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ASU Hockey

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Ok, I'll bite. Why is it not good news?

Ya. I would think the fact that they're still open to a smaller on-campus arena would be a good thing. Or any on-campus arena. A few months ago they were talking about just making an agreement to play at Gila River or wherever the Suns play. Compared to that this story sounds like good news for ASU to me.
 
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Ya. I would think the fact that they're still open to a smaller on-campus arena would be a good thing. Or any on-campus arena. A few months ago they were talking about just making an agreement to play at Gila River or wherever the Suns play. Compared to that this story sounds like good news for ASU to me.

I believe Gila River will be the site of some if not most games next year, through an agreement with the Coyotes, from what I have heard. The joint venture with the Coyotes is still on the table, but it didn't sound as air tight in the article as what was reported here a few weeks ago. But either way, a new facility is moving forward and that is a positive. The initial story about a joint Coyotes/ASU Arena would be on campus on what is currently the school golf course. Should be interesting to see what develops over the next few months.
 
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I think the bad news is the part about 18-24 month start date. Meaning no facility for potentially 4-5 years
 
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I think the bad news is the part about 18-24 month start date. Meaning no facility for potentially 4-5 years

ASU is in the midst of a $250 million project on the football stadium. My guess is that we play most games at Gila River Arena for the next few seasons. Even though the Coyotes lease will be up at the end of next year, the new arena manager is AEG (owner of the LA Kings), so my guess is they both play there for a few seasons. We get very little hockey talk in this sports saturated market, so the AD going on record is very positive.
 
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Looks like BC and Michigan will be on the schedule next season according to a tweet from one of the beat writers for the team. Also, it was confirmed that most games, if not all, will be at Gila River next season. Hoping one of the two series with BC or Michigan will be at home.
 
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UW-Eau Claire was a little tougher than "D2" Southern New Hampshire, eh?

Attendance at Gila for the ASU tournament wasn't too hot, and it also looked like there were still some seats available at Oceanside for last weekends series. This makes me think that the 5,000 seat multi-use, on campus arena would be the very best option (if they're able to make it happen.)
 
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UW-Eau Claire was a little tougher than "D2" Southern New Hampshire, eh?

Attendance at Gila for the ASU tournament wasn't too hot, and it also looked like there were still some seats available at Oceanside for last weekends series. This makes me think that the 5,000 seat multi-use, on campus arena would be the very best option (if they're able to make it happen.)

The WEC games were both sold a week prior to the games. Now the building holds only 700-750, so with some now shows you get what was in there. It was a competitive weekend and very evenly matched. But we had all of one year to build this deal, so it was not that unexpected. We had over 5,000 for the first day at Gila and about 3,500 for the second day. Gila is a long way from campus and in an area that is not the greatest for sports dollars. Which is why the Coyotes are looking to move back to the easy valley. With ASU going out there next year, they will need to be creative to get a draw from students. I think once established we could average between 3,500 and 4,000 a night, sprinkling in larger crowds for bigger games. But that could be greater if the students grab onto the product. I agree on the smaller arena being ideal, but my gut tells me it will be the joint venture with the Coyotes on campus. The complex of businesses, restaurants, etc that is being built on that area of campus is impressive and the Coyotes would be a great piece to add.
 
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UW-Eau Claire was a little tougher than "D2" Southern New Hampshire, eh?

Attendance at Gila for the ASU tournament wasn't too hot, and it also looked like there were still some seats available at Oceanside for last weekends series. This makes me think that the 5,000 seat multi-use, on campus arena would be the very best option (if they're able to make it happen.)
Having a 5000-8000 seat on/near campus arena is by far your best bet. Sharing an arena with the Coyotes isn't what you want, at least long term. You don't want to be playing in front of crowds of a few thousand in an NHL capacity arena. It just won't be a very good atmosphere.
 
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Nope RIT has been asking for the rules to be changed so we can be like RPI and Clarkson and allowed to offer scholarships since no other DIII schools can be a DI play up in single sport. DII is not financially smart for RIT right now any way. There are a lot of DIII programs close by we can play without having to spend money on hotels. That wouldn't be the case in DII which would mean more money on traveling for sports that don't draw like our hockey teams do now or did before we moved up.

If RIT could ever get an exception to the rule to allow scholarships, that would be the best scenario. However, I'm sure even just moving to a conference like the ECAC would be deemed as a great improvement over out current situation. While I'd love to see RIT move up to all D1, that's definitely the last and least likely scenario.
 
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A Power(s) Trip leads to Chaos in the ASU Dressing Room

There is most definitely something weird going on in the Sun Devil Dressing room these days. I spoke with some very credible sources in the ASU Hockey World this past weekend who had some very interesting stories to share. Schmidt and Zucarrinni are no longer ASU Sun Devils which is old news by now but leads to all the new rumors. Masters is threatening to leave after he was asked to stay home from a recent road trip and is considering other College options at this time and has convinced a close teammate or 2 to consider using the same option. Other top players are not happy with Powers Chaotic approach and are weighing their options.

All three Captains were recently stripped of their C's and subsequently given to Newmeyer who was a healthy scratch on Saturday evening???
 
