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All Things Denver XXX

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Pablo said:
I'm proud of the way they played in the Final Five too. If they were ever "unworthy" of our undying adulation, it was after Michigan Tech beat them at home, to win their first game in like 25 tries. That said...we're all in this together, hoping for the best. Our regional is fine--hopefully we've learned from recent years to treat each opponent with utmost respect. We need to dictate the play against WMU, and exceed their hustle. North Dakota--what can you say. There could be an upset in this bracket. But if we do meet UND, then I think it's good timing, having played a tight game with them so recently. Plus, North Dakota has the curse of the Melrose. Last time I heard him building up North Dakota so much, DU smoked em in the national championship game! Viva el Melrose.
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Tech was due for a win and that time just happened to be that Friday at Magness. They played a smart game and their goalie was strong; It happens, it doesn't mean the season is/was toast. Here's the proof:
Take the '04-05 season, for example, which was obviously a very good year for the Pios. Tech came in that season owning a 1-16-1 record while eventually finishing in last place and on an 11 game losing streak and a 13 game winless streak, while DU was 13-5-1 and hadn't lost for 9 games. So, of course, Tech outscored DU at Magness for the weekend, winning 3-0 and losing 1-0.
Here's the box score for the loss: http://collegehockeystats.net/0405/boxes/mdenmtu1.j07

Obviously, this didn't signify a team that was destined for failure, just as the loss this year to Tech doesn't at all signal failure in my mind. The '05 team was the greatest DU team (with all due respect to 1978) of the past 40 years and, yet, they succumbed to the last place, losing streak, MTU Huskies at home.
 
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Chris said:
Tech was due for a win and that time just happened to be that Friday at Magness. They played a smart game and their goalie was strong; It happens, it doesn't mean the season is/was toast. Here's the proof:
Take the '04-05 season, for example, which was obviously a very good year for the Pios. Tech came in that season owning a 1-16-1 record while eventually finishing in last place and on an 11 game losing streak and a 13 game winless streak, while DU was 13-5-1 and hadn't lost for 9 games. So, of course, Tech outscored DU at Magness for the weekend, winning 3-0 and losing 1-0.
Here's the box score for the loss: http://collegehockeystats.net/0405/boxes/mdenmtu1.j07

Obviously, this didn't signify a team that was destined for failure, just as the loss this year to Tech doesn't at all signal failure in my mind. The '05 team was the greatest DU team (with all due respect to 1978) of the past 40 years and, yet, they succumbed to the last place, losing streak, MTU Huskies at home.
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Then I'll call that a good omen! Good to be reminded of such things.

You just never know how long it will take for a team to rebound from a loss like that, so as to reach their "peak" for the NCAA tournament. I saw some hopeful signs in the Final Five that the ship has been righted, and it's good to see some momentum and confidence going into the NCAA's. Most encouraging: Mr. Brittain's play. Plus, I think Zucker has another gear that he can kick into next weekend. If he does, he and the Pioneers could make a nice run.
 
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PioneerPhanatic said:
Pretty great story about the team we're facing on Saturday. This has its own thread but I thought some of you would like to see it. If it wasn't for the fact that they were playing DU I would wish them serious tournament success.
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The Saturday matchup with DU/WMU will find me with very mixed emotions but knowing that I'll be rooting for the winner of that game come Sunday. Our family spent over 15 years as season ticket holders in "The Old Barn" before moving from Denver to Michigan in 1996. Each of our two sons had their first post-birth outings after coming home from the hospital sitting on Mom's lap watching DU hockey in The Barn. And they were immediately hooked on the game, getting their hockey roots as players in Littleton but later playing at the HS level in northern Michigan in a start-up HS program that has already built a very special young history. (Including a current 2-time CCHA all-league defenseman who will be playing back east with the Redhawks this weekend.) Both went on to college at WMU...both were student employees in Lawson Arena and a big part of the hockey culture there. Their passions for the game never stopped growing. Here neither. I think that the zamboni driver at about the 5:10 mark in that film is my younger son, who received his degree from WMU in December. Big brother now works for an NHL franchise. Posters below are right...hockey people are special, regardless of where they come from. We will be in Green Bay this weekend, rooting for both sides in the nightcap on Saturday. I'll be the one wearing my old "Bleacher Creatures" DU tee with a WMU jacket partially covering it. The zam driver in the video will be there too, now relishing his role as a WMU alumnus who got his first passion for the game watching the Pies! Good luck to two special programs with superb coaches and quality young players when they lace 'em up on Saturday!
 
