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All Things Denver-The Real XXXIV

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Just kind of sad that coaches have to use power play time to entice players to come here, and to get them to stay. Like I said below, if you can't score even strength goals, you're not gonna get rich playing professional hockey anyway.

Big weekend! Let's go DU!!!
 
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Here's a quick recap on the 4 players who went to the WHL by leaving DU early

Matt Pettinger - Left during the middle of the 1999-00 season to play for the Calgary Hitmen after playing for Team Canada. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Washington Capitals in 2000. Had a pretty successful NHL career playing 422 games in the NHL mostly for the Washington Capitals. Played briefly with Tampa Bay and Vancouver. Has played the last 3 seasons in Germany. Had the most success of anyone leaving DU to go to the WHL.

TJ Fast - Left during the middle of the 2006-07 season to play for the Tri-City Americans. Played 4 years of professional hockey in the ECHL and AHL beginning in 2008-09 through 2011-12. Apparently is not playing hockey this year according to Elite Prospects. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Los Angeles Kings in 2005. He was never signed by LA and his rights were traded to St. Louis in 2008. St. Louis signed him and he played in Peoria in the AHL and Alaska in the ECHL. He was traded again in 2010 to the Florida Panthers where he played in Cincinnati (ECHL) and Rochester (AHL) in 2010-11. The Florida organization loaned him to Hamilton (AHL) in the 2011-12 season. He is now not under contract to any NHL/AHL/ECHL team.

Keith Seabrook - Did not return to DU for the 2007-08 season after spending 1 year with the Pios. He played 2 seasons for the Calgary Hitmen. Played primarily in the AHL from 2009-10 through 2011-12. Is playing in Italy this season. Drafted in the 2nd round in 2006 by the Washington Capitals. He was never signed by them and his rights were traded to the Calgary Flames in 2009. He signed with Calgary in 2009 and played in Abbotsford (AHL) and was loaned to the Manitoba Moose late in the 2010-11 season. In July 2011 he was traded to the Florida Panthers and played for the San Antonio Rampage (AHL) in 2011-12. He is now not under contract with any NHL/AHL/ECHL team.

William Wrenn - Left DU in the middle of the 2010-11 season to join the Portland Winterhawks. Played 1.5 seasons with them, captaining them last year. Currently playing for the Alaska Aces in the ECHL. Was a 2nd round draft pick by the San Jose Sharks. He signed a contract in September 2012 with the Alaska Aces and was also invited to the Worcester Sharks (AHL affilitae of San Jose) training camp. He was released from the Worcester camp and sent to Alaska.
 
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Wrenn shows up a lot, at least against the EGulls. I haven't read the boxes, but the EGulls announcer mentions him frequently.
He probably would have been better off getting his name announced while accepting a diploma.

I guess it's a personal choice, but the kids would be wise to realize that leaving college too early hasn't paid off for most who have gone that route. Stay in school, kids!
 
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Here's a quick recap on the 4 players who went to the WHL by leaving DU early

Matt Pettinger - Left during the middle of the 1999-00 season to play for the Calgary Hitmen after playing for Team Canada. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Washington Capitals in 2000. Had a pretty successful NHL career playing 422 games in the NHL mostly for the Washington Capitals. Played briefly with Tampa Bay and Vancouver. Has played the last 3 seasons in Germany. Had the most success of anyone leaving DU to go to the WHL.

TJ Fast - Left during the middle of the 2006-07 season to play for the Tri-City Americans. Played 4 years of professional hockey in the ECHL and AHL beginning in 2008-09 through 2011-12. Apparently is not playing hockey this year according to Elite Prospects. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Los Angeles Kings in 2005. He was never signed by LA and his rights were traded to St. Louis in 2008. St. Louis signed him and he played in Peoria in the AHL and Alaska in the ECHL. He was traded again in 2010 to the Florida Panthers where he played in Cincinnati (ECHL) and Rochester (AHL) in 2010-11. The Florida organization loaned him to Hamilton (AHL) in the 2011-12 season. He is now not under contract to any NHL/AHL/ECHL team.

Keith Seabrook - Did not return to DU for the 2007-08 season after spending 1 year with the Pios. He played 2 seasons for the Calgary Hitmen. Played primarily in the AHL from 2009-10 through 2011-12. Is playing in Italy this season. Drafted in the 2nd round in 2006 by the Washington Capitals. He was never signed by them and his rights were traded to the Calgary Flames in 2009. He signed with Calgary in 2009 and played in Abbotsford (AHL) and was loaned to the Manitoba Moose late in the 2010-11 season. In July 2011 he was traded to the Florida Panthers and played for the San Antonio Rampage (AHL) in 2011-12. He is now not under contract with any NHL/AHL/ECHL team.

