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Arizona Congressman Gabrielle Giffords Apparantly Survives Assassination Attempt

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Rover was way more fun than you guys. Whatever happened to him? Plus, you should give 5mn time to wind up before you state these things out in the open. He's probably as angry as Rover, just not as quick on the keyboard.

Naw, there's at least a little sense in what 5mn says. By contrast, Rover doesn't even pretend to try to make sense.
 
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I had to look up Bremer. That guy had a bad publicist.

He had that same "somebodypleaseanswerthatphone" look on his face as Loughner. I later edited in the name Patler, the guy who killed George Lincoln Rockwell, pride of Brown and the Marines.
 
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It's all the fault of Sarah Palin!

Palin has replaced G W Bush as the contemporary scapegoat by the liberals.

It snow 20 inches yesterday, it's Sarah Palin's fault!

Seriously, why is the left so threatened by a conservative woman? Even if you do not believe in what she believe in the same values as she does (God, family, guns-n-hunting) why lambaste her?
 
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It's all the fault of Sarah Palin!

Palin has replaced G W Bush as the contemporary scapegoat by the liberals.

It snow 20 inches yesterday, it's Sarah Palin's fault!

Seriously, why is the left so threatened by a conservative woman? Even if you do not believe in what she believe in the same values as she does (God, family, guns-n-hunting) why lambaste her?

Why is the right so obsessed with the persecution comple?
 
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Come on though, setting this incident aside so we don't delve back in "blood libel" and all that, don't you think it's a little weird the fixation people have with Palin? Especially considering her resume (or lack of one?)
 
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Come on though, setting this incident aside so we don't delve back in "blood libel" and all that, don't you think it's a little weird the fixation people have with Palin? Especially considering her resume (or lack of one?)

Tell you what. If you can explain to me how Michelle Bachmann gets voted into office every two years then I'll explain the Palin thing to you?

Deal?
 
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Tell you what. If you can explain to me how Michelle Bachmann gets voted into office every two years then I'll explain the Palin thing to you?

Deal?

Because she's the Republican candidate in an R+7 district?
 
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Because she's the Republican candidate in an R+7 district?

Not good enough, but fair enough. People are fixated on Palin because she's a rock star. There's no other way to put it. Some people just "attract" other people to them. And her political viewpoints are so "radical" to the base left that they salivate every time she says something stupid.

Many in the base left WANT her to run for President and win the nomination. Why? Cause she is so polarizing she has .00001% chance of winning a general election. So, the left elevates her whenever they can because they think it helps them.

The right is no different. They elevate the people they find vile because it is to their benefit. At least this is what I see.
 
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Palin? I'd at least spot her 0.5% for the presidency.
 
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Not good enough, but fair enough...

Well hey, you said explain, not justify. ;)

As to the rest of your argument, fair enough I suppose, for the base left at least. I'm talking more about the media at large. I mean, in recent 2012 polls, Obama beats her by something like 58-33, big numbers like that. So why does she get such attention?
 
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Only one freaky poster who has been taking notes on me and has asked to meet me in person.

Ignoring the second half of that which completely ignores the context in which it was said, I have to admit you're right. I have been taking notes on you. Have a whole closet full of them. My staff hopes to have them converted to electronic files soon, though. We're running short on space.

Since you're confused as usual, I'll make it clear I actually have no desire to meet you. Well, unless of course you want to tag team an Adriatic cruise with me. Then perhaps I shall reconsider.
 
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Palin? I'd at least spot her 0.5% for the presidency.

On a serious note, I have a $20 bet going with a guy at work. He's a lefty who is absolutely certain she wins the GOP nomination. I say no way in hell. Upshot is that if she does I won't have to worry about paying the $20 as I'll already have offed myself.
 
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I particularly like the connotation that they are buried deep in the ground, cut off from the rest of reality, and hardened against attack. That describes the closed-minded, paranoid environment of both Fox News and talk radio perfectly, and for a few other sources (Kos, MSNBC) it's a very good fit.

I heard that
 
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don't you think it's a little weird the fixation people have with Palin? Especially considering her resume (or lack of one?)

i dont think it is weird at all; because i think that is the point. how does someone rise to having such political capital within their own party despite having accomplished so little? or to put it in college hockey terms, say 50% of the country thought the D-3 kid who murdered someone should win the hobey baker.. dont you think it would be reasonable for the other 50% to think they were on crack?

mccain was seen as too moderate and the GOP wanted a VP candidate that appealed to the base. sure there were plenty of options out there, but the GOP thought they would get creative and jump on the opportunity to steal undecided women voters away from the democrats immediately after obama beat clinton in the primary. obviously the move backfired - probably because that campaign probably had no chance to begin with. Palin's star was never higher then right after her thrilling scripted RNC speech - ever since she has proved herself to be a hypocritical, bumbling fool each and every time she opens her mouth - to the point where her approval rating is in the tank, people within her own party are questioning her legitimacy, and (as astutely mentioned) the left is now running toward her instead of away from her because she is her own worst enemy at this point.
 
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mccain was seen as too moderate and the GOP wanted a VP candidate that appealed to the base..
Thats what the thinking was?, I'd say McCain was seen as someone way past his prime and as some one who was owed a chance after all these years. Palin was brought in as someone youthful and made for TV(at least until she talked)
 
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i dont think it is weird at all; because i think that is the point. how does someone rise to having such political capital within their own party despite having accomplished so little? or to put it in college hockey terms, say 50% of the country thought the D-3 kid who murdered someone should win the hobey baker.. dont you think it would be reasonable for the other 50% to think they were on crack?

mccain was seen as too moderate and the GOP wanted a VP candidate that appealed to the base. sure there were plenty of options out there, but the GOP thought they would get creative and jump on the opportunity to steal undecided women voters away from the democrats immediately after obama beat clinton in the primary. obviously the move backfired - probably because that campaign probably had no chance to begin with. Palin's star was never higher then right after her thrilling scripted RNC speech - ever since she has proved herself to be a hypocritical, bumbling fool each and every time she opens her mouth - to the point where her approval rating is in the tank, people within her own party are questioning her legitimacy, and (as astutely mentioned) the left is now running toward her instead of away from her because she is her own worst enemy at this point.

What he said!
 
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