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wrong again, Trilly. You too must be a Canadian Univ. grad w/o a clue. Hard to argue with a 3rd grade education. Sorry you just don't get it...I'll try to write slower so you can follow along.

Still, none of you has even tried to argue the point [because you can't]....Why, in a non-revenue sport are U.S. colleges filling their rosters 50% or more with carpetbaggers?
Please let me know why this is not happening in other sports, for example college Soccer [where the rest of the world is miles ahead of the U.S. and therefore you would expect most rosters to be 90% non-U.S players]?? Please, genius, just answer that one.

[Go B.C.....way to go Ms. King!]

I've asked you 3 times now, brilliant one, for an answer to this question but you refuse. Why coward? Why can't you answer my question if you have all the answers. You can't handle the truth! ;) Also, Jethro, your 3rd grade comment was priceless. At least he made it straight through the 6th grade. :D
 
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True dat, but the wasting of his tax dollars which he professes are his top concern, are going to heavily subsidize the US automakers.
True as well, but that did directly benefit a very large number of American workers in many auto manufacturing related industries by keeping them on the job as opposed to unemployed.

About as far afield of the topic as we need to go I'd say. ;)
 
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True as well, but that did directly benefit a very large number of American workers in many auto manufacturing related industries by keeping them on the job as opposed to unemployed.

Absolutely. I wasn't intending to imply that subsidizing the automakers with tax dollars to save jobs was a waste....rather that after having done so, his then spending his money on buying two Hondas instead, resulted in some wastage on that subsidy, much like he feels universities are also doing.

About as far afield of the topic as we need to go I'd say. ;)

Also in complete agreement. How's the weather in Minnesota? ;)

Or is it only Canadians who always talk about the weather?
 
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Absolutely. I wasn't intending to imply that subsidizing the automakers with tax dollars to save jobs was a waste....rather that after having done so, his then spending his money on buying two Hondas instead, resulted in some wastage on that subsidy, much like he feels universities are also doing.
Are we sure he's not driving a Toyota with a stuck accelerator? ;)
How's the weather in Minnesota? ;)

Or is it only Canadians who always talk about the weather?
You mean you didn't know that talking about the weather is the #1 hobby of 98.4% of Minnesotans? :p And it's absolutely gorgeous. :D
 
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Still, none of you has even tried to argue the point [because you can't]....Why, in a non-revenue sport are U.S. colleges filling their rosters 50% or more with carpetbaggers?
Please let me know why this is not happening in other sports, for example college Soccer [where the rest of the world is miles ahead of the U.S. and therefore you would expect most rosters to be 90% non-U.S players]??

Most have not answered, since you start denigrating any person who disagrees with you rather than debating the issue.

I'll answer your question with the slim hope you rebut only with valid points about the answers as opposed to laying down another diatribe.

I happen to have dual citizenship, one from an elite soccer country in Europe, the other from Canada, a nation where hockey is THE national pastime.

Soccer is huge sport in Europe, and the country I'm from is considered one of the premier places in the world for development off soccer talent at the youth level. Our national squad is often one of the favorites in the World Cup, and players from abroad attend soccer academies there. The top end youths are signed up to the junior (u18) squads associated with the Pro Club teams at age 15 or 16 (there is no draft). The junior club readies these players for the professional level, where they will start with the main club at age 18-19, sometime as young as 16. They will play pro for a couple of years with their home club either on the main team or the taxi squad. Very Often the real top end talent is sold for MAJOR BUCKS to the elite teams in mostly England, Italy, Spain and Germany. It would never cross any of these players minds to go to college overseas to play soccer. They see the US and Canada as a place where soccer is far inferior to what they can learn in Europe or South America.

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The soccer explanation above applies to the mens game. The US is THE dominant nation in soccer on the womens side. Europe is typically behind North America in the development of sports on the female side.


I'm sure if college coaches in soccer could get their hands on a few top end European kids, they would jump at the chance. Some 18-20 year old soccer players make millions of Euros. International star players like Romario from Brazil and Messi from Argentina were playing in Europe, starting at a very young age, as young as 16.

In the Hockey world, the reality is that the vast majority of grass roots players are from the US, Canada and Russia. While Sweden and Finland have players in some numbers as well it is still less than 10% compared to the US or Canada. You will not find a whole lot of Russians looking for a US college to attend. The good Russian juniors either play in the KGL or Major Junior in Canada. Same holds true for the Chechs, Slovaks etc. They will play in the AHL after their draft, or in some case head back to the KGL in Russia or their home senior league.