William Wrenn - Left DU in the middle of the 2010-11 season to join the Portland Winterhawks. Played 1.5 seasons with them, captaining them last year. Currently playing for the Alaska Aces in the ECHL. Was a 2nd round draft pick by the San Jose Sharks. He signed a contract in September 2012 with the Alaska Aces and was also invited to the Worcester Sharks (AHL affilitae of San Jose) training camp. He was released from the Worcester camp and sent to Alaska.

Thanks for an incredibly detaled history of those four. I'm wondering if any of them now regret turning their backs on a college education. And that goes for players at other schools, too. Remember Ralph Sampson at UVA? He was named college player of the year two years running and could have come out anytime he wanted and gotten millions. But he stayed in school and got his degree. He still had a pretty good NBA career and now runs a business (IIRC). I've never been an elite athletic (firm grasp on the obvious) and never had that kind of ambition. And though it's self-serving, I still wish more of these kids would realize that a degree can't ever be taken from them. But the ability to compete can, in the blink of an eye.
 
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Here's a quick recap on the 4 players who went to the WHL by leaving DU early

Matt Pettinger - Left during the middle of the 1999-00 season to play for the Calgary Hitmen after playing for Team Canada. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Washington Capitals in 2000. Had a pretty successful NHL career playing 422 games in the NHL mostly for the Washington Capitals. Played briefly with Tampa Bay and Vancouver. Has played the last 3 seasons in Germany. Had the most success of anyone leaving DU to go to the WHL.

TJ Fast - Left during the middle of the 2006-07 season to play for the Tri-City Americans. Played 4 years of professional hockey in the ECHL and AHL beginning in 2008-09 through 2011-12. Apparently is not playing hockey this year according to Elite Prospects. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Los Angeles Kings in 2005. He was never signed by LA and his rights were traded to St. Louis in 2008. St. Louis signed him and he played in Peoria in the AHL and Alaska in the ECHL. He was traded again in 2010 to the Florida Panthers where he played in Cincinnati (ECHL) and Rochester (AHL) in 2010-11. The Florida organization loaned him to Hamilton (AHL) in the 2011-12 season. He is now not under contract to any NHL/AHL/ECHL team.

Keith Seabrook - Did not return to DU for the 2007-08 season after spending 1 year with the Pios. He played 2 seasons for the Calgary Hitmen. Played primarily in the AHL from 2009-10 through 2011-12. Is playing in Italy this season. Drafted in the 2nd round in 2006 by the Washington Capitals. He was never signed by them and his rights were traded to the Calgary Flames in 2009. He signed with Calgary in 2009 and played in Abbotsford (AHL) and was loaned to the Manitoba Moose late in the 2010-11 season. In July 2011 he was traded to the Florida Panthers and played for the San Antonio Rampage (AHL) in 2011-12. He is now not under contract with any NHL/AHL/ECHL team.

William Wrenn - Left DU in the middle of the 2010-11 season to join the Portland Winterhawks. Played 1.5 seasons with them, captaining them last year. Currently playing for the Alaska Aces in the ECHL. Was a 2nd round draft pick by the San Jose Sharks. He signed a contract in September 2012 with the Alaska Aces and was also invited to the Worcester Sharks (AHL affilitae of San Jose) training camp. He was released from the Worcester camp and sent to Alaska.

IIRC, Wrenn was injured his freshman year, hip i think, and never could get back in the lineup in a top position as a soph. During his brief tenure at DU he would've had to beat out the likes of Wiercioch, Donovan, Makowski, Phillips, Lee, and Ryder.
Also thought I remembered Seabrook's brother, who played in the CHL/WHL giving some bad advice.

Note: DU doesn't show Wrenn or Fast on its roster for any year. Does show Seabrook.
 
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I staided in skuul and luuk how dat turnded out...
By their standards it has probably worked out so far. Getting paid to play hockey is their dream. Being that close to the NHL is a lot closer than most of us get to our dreams. Some of us get lucky and others get to realize our dream wasn't a good choice.

Perhaps. On the other hand, working for WKRP in Cincinnati isn't exactly a substitute for NY, Chicago or LA.
 