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A Power(s) Trip leads Chaos in the ASU Dressing Room

There is most definitely something weird going on in the Sun Devil Dressing room these days. I spoke with some very credible sources in the ASU Hockey World this past weekend who had some very interesting stories to share. Schmidt and Zucarrinni are no longer ASU Sun Devils which is old news by now but leads to all the new rumors. Masters is threatening to leave after he was asked to stay home from a recent road trip and is considering other College options at this time and has convinced a close teammate or 2 to consider using the same option. Other top players are not happy with Powers Chaotic approach and are weighing their options.

All three Captains were recently stripped of their C's and subsequently given to Newmeyer who was a healthy scratch on Saturday evening???

It always seemed odd to not find a coach with D1 experience.
 
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Having a 5000-8000 seat on/near campus arena is by far your best bet. Sharing an arena with the Coyotes isn't what you want, at least long term. You don't want to be playing in front of crowds of a few thousand in an NHL capacity arena. It just won't be a very good atmosphere.

This.
Ya'll really don't want to model after OSU playing @Value City.
 
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This.
Ya'll really don't want to model after OSU playing @Value City.
It is certainly a great idea to attempt to build a relationship by continuing to build the Desert Hockey Classic, but beyond that, I completely agree, you need the on-campus rink to draw your students and have an atmosphere...its highly unlikely you ever draw enough to make an NHL rink not seem empty...
 
It always seemed odd to not find a coach with D1 experience.

Yes. Thought this all along.

I do not know coach Powers, but I think you always have to be careful about having a coach who may want to live out his personal glory through his players. Don't know if that's the case here, but I'd be willing to bet Powers wishes/wished ASU was NCAA D1 during his playing days there.

Penn State did it right, and their old club coach was legendary...
 
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A Power(s) Trip leads Chaos in the ASU Dressing Room

There is most definitely something weird going on in the Sun Devil Dressing room these days. I spoke with some very credible sources in the ASU Hockey World this past weekend who had some very interesting stories to share. Schmidt and Zucarrinni are no longer ASU Sun Devils which is old news by now but leads to all the new rumors. Masters is threatening to leave after he was asked to stay home from a recent road trip and is considering other College options at this time and has convinced a close teammate or 2 to consider using the same option. Other top players are not happy with Powers Chaotic approach and are weighing their options.

All three Captains were recently stripped of their C's and subsequently given to Newmeyer who was a healthy scratch on Saturday evening???
Doesn't sound like a good situation. What happened to Zucarrinni? I was looking for him when ASU played Lowell. He had real good numbers in the BCHL and figured he must be hurt since he wasn't in the lineup.
 
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Having a 5000-8000 seat on/near campus arena is by far your best bet. Sharing an arena with the Coyotes isn't what you want, at least long term. You don't want to be playing in front of crowds of a few thousand in an NHL capacity arena. It just won't be a very good atmosphere.

For me, you would have to engineer a situation where the lower bowl holds about that much AND you can use some sort of technology that makes it seem like the higher bowl isn't there... good luck.
 
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Starting the program too quickly without enough homework, no conference affiliation, an under qualified head coach, no set plans for a suitable place to play...

At some point other D1 schools are going to look at a map and ASU is going to be screwed.

But hey, did the big $$ donor's son at least get to dress in a NCAA D1 game? Then it was all worth it...

The no conference affiliation isn't an issue, the other 3 are big deals. The conference will come, no real reason to rush that, the lack of forethought in preparing for the transition and bringing in a coach worth something whether is a George Gwozdecky, Carey Eades, or even someone like a Jamie Russell or Dave Shyiak? Recruiting to Arizona in general should be pretty easy, but the coaching, understanding travel, etc seems above what anyone should expect from a club coach. There were plenty of options out there...from all the coaches who have D1 experience that would love another chance to the other coaches that have better experience than Powers that would have loved the chance to build their own program.

Maybe ultimately this came down to the donor and his son and getting things started and then refreshing things after that...
 
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The whole "recruiting to ASU is easy" thing is a pile of steaming Eaves. ASU will really never become a destination for top end recruits. Arizona is not hockey in any shape matter or form. You can talk about weather, girls, parties, etc. End of the day players want to play in places that are associated with hockey, it will always be a last resort. there will always be 54 other programs that a player will consider before ASU. It was a nice rich guy experiment. Baseball or Golf, that's another story :)
 
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The whole "recruiting to ASU is easy" thing is a pile of steaming Eaves. ASU will really never become a destination for top end recruits. Arizona is not hockey in any shape matter or form. You can talk about weather, girls, parties, etc. End of the day players want to play in places that are associated with hockey, it will always be a last resort. there will always be 54 other programs that a player will consider before ASU. It was a nice rich guy experiment. Baseball or Golf, that's another story :)

For the record, a note from UAA Alumnus Justin Bourne: http://www.jtbourne.com/college-student/
My college teammate Charlie Kronschnabel and I were road roommates. Many a night after a 20 hour travel day to somewhere miserable (read: North Dakota, Michigan, or worse, Fairbanks, Alaska) we’d sit in our room and daydream about a normal college life. We’d joke about quitting WCHA hockey and going to play club hockey for Arizona State University.

We figured we’d easily be the best players in the league (so partying the night before games would be no problem), and it would be hotter than Marisa Miller so we could chuck around a frisbee in shorts and hit on girls. But nooo, college hockey is sooooooo cool, heaven forbid we make that choice… idiots.

He's admitted on Twitter to it a few times as well, and said that fellow teammates had similar thoughts.
 
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