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An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

Rover- Is this the part where your mother should have told you to win with class, lose with class? Gloating is counter-productive. How about figuring out how to make the thing work?
 
Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

When do my health insurance premiums go down?
 
Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

leswp1 said:
Rover- Is this the part where your mother should have told you to win with class, lose with class? Gloating is counter-productive. How about figuring out how to make the thing work?
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Tempting, though. Admit it. ;)

I have no idea what's on Rover's mind (most of the time :p ), but since the letter was addressed to the knuckledraggers I think he's just rubbing glass in the eyes of the twits who wouldn't debate honestly even with a gun to their head. The vast middle who have sincere questions about the reform, and even many who fought on the other side but in good faith, nobody has a problem with. It's just that thin film of detritus on the edge that can never be happy with anything short of Sherman's March to assuage their lack of self-worth that get the occasional el-kabong. :)
 
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Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

I was excited to hear they are going to pay for yearly physicals for Medicare. This is really big! They were only paying for 1 in a lifetime and only in the 1st 6 months of enrollment. After that they made the person pay and if they didn't get one we had $ withheld because they weren't getting good care but they couldn't afford to come. This is HUGE!

Other exciting things that should save $ in the long haul- slow closing of the donut hole. Way too many of the people with multiple dx and meds were just stopping their meds because they could not afford the $ when they hit the donut hole. Mucho dollars spent when they became unstable and hospitalized.

The no exclusion provision is another one that is going to save in the long run as hopefully these people won't be presenting o the ER in Crisis with illness that costs us huge money becaue they weren't treated when it could have been handled in a less costly way. Happening for the next few yrs so it will take a bit but the kids will be right away.

Not happy with the whole thing but am ecstatic about the physical provision. This has had many of my elderly patients in a tizzy for a few yrs- ever since they decided that we HAD to charge them for the PE and we couldn't code the illnesses and have that be included in the care. If we did code that way we were threatened with charge of fraud.
 
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Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

walrus said:
When do my health insurance premiums go down?
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!

Whew.......eh........err..........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

They don't. Surprise! Back-door tax increase for any paying their own insurance premiums. Pun intended.
 
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leswp1 said:
I was excited to hear they are going to pay for yearly physicals for Medicare. This is really big! They were only paying for 1 in a lifetime and only in the 1st 6 months of enrollment. After that they made the person pay and if they didn't get one we had $ withheld because they weren't getting good care but they couldn't afford to come. This is HUGE!
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Who is "they"?
 
Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

solovsfett said:
spending lowers deficits? what school did you go too?

and plante26 is right on.

You want GOP answers - ending slavery, winning WWII (Ike), freeing the Soviet Bloc (Peace through strength, "mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall"), more votes for the civil rights act, etc.

F Roosevelt extended the depression with his social welfare policies and he was saved by WWII.

Jack Kennedy may have inadvertently backed off the soviets from Cuba, but in the process allowed thousands of Cubans to die at the bay of pigs after backing off his promise to them of air support.

let's just talk about today.

Obama - mr. smartest president to ever be elected.
Iran in our faces with their nuclear reactor, working with Russia with absolutely no fear of discipline or reprisal from the U.S. Would never happen under a strong GOP president.

Telling Israel that in effect we care more about the palestinian cause than their cause, thereby fracturing an alliance and friendship that has lasted since 1948 would never happen under a strong GOP president. EVER.

And I assume Rover, you were one who was yelling that George Bush (who I am NOT a fan of) alienated our allies by not listening to them....

well, Che Obama has alienated the same only with his arrogance and conceit. He practically won't even talk to these leaders.

Unemployment is at 10% nationally and this idealogue instead of focusing on jobs focuses on his Alinskyite quest for national healthcare that won't just ruin the best healthcare system in the world (see doctors leaving the field, see higher premiums, see rationing, and more), but bankrupt our shrinking private sector as he's already set-out to destroy what's left of it.

Is there anything Obama is doing that is not dividing the country, trashing the constitution, and destroying wealth?