There are simply very few quality Russian female hockey players. So that leaves the odd Finn and Swede to fill the college ranks at the womens game, along with the usual staple of Canadians and Americans. Unlike Europeans, many Canadians dream of that US scholarship. Many young players, whether they be soccer players, hockey players, lacrosse etc, are exposed to this dream fairly early in their playing days if they play at the top tier.

Hockey is one of the few sports were Canada sports bigger numbers and more depth than the US, so that translates to more high quality Canadian players available for the D1 recruiters. The US is much deeper in their soccer talent pool compared to Canada, hence a lot less Canadians percentage wise take on spots in soccer. In addition, hockey has one of the HIGHEST percentages of allowable scholarships in the NCAA. 18.5 schollies per typical roster of 24.

I'm sure there are some other factors contributing.
 
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Are we sure he's not driving a Toyota with a stuck accelerator? ;)

:D :D

You mean you didn't know that talking about the weather is the #1 hobby of 98.4% of Minnesotans? :p And it's absolutely gorgeous. :D

Isn't it! The tulips, spring magnolias, cherry blossoms etc are out here now. Absolutely beautiful :)
 
Re: Americans-Canadians

wrong again, Trilly. You too must be a Canadian Univ. grad w/o a clue. Hard to argue with a 3rd grade education. Sorry you just don't get it...I'll try to write slower so you can follow along.

Still, none of you has even tried to argue the point [because you can't]....Why, in a non-revenue sport are U.S. colleges filling their rosters 50% or more with carpetbaggers?
Please let me know why this is not happening in other sports, for example college Soccer [where the rest of the world is miles ahead of the U.S. and therefore you would expect most rosters to be 90% non-U.S players]?? Please, genius, just answer that one.

[Go B.C.....way to go Ms. King!]

How about the simple fact that it makes the U.S. players good enough to play at the college level that much better to be playing with and against the best eligible players from all over the world rather than a watered down talent pool of only U.S. players. It also provides a better product for fans to watch.
 
Re: Americans-Canadians

wrong again, Trilly. You too must be a Canadian Univ. grad w/o a clue. Hard to argue with a 3rd grade education. Sorry you just don't get it...I'll try to write slower so you can follow along.

Still, none of you has even tried to argue the point [because you can't]....Why, in a non-revenue sport are U.S. colleges filling their rosters 50% or more with carpetbaggers?
Please let me know why this is not happening in other sports, for example college Soccer [where the rest of the world is miles ahead of the U.S. and therefore you would expect most rosters to be 90% non-U.S players]?? Please, genius, just answer that one.

[Go B.C.....way to go Ms. King!]

Don't have the numbers, but track teams tend to have a large percentage of internationals and it is a non-revenue sport. Seems to me every time I listen to a major international track competition, they mention the various international athletes and which US university they train at.

However, we won't let little things like your ignorance of anything outside your local girls 12U and 14U hockey teams get in the way of your pompous attitude.

Take your trolling to some other board, or at least to the USCHO Cafe where you can get thoroughly flamed.
 
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You sound like maybe you got your 'degree' from a 'prestigious':eek: Canadian University....Probably in economics....What a maroon.

Sorry, Sweetie. I’m an Ivy grad. You know, those prestigious American Universities? Maybe you’ve heard of them? I played four years of DI hockey while I was there, too. It was a dream come true that was greatly enhanced by my Canadian teammates.

Your ignorance is mind-blowing.
 
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Wait, you mean this is a parent of a U-14 player causing us this much grief?

Who the heck is carding at the door! Don't you at least have to be the parent of a U16 player to be this ignorant and irritating? :cool:
 
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Wait, you mean this is a parent of a U-14 player causing us this much grief?

Who the heck is carding at the door! Don't you at least have to be the parent of a U16 player to be this ignorant and irritating? :cool:

Ignorant, yup. With his first few posts, he manages to indicate that he has a daughter on the 14U NJ Colonials and isn't smart enough to get a new ID to switch into irritating mode.

Irritating, absolutely, and almost to the point of entertaining.

If there are any other NJ located regulars around here, can you please drive by this guys house and give him a dope slap?
 
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Sorry, Sweetie. I’m an Ivy grad…..Maybe you’ve heard of them?......Your ignorance is mind-blowing.