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TJ Fast left as well. DU has also lost a couple of commitments in Ty Morris (around 10 years ago or so) and recently Connor Honey.
Keith Seabrook, too. I took that one personal, since I gave myself credit for recruiting him in the first place. :)
Edit: oops '78 beat me to it.
 
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BU just beat UNH 3-2 and DU dropped from 10th to 11th in PWR.
 
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He probably would have been better off getting his name announced while accepting a diploma.

I guess it's a personal choice, but the kids would be wise to realize that leaving college too early hasn't paid off for most who have gone that route. Stay in school, kids!

You can see how a recruiter would play it though - "You can always go back and get a degree, you only have a limited time to play hockey. Strike while the iron's hot & get the best deal you can."

When you're young with dreams of the NHL in your eyes, it's easy to see why you'd want to skip a page or two. Then you get older & realize after the fact what a mistake it was. It's how we learn.
 
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So...

Let's talk goalies. Anyone else think that Jussi's earned the #1 slot? Could it be possible that Gwoz won't platoon the goalies this weekend & go with the hot hand?
 
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UOTE=BooneLives;5569336]You can see how a recruiter would play it though - "You can always go back and get a degree, you only have a limited time to play hockey. Strike while the iron's hot & get the best deal you can."

When you're young with dreams of the NHL in your eyes, it's easy to see why you'd want to skip a page or two. Then you get older & realize after the fact what a mistake it was. It's how we learn.[/QUOTE]

DU was a founder member of a consortium of big city schools (started by DU grad Richard Lapchick at Northeastern) whose purpose it is to make it easier for athletes to complete their degrees when their playing days are over. Low or no cost tuition in return for spreading the word about the value of staying in school. I assume we're still members.

Quoting from Wiki: One year after the Center’s inception, Lapchick wanted to take its mission national and established the National Consortium for Academics and Sports (NCAS). For 25 years, the NCAS has been “creating a better society by focusing on educational attainment and using the power and appeal of sport to positively affect social change.” It is a group of over 230 colleges and universities that created the first of its kind degree completion and community service programs. To date, 29,856 athletes have returned to NCAS member schools. Over 13,700 have graduated. Nationally, the NCAS athletes have worked with more than 18 million students in the school outreach and community service program, which focuses on teaching youth how to improve race relations, develop conflict resolution skills, prevent gender violence and avoid drug and alcohol abuse. They have collectively donated more than 19 million hours of service while member colleges have donated more than $320 million in tuition assistance.

As I say, DU was among a handful of schools which were among the founders of
the consortium.
 
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You can see how a recruiter would play it though - "You can always go back and get a degree, you only have a limited time to play hockey. Strike while the iron's hot & get the best deal you can."

When you're young with dreams of the NHL in your eyes, it's easy to see why you'd want to skip a page or two. Then you get older & realize after the fact what a mistake it was. It's how we learn.
Indeed. And for every 5 "bad" decisions, there may be 1 good decision. A lot of us thought that Stastny was not ready for the next level. Clearly, he was. I doubt Rycroft and Pettinger have too many regrets, either.
 
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Indeed. And for every 5 "bad" decisions, there may be 1 good decision. A lot of us thought that Stastny was not ready for the next level. Clearly, he was. I doubt Rycroft and Pettinger have too many regrets, either.
Kevin Dineen told the 2005 team that he regretted not getting his degree.

Don't think for a second that just because they have great hockey careers that many future doors will remain closed without the paperwork.

A vast majority of pro athletes are broke with 2-5 years of their last game, no matter how much they make during their careers.

http://www.businesspundit.com/25-rich-athletes-who-went-broke/
 
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UOTE=BooneLives;5569336]You can see how a recruiter would play it though - "You can always go back and get a degree, you only have a limited time to play hockey. Strike while the iron's hot & get the best deal you can."

When you're young with dreams of the NHL in your eyes, it's easy to see why you'd want to skip a page or two. Then you get older & realize after the fact what a mistake it was. It's how we learn.

DU was a founder member of a consortium of big city schools (started by DU grad Richard Lapchick at Northeastern) whose purpose it is to make it easier for athletes to complete their degrees when their playing days are over. Low or no cost tuition in return for spreading the word about the value of staying in school. I assume we're still members.