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Pablo said:
Then I'll call that a good omen! Good to be reminded of such things.
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I certainly hope so. Yep...it is what it is.

About our buddy tMelrose...I swear I heard him clamor during his drooling soliloquy about UND's undisputed utter greatness that he was just so freakin' proud of all the Canadiens on the roster -- especially all the players from Saskatchewan. There sure are a whole lot of players from Canada on their roster, just mostly from Alberta or Manitoba, and not really any from Saskatchewan.
 
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Chris said:
I certainly hope so. Yep...it is what it is.

About our buddy tMelrose...I swear I heard him clamor during his drooling soliloquy about UND's undisputed utter greatness that he was just so freakin' proud of all the Canadiens on the roster -- especially all the players from Saskatchewan. There sure are a whole lot of players from Canada on their roster, just mostly from Alberta or Manitoba, and not really any from Saskatchewan.
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Yeah, this is an omen for sure. Last year right before the NCAAs, I watched the 2005 run on tape and I was freaking out about how biased he was towards ND. He got it wrong then and let's hope and a huge provided we get past WMU he gets it wrong this year.
 
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Thanks for posting the PC 78. I'm starting to get excited about this game. I thought it was interesting to hear him talk about how in any touney with single elimination the first round game can be one of the hardest. PP needs to get better than last weekend (1-10). It was also interesting to hear his reflections on RPI.
 
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Dmann said:
Yeah, this is an omen for sure. Last year right before the NCAAs, I watched the 2005 run on tape and I was freaking out about how biased he was towards ND. He got it wrong then and let's hope and a huge provided we get past WMU he gets it wrong this year.
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And don't forget NoDak has a game to win in the first round as well. :)
 
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ScottA, I feel like I should mention that "wherefore" means "why" in that Romeo & Juliet line. So you are really asking "Why are you Swami?" Which is a dammmn good question in itself.
 
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I woke up this morning thinking someone should say something. Props to Scott A for pointing out the elephant in the living room. We had a game for the ages against the Sioux and I was looking forward to Swami's analysis of it. It looks like he's decided that discretion is the better part of valor. And who can blame him? With flamefests here and confrontations with whiny parents at Magness. Are we really okay with the idea that it's accceptable to bully someone off these threads?

We've had some vigorous discussion here around the question of "criticizing" the team and whether or not that's an acceptable practice. Both sides have made their arguments and we've all evaluated those arguments. Okay, what next? Are those of us who think the criticism is quite mild, not personal and made with the best interests of the team at heart just supposed to roll over because some of us are prepared to show no restraint in attacking posters with whom they disagree? Some of us have even hinted they are in a special category, deserving of deference because of that status. Or that they have some special inside information (which they won't share) that supports their arguments. If we only knew what they know, goes the argument, then we'd agree with them.

The idea that parents would become so upset at comments posted here that they would confront someone is astonishing. If these parents can't stand the occasional criticism here then they should consider enrolling their sons in a D-III program where nobody cares and the expectations are much lower. For heaven's sake, "fans" of Ohio State just drove Kirk Herbstreit and his family out of Ohio because he wasn't a big enough homer on ESPN to suit them. Is that the kind of atmosphere we want at DU?

I've posted before about yelling some serious smack at Dryden during the '69 FF at the Broadmoor--I wanted an all western final. It was only later that I found out the guy standing next to me was his dad. Would it have been okay for his father to confront the DU loudmouth? Evidently some of us think it would have been. Mr. Dryden just turned and walked away. And that's what I suggest our parents do, just turn and walk away. Or start posting here if they think their sons need defending. Making it personal, confronting people because of their opinions is unacceptable. This is not Auburn or LSU.

And if it turns out comments posted here really are damaging the team then explain that to us, without rancor, bullying or invective. I'd imagine most of us would respond appropriately. Of course, it's always possible under those circumstances that the players and parents involved could just ignore the musings here. Because we're "front runners" and "don't know what the h*ll we're talking about."

Under any circumstances, losing Swami's perspective makes the experience here less enjoyable. I hope he's just taking a "time out" and will rejoin us soon.
 