Whomever the next president is, they're going to find out what these 350 unelected czar-type's have been up too and boot their asses into jail.

and to stuff the justice department with lawyers who defended gitmo detainees (when you've got a recidivism rate that's at least 20-25% that we know of, that is those caught re-fighting the war against us)

apologizing for the U.S. (thanks Saul)

give me a break. I know you're trying to get a rise out of some of us but how about giving this clown in office a serious look and some serious scrutiny
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You better hope that you aren't first in line for a death panel review because they will definitely determine that you should be put down. Your complete lack of any cognitive ability or any rational thought makes you totally worthless.

Oh, I forgot, there are no death panels. Boner and Mitch McTurtle made that up. I guess you're safe.
 
Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

You know what I haven't had in awhile? Big League Chew.
 
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ComoSeDiceHockey said:
You better hope that you aren't first in line for a death panel review because they will definitely determine that you should be put down. Your complete lack of any cognitive ability or any rational thought makes you totally worthless.

Oh, I forgot, there are no death panels. Boner and Mitch McTurtle made that up. I guess you're safe.
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You better stay away from all the big medical centers, specialty hospitals and any hospital with a good reputation as they all have had ethics review boards for what is appropriate treatment for at least the last 30 years (can't speak before that as I wasn't practicing then). The law just makes sure that they keep you in the discussion and that they get reimbursed for the discussion. Try a rural, backwater place. You'll be fine.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Wait, that's a bad thing?
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I suppose it depends on the person and the people surrounding them. All I know is that the one I just let out isn't any fun, and I can't imagine it being any better in a church.
 
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ComoSeDiceHockey said:
You better hope that you aren't first in line for a death panel review because they will definitely determine that you should be put down. Your complete lack of any cognitive ability or any rational thought makes you totally worthless.

Oh, I forgot, there are no death panels. Boner and Mitch McTurtle made that up. I guess you're safe.
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if you want to bring me a logical argument bring it. and I'll debate with facts. you wanna keep name-calling bill maher stuff there's nothing to be done for you.

funny how when one brings up these points certain people go scanners....hit pretty closer there chewie?
 
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solovsfett said:
you wanna keep name-calling bill maher stuff there's nothing to be done for you.

funny how when one brings up these points certain people go scanners....hit pretty closer there chewie?
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Pot, there's a kettle on line 2 for you.
 
Re: An Open Letter To All USCHO Crackpots and Knuckledraggers - by Rover

Obama said I was going to save 2500 bucks a year on my health insurance, when do I get the money?
 
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solovsfett said:
that's original. bring the real debate. I'm ready
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I'd be happy to debate you. It'd be easy to knock down your arguments, but just listing every grievance you have that you heard on clusterFox news isn't an argument. You're just ****ed that you lost and you're venting.

I was actully going to repsond to your list but the gitmo lawyers was the last straw. Not even the wingiest of wingnuts actually believes that. It's a none issue. Liz Cheney fabricated that issue and was immediatley condmened as totally wrong by almost all of Bush's justice dept lawyers. Quite simply, you can't be taken seriously.
 
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ComoSeDiceHockey said:
I'd be happy to debate you. It'd be easy to knock down your arguments, but just listing every grievance you have that you heard on clusterFox news isn't an argument. You're just ****ed that you lost and you're venting.

I was actully going to repsond to your list but the gitmo lawyers was the last straw. Not even the wingiest of wingnuts actually believes that. It's a none issue. Liz Cheney fabricated that issue and was immediatley condmened as totally wrong by almost all of Bush's justice dept lawyers. Quite simply, you can't be taken seriously.
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Like I said. I'm waiting for a real debate. I'm ready.
bring it.

not this, I was gonna, then I was gonna but you broke the last straw by pizzing me off with something I totally disagree with.

get real. I have 1/2 a family that escaped Cuba to get away from statism and I could tell you exactly why this bill is bad not only on it's face as a stand-alone (leaving my belief about Obama being a stalinist aside for a moment), but in context with the history of this country and our neighbor 90 miles south.

so again, throw invectives at me fine. that's not debate.

I'd rather debate.

as for Liz Cheney, I'm not going to buy your argument. There are 8-9 detainees lawyers now in our justice department. You think I need to be out on a limb to see that fact? Van Jones (communist)? Eric Holder (terrorist lawyer, look it up).

So bring the debate and we'll have at it.

read through my posts, if I hurl invectives it's against pols. not some nameless faceless person I'll never meet because I've got the guard of a screen name and that anonymity
 
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