Quoting from Wiki: One year after the Center’s inception, Lapchick wanted to take its mission national and established the National Consortium for Academics and Sports (NCAS). For 25 years, the NCAS has been “creating a better society by focusing on educational attainment and using the power and appeal of sport to positively affect social change.” It is a group of over 230 colleges and universities that created the first of its kind degree completion and community service programs. To date, 29,856 athletes have returned to NCAS member schools. Over 13,700 have graduated. Nationally, the NCAS athletes have worked with more than 18 million students in the school outreach and community service program, which focuses on teaching youth how to improve race relations, develop conflict resolution skills, prevent gender violence and avoid drug and alcohol abuse. They have collectively donated more than 19 million hours of service while member colleges have donated more than $320 million in tuition assistance.

As I say, DU was among a handful of schools which were among the founders of
the consortium.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know about that program. Thanks for the education. :)

Be interesting to see how many players who left early actually take advantage of it.

And if I'd actually read a little more careful, I could have answered that question.:rolleyes:
 
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DU was a founder member of a consortium of big city schools (started by DU grad Richard Lapchick at Northeastern) whose purpose it is to make it easier for athletes to complete their degrees when their playing days are over. Low or no cost tuition in return for spreading the word about the value of staying in school. I assume we're still members.

Quoting from Wiki: One year after the Center’s inception, Lapchick wanted to take its mission national and established the National Consortium for Academics and Sports (NCAS). For 25 years, the NCAS has been “creating a better society by focusing on educational attainment and using the power and appeal of sport to positively affect social change.” It is a group of over 230 colleges and universities that created the first of its kind degree completion and community service programs. To date, 29,856 athletes have returned to NCAS member schools. Over 13,700 have graduated. Nationally, the NCAS athletes have worked with more than 18 million students in the school outreach and community service program, which focuses on teaching youth how to improve race relations, develop conflict resolution skills, prevent gender violence and avoid drug and alcohol abuse. They have collectively donated more than 19 million hours of service while member colleges have donated more than $320 million in tuition assistance.

As I say, DU was among a handful of schools which were among the founders of
the consortium.

I didn't know about that program. Thanks for the education. :)

Be interesting to see how many players who left early actually take advantage of it.

And if I'd actually read a little more careful, I could have answered that question.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

The original group was maybe 8 or 10 schools, all in big cities with lots of pro teams. DePaul in Chicago was one. I've always been very proud of our involvement in this program which isn't generally well known but clearly making the world a little bit better place. Nearly 14K degrees conferred, on guys who probably wouldn't have gotten them any other way.
 
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After skating to a 1-1 tie in North Dakota last night, DU remains in 1st in the WCHA by 2 points over Minnesota. They are currently #12 in PWR, Minny is #11 and UND is #14. Hopefully all of the forwards that were banged up last night can play tonight. At one point in the 2nd period DU was down to 6 forwards on the bench as 4 w ere in the locker room being attended to for injuries. Gwoz gave high props to Q Shore who at one time was out there taking all of the faceoffs. He said Q played his best game as a Pio. Apparently Viva Larraza didn't make the trip due to illness per one of the game wrap-ups.
 
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After skating to a 1-1 tie in North Dakota last night, DU remains in 1st in the WCHA by 2 points over Minnesota. They are currently #12 in PWR, Minny is #11 and UND is #14. Hopefully all of the forwards that were banged up last night can play tonight. At one point in the 2nd period DU was down to 6 forwards on the bench as 4 w ere in the locker room being attended to for injuries. Gwoz gave high props to Q Shore who at one time was out there taking all of the faceoffs. He said Q played his best game as a Pio. Apparently Viva Larraza didn't make the trip due to illness per one of the game wrap-ups.

DU was really gassed last night in the 3rd and OT. And the Sioux were flying. By all rights they should have scored 4 or maybe 5, except for Jussi. That's one of the best games I can ever recall by a DU goalie, particularly under the circumstances. We better be able to get the walking wounded out there tonight. They're gonna come out really wanting to get the "W." It's funny, we'd miss "Viva" no matter the circumstance, but evidently it isn't his knee that kept him home and somehow that feels better.
 
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It's always fun to watch an out of town broadcast. Those child molesters at the jewelry store in Anchorage are priceless. Last night we were treated to PSAs on locking your car while it warms up, not leaving food on your patio so the mooses can''t get to it and my favorite, how corn cobs are an eco-friendly alternative to TP for use in your outhouse.
 
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It's always fun to watch an out of town broadcast. Those child molesters at the jewelry store in Anchorage are priceless. Last night we were treated to PSAs on locking your car while it warms up, not leaving food on your patio so the mooses can''t get to it and my favorite, how corn cobs are an eco-friendly alternative to TP for use in your outhouse.

Toilet Paper!!!???? Get real...we used the Sears Catalog when I was growing up. :p:D:D
 
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