Sweetie ??.....The scary part is that "Sweetie" is from your neck of the woods. :eek:

Ignorant, yup. With his first few posts, he manages to indicate that he has a daughter on the 14U NJ Colonials…...

Jersey Eh !, ...The Colonials....Almost a Fitting Name...:D .

Wait, you mean this is a parent of a U-14 player causing us this much grief?

Aah look at it from a postive perspective. Still lots of time for a proper education on etiquette. ;)

Seriously though....after initially avoiding commenting on NJC's pet peeve, threaded into the icy waters last night with an elaborate response to NJC's challenge "none of you has even tried to argue the point [because you can't]".....I have my defense systems prepared for the inevitable.
 
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Are Canadian defense systems something we should be concerned about? ;)

No have to rely on the Americans for that.


anyways BTW just look for the Hondas with the confederate flag /bumper sticker in the driveway.

Maybe NJC can learn something from one of 14 yr old colonials

N.J. Colonials Player Attends Presidential Inauguration
Mikhaela Schultz, a member of the NJ Colonials 14 & Unders, is a 7th grade student in Warren, New Jersey who had the experience of a lifetime when she was chosen to attend the 44th Inauguration of Barack Obama. Mikhaela also heard Erik Weihenmayer, General Colin Powell, and Al Gore speak.
Colin Powell said “You have to know your strengths and your weaknesses. Any person knows their strengths but an even stronger person knows their opponents strengths and weaknesses.”
Mikhaela writes…..”I think this means that you cannot go through life thinking you are the best because there will always be someone better than you, someone trying to be better than you. You have to recognize what they are good at and what you are good at. You can use this idea within your team. Just like your opponents, your teammates differ from you. Your strengths are not the same and your weaknesses are different too, but together you can help each other be better by learning from one another. In life you will always be competing against someone, whether it is for a spot on a team or for a job in office. I hope more students and athletes will have the opportunity to attend these enriching courses and that their teachers and coaches will recognize not only their weaknesses but also their strengths and help them to become better leaders.”


There's a girl not afraid of a challenge me thinks
 
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Re: Americans-Canadians

No have to rely on the Americans for that.


anyways BTW just look for the Hondas with the confederate flag /bumper sticker in the driveway.

Maybe NJC can learn something from one of 14 yr old colonials

N.J. Colonials Player Attends Presidential Inauguration
Mikhaela Schultz, a member of the NJ Colonials 14 & Unders, is a 7th grade student in Warren, New Jersey who had the experience of a lifetime when she was chosen to attend the 44th Inauguration of Barack Obama. Mikhaela also heard Erik Weihenmayer, General Colin Powell, and Al Gore speak.
Colin Powell said “You have to know your strengths and your weaknesses. Any person knows their strengths but an even stronger person knows their opponents strengths and weaknesses.”
Mikhaela writes…..”I think this means that you cannot go through life thinking you are the best because there will always be someone better than you, someone trying to be better than you. You have to recognize what they are good at and what you are good at. You can use this idea within your team. Just like your opponents, your teammates differ from you. Your strengths are not the same and your weaknesses are different too, but together you can help each other be better by learning from one another. In life you will always be competing against someone, whether it is for a spot on a team or for a job in office. I hope more students and athletes will have the opportunity to attend these enriching courses and that their teachers and coaches will recognize not only their weaknesses but also their strengths and help them to become better leaders.”


There's a girl not afraid of a challenge me thinks

Me thinks this is a young girl who is better spoken than many college players, and surely better spoken than most USCHO posters. :cool:

Seriously, this young lady sure sounds like someone who will be a winner in whatever she decides to pursue down he road.
 
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No have to rely on the Americans for that.


anyways BTW just look for the Hondas with the confederate flag /bumper sticker in the driveway.

Hey now, let's not throw all Southerners under the bus, or Honda in this case, because a New Jersey idiot is coming on here spouting hatred all over the place. Plenty of friendly, happy, Canadians south of the Mason Dixon that enjoy the comforts of southern hospitality.
 
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Hey now, let's not throw all Southerners under the bus, or Honda in this case, because a New Jersey idiot is coming on here spouting hatred all over the place. Plenty of friendly, happy, Canadians south of the Mason Dixon that enjoy the comforts of southern hospitality.

For sure...I've never yet met a southerner I didn't like....yankees...well that's another story. :p Nothing beats that southern charm and hospitality. Truth be known, my dream has always been to live part of the year in the Old South if I ever get to retire, though I'd miss hockey.
 
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