question of why this jihadi nutcake was allowed to remain in uniform and how many other jihadi nutcakes are out there. Remember, while "Dr." Hasan was firing those hundred or so rounds off last Thursday, he had no idea if he was killing other Muslims. In point of fact, he didn't care.
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Slap Shot
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It's now alleged his mother attended a mosque attended by two members of the 9/11 team and that he claimed Islam supercedes the U.S. Constitution. I imagine the warning signals do not end here, so why the eff was this guy still in uniform?
It's now alleged his mother attended a mosque attended by two members of the 9/11 team and that he claimed Islam supercedes the U.S. Constitution. I imagine the warning signals do not end here, so why the eff was this guy still in uniform?
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
I suspect political correctness, inertia and incompetence all played a role here. This is going to get scarier before we're done.
I suspect political correctness, inertia and incompetence all played a role here. This is going to get scarier before we're done.
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
He's an MD, and he went to the military's med school. They try to retain these guys like grim death. I'd be almost surprised if they didn't give him a "pass" for this BS ...
He's an MD, and he went to the military's med school. They try to retain these guys like grim death. I'd be almost surprised if they didn't give him a "pass" for this BS ...
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?
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Worked for Vito Corleone, but his outfit was way smaller than the Army.
Worked for Vito Corleone, but his outfit was way smaller than the Army.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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"Tell Mike I always liked him. It was just business."
Worked for Vito Corleone, but his outfit was way smaller than the Army.
"Tell Mike I always liked him. It was just business."
Re: At least seven killed at Fort Hood
Yeah, I'll be sure to pass that along. Meantime, get into the car, meat.
Yeah, I'll be sure to pass that along. Meantime, get into the car, meat.
