ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
That too. It was unreal how bad that story was reported.
That too. It was unreal how bad that story was reported.
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2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Today in Republicanism we highlight Wisconsin GOP House Candidate Glenn Grothman.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...e-glenn-grothman-s-10-most-outrageous-moments
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/passing-the-torch-new-generation-fringe-lawmakers
Today in Republicanism we highlight Wisconsin GOP House Candidate Glenn Grothman.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...e-glenn-grothman-s-10-most-outrageous-moments
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/passing-the-torch-new-generation-fringe-lawmakers
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Gah. The next three months are going to be a gong show up here.
Senate race with an incumbent Dem in a red state...a House race where the incumbent is 81 years old...a three-way race for governor...proposals for marijuana legalization, minimum wage hike to $9.75, and mining development rights in Bristol Bay (a major salmon spawn and a BIG FREAKIN' DEAL.) Oy.
Gah. The next three months are going to be a gong show up here.
Senate race with an incumbent Dem in a red state...a House race where the incumbent is 81 years old...a three-way race for governor...proposals for marijuana legalization, minimum wage hike to $9.75, and mining development rights in Bristol Bay (a major salmon spawn and a BIG FREAKIN' DEAL.) Oy.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
It's lovely that groups are spending like $1,000,000 per capita.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
If I could go back to high school graduation and decide what to do all over again, I'd be a lobbyist or a drug dealer.
If I could go back to high school graduation and decide what to do all over again, I'd be a lobbyist or a drug dealer.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
It's not too late.
If I could go back to high school graduation and decide what to do all over again, I'd be a lobbyist or a drug dealer.
It's not too late.
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
The Minnesota GOP would like everyone to know that a US House candidate writing bigoted blog posts about women, gays, and native americans is bad...but, so is a US Senator holding two traffic cones up to his chest.
Video NSFW.
As a side note...really Al? Traffic cones?
The Minnesota GOP would like everyone to know that a US House candidate writing bigoted blog posts about women, gays, and native americans is bad...but, so is a US Senator holding two traffic cones up to his chest.
Video NSFW.
As a side note...really Al? Traffic cones?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
P
Priceless
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Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Drug dealer might be the more noble profession.
If I could go back to high school graduation and decide what to do all over again, I'd be a lobbyist or a drug dealer.
Drug dealer might be the more noble profession.
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
An amendment is unnecessary. A simple federal law would suffice.
An amendment is unnecessary. A simple federal law would suffice.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
1. The United States is a secular nation with ethics, moral, principles, and values established through history from varied sources that reflect our core value, 'e pluribus unum' = 'from many, one.'
2. The United States respects persons of all colors, faiths, and families of man. The practice of bigotry against any person(s) for any reason is hereby prohibited in the United States and all of its territories and possessions, and in all of its States, Counties, and Cities, in perpetuity. Violations of this ban, regardless of source, shall be considered a felony punishable by ten years in prison at hard labor.
3. This Amendment takes effect upon its enactment.
As long as I get to be the sole judge of what constitutes bigotry, then we're all good.
1. The United States is a secular nation with ethics, moral, principles, and values established through history from varied sources that reflect our core value, 'e pluribus unum' = 'from many, one.'
2. The United States respects persons of all colors, faiths, and families of man. The practice of bigotry against any person(s) for any reason is hereby prohibited in the United States and all of its territories and possessions, and in all of its States, Counties, and Cities, in perpetuity. Violations of this ban, regardless of source, shall be considered a felony punishable by ten years in prison at hard labor.
3. This Amendment takes effect upon its enactment.
As long as I get to be the sole judge of what constitutes bigotry, then we're all good.
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Although the grand jurors have vehemently denied any political motivation, I do believe they were largely D-leaning, so there were Democrats involved somewhere in the process. Then again, they did no-bill on two of the counts offered by the special prosecutor.
Also, the organization that brought the complaint originally is left-leaning, but they're anything but an arm of the state party. They seem to be more Naderites than anything else.
Although the grand jurors have vehemently denied any political motivation, I do believe they were largely D-leaning, so there were Democrats involved somewhere in the process. Then again, they did no-bill on two of the counts offered by the special prosecutor.
Also, the organization that brought the complaint originally is left-leaning, but they're anything but an arm of the state party. They seem to be more Naderites than anything else.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Not for long. The Court is going to rule sexual orientation as a suspect classification like race or ethnicity very soon, certainly within a decade, and with that comes strict scrutiny. Any federal law would run right into an unconstitutional wall.