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The WCHA Championship was a blast. Great hockey from all the teams there. Wow! True hockey fans cheering for their teams. It was a fabulous experience. I hope to be back April 9th watching DU again.

Green Bay 1st. I'll be in the DU Section. Hope to see all of you there.





If you don't like it, the boys on the hockey team have two words for your doubting asses.:p
 
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BigBossMan said:
The WCHA Championship was a blast. Great hockey from all the teams there. Wow! True hockey fans cheering for their teams. It was a fabulous experience. I hope to be back April 9th watching DU again.

Green Bay 1st. I'll be in the DU Section. Hope to see all of you there.







If you don't like it, the boys on the hockey team have two words for your doubting asses.:p
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And I've got two words for you, sonny. "Oh look at me, I went to the Final Five and I'm going to the regional and I'll go to the Frozen Four if necessary to prove what a superior fan I am." Assuming you actually went to the Final Five it must have been difficult to see the action, what with all of that personal magnificence reflecting in your eyes. Next thing you know, you'll be riding your bike "no hands." And I don't believe you know a single member of the team. And in the unlikely event you do, they would be embarrassed to know your attitude, allegedly on their behalf. Certainly no DU fan in Green Bay will have any trouble spotting the guy with a head the size of a Replogle globe.
 
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Old Pio said:
Are we really okay with the idea that it's accceptable to bully someone off these threads?
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Isn't that really what you're trying to do with this very post?


Old Pio said:
We've had some vigorous discussion here around the question of "criticizing" the team and whether or not that's an acceptable practice. Both sides have made their arguments and we've all evaluated those arguments. Okay, what next? Are those of us who think the criticism is quite mild, not personal and made with the best interests of the team at heart just supposed to roll over because some of us are prepared to show no restraint in attacking posters with whom they disagree?
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I think the key word is attacking. I for one am not okay with that. Why would you attack the players or the coach of your team? Why would you want to attack another fan of the team, isn't that a violation of the rules here?

Old Pio said:
Some of us have even hinted they are in a special category, deserving of deference because of that status. Or that they have some special inside information (which they won't share) that supports their arguments. If we only knew what they know, goes the argument, then we'd agree with them.
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I for one believe Swami when he said he had that background. I'm not sure why it was important but I believe him nonetheless.

Old Pio said:
I've posted before about yelling some serious smack at Dryden during the '69 FF at the Broadmoor--I wanted an all western final. It was only later that I found out the guy standing next to me was his dad. Would it have been okay for his father to confront the DU loudmouth? Evidently some of us think it would have been. Mr. Dryden just turned and walked away. And that's what I suggest our parents do, just turn and walk away. Or start posting here if they think their sons need defending. Making it personal, confronting people because of their opinions is unacceptable.
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You seem rather proud of that rather than being embarrassed. I can't comprehend why. Sad to say I would have laughed if dad had shut up the loudmouth or if grandma rolled over his toes with her walker.

Old Pio said:
And if it turns out comments posted here really are damaging the team then explain that to us, without rancor, bullying or invective. I'd imagine most of us would respond appropriately. Of course, it's always possible under those circumstances that the players and parents involved could just ignore the musings here. Because we're "front runners" and "don't know what the h*ll we're talking about."

Under any circumstances, losing Swami's perspective makes the experience here less enjoyable. I hope he's just taking a "time out" and will rejoin us soon.
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Sounds like someone can dish it out but can't take it.





If you don't like it, the boys on the hockey team have two words for your doubting asses. :p
 
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BigBossMan said:
Are we really okay with the idea that it's accceptable to bully someone off these threads?
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Isn't that really what you're trying to do with this very post?

No.




I think the key word is attacking. I for one am not okay with that. Why would you attack the players or the coach of your team? Why would you want to attack another fan of the team, isn't that a violation of the rules here?



I for one believe Swami when he said he had that background. I'm not sure why it was important but I believe him nonetheless.



You seem rather proud of that rather than being embarrassed. I can't comprehend why. Sad to say I would have laughed if dad had shut up the loudmouth or if grandma rolled over his toes with her walker.





Sounds like someone can dish it out but can't take it.





If you don't like it, the boys on the hockey team have two words for your doubting asses. :p[/QUOTE]
 
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