Considering that one of the qualifers for suspect classification is that the "group has historically been discriminated against, and/or have been subject to prejudice, hostility, and/or stigma, perhaps due, at least in part, to stereotypes," it's all over but the shouting.
Not for long. The Court is going to rule sexual orientation as a suspect classification like race or ethnicity very soon, certainly within a decade, and with that comes strict scrutiny. Any federal law would run right into an unconstitutional wall.
Considering that one of the qualifers for suspect classification is that the "group has historically been discriminated against, and/or have been subject to prejudice, hostility, and/or stigma, perhaps due, at least in part, to stereotypes," it's all over but the shouting.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Are you serious? Are you seriously going to criticize a guy for having some fun like this? JFC.
Are you serious? Are you seriously going to criticize a guy for having some fun like this? JFC.
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
No.
Nope, merely expressing my amusement at the sophomoric antics. I found it funny in a "did he really just do that" kind of way.
Deep breaths, Francis.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
SOrry, I completely misread it then. I thought you were doing the whole, "ZOMG, DID HE MAKE A JOKE?!? HE'S MAKING MINNESOTANS LOOK LIKE MORONS! WHHHHAAAARGARBL!!!!!"
SOrry, I completely misread it then. I thought you were doing the whole, "ZOMG, DID HE MAKE A JOKE?!? HE'S MAKING MINNESOTANS LOOK LIKE MORONS! WHHHHAAAARGARBL!!!!!"
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Given that he was a successful professional comedian, I think it was pretty obvious he was just going for "wow that's dumb" humor.
I didn't blame the GOP for using it like I didn't blame the Dems for using McCain's "zombie walk" debate photo. Those cheap shots are frankly part of what makes politics funny. They are actually themselves a good example of "wow that's dumb" humor, and anybody who is stupid enough to be swayed by them won't be able to find the voting booth anyway.
Given that he was a successful professional comedian, I think it was pretty obvious he was just going for "wow that's dumb" humor.
I didn't blame the GOP for using it like I didn't blame the Dems for using McCain's "zombie walk" debate photo. Those cheap shots are frankly part of what makes politics funny. They are actually themselves a good example of "wow that's dumb" humor, and anybody who is stupid enough to be swayed by them won't be able to find the voting booth anyway.
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Critical Thinker
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Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Hey now, that's sexist. If this passes, any congressperson who voted for it should be charged with a felony.
Hey now, that's sexist. If this passes, any congressperson who voted for it should be charged with a felony.
Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
I agree that using that video to poke fun or even try to score some sort of cheap shot is to be expected. What's funny about this situation, is that the way the MN GOP is using it is far more embarrassing to them then it is to Franken. They are basically suggesting that what Franken did and what Jim Hagedorn wrote are the same thing. They think that, because Democrats called out Hagedorn for his blog posts, but not Franken for holding traffic cones up to his chest, they are hypocrites. But really, it just goes to show the degree to which the MN GOP doesn't get it.
I agree that using that video to poke fun or even try to score some sort of cheap shot is to be expected. What's funny about this situation, is that the way the MN GOP is using it is far more embarrassing to them then it is to Franken. They are basically suggesting that what Franken did and what Jim Hagedorn wrote are the same thing. They think that, because Democrats called out Hagedorn for his blog posts, but not Franken for holding traffic cones up to his chest, they are hypocrites. But really, it just goes to show the degree to which the MN GOP doesn't get it.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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While it is true that hypocrites often do not recognize their own hypocrisy, I think this is a case where the MN GOP assumes the typical low info voter lacks the time, ability or desire to draw the comparison. This is a tactical choice to take the low hanging fruit and not worry about a counter-narrative, because parsing the counter-narrative is too much trouble for a lot of voters. It's also a way to set up a false equivalence later, so that genuinely sexist statements from the right can be met with "well, of course, there's controversy on both sides..." to make it go away. It's probably an effective way to detoxify the issue, sadly enough.
While it is true that hypocrites often do not recognize their own hypocrisy, I think this is a case where the MN GOP assumes the typical low info voter lacks the time, ability or desire to draw the comparison. This is a tactical choice to take the low hanging fruit and not worry about a counter-narrative, because parsing the counter-narrative is too much trouble for a lot of voters. It's also a way to set up a false equivalence later, so that genuinely sexist statements from the right can be met with "well, of course, there's controversy on both sides..." to make it go away. It's probably an effective way to detoxify the issue, sadly enough.
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