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2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line

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Today in Republicanism:

Now Karl Rove doesn't believe in raising the SS/Medicare retirement age and is attacking a Democrat for even agreeing with the idea.

Now Rove’s Crossroads is back with another ad that does pretty much the same thing, this one hitting Senator Kay Hagan in North Carolina over Social Security’s retirement age. The spot, which is backed by more than $1 million, says Hagan is a “big believer” in a “controversial plan” that “raises the retirement age,” while the words “raises Social Security retirement age” flash on the screen. It also claims the plan Hagan supports “increases out-of-pocket Medicare costs.”

Yes, it appears Rove’s Crossroads is attacking Hagan for saying nice things about the Simpson Bowles debt reduction plan, which squeezes seniors by cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits.
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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-roves-crossroads-moves-sharply-the-left
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Today in Republicanism:

Now Karl Rove doesn't believe in raising the SS/Medicare retirement age and is attacking a Democrat for even agreeing with the idea.
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This isn't new. Rove floated this strategy a few years ago via that front group he used to operate. What you do is release a plan that cuts a service by 50% in order to frame the issue as "cost control." When your opponent releases a plan cutting the service by 5% you withdraw your plan and then run screaming scare ads about your opponent "gutting" the service.

Trusting the Republicans to reform social security is like trusting ISIS with running a seder. They've been howling for fifty years that they want to plow it into the ground and now suddenly they're its "champion"? Too funny for words.
 
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Doubtful.

He's been absent over the last week and I'm still waiting for a reply on what he would do that differs from what Obama is doing with ISIS.
 
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Did anyone else hear about Kirsten Gilibrand and what senators were saying to her?

One was reported to say something like, "don't lose all that baby weight, I like my women with some curves."

JFC. I wish she would just out these pigs.
 
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Here's the master plan by the new Senate Majority Leader for next year.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) explained his plan to use a government shutdown as a bargaining chip against President Barack Obama to a room full of wealthy conservatives two months ago, according to audio obtained by The Nation magazine.

“So in the House and Senate, we own the budget. So what does that mean? That means that we can pass the spending bill. And I assure you that in the spending bill, we will be pushing back against this bureaucracy by doing what’s called placing riders in the bill. No money can be spent to do this or to do that. We’re going to go after them on health care, on financial services, on the Environmental Protection Agency, across the board. … All across the federal government, we’re going to go after it,” McConnell said at a private summit hosted by the Koch Brothers.
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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/mcconnell-offers-peek-behind-the-curtain

That outta get things going in Congress.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Doubtful.

He's been absent over the last week and I'm still waiting for a reply on what he would do that differs from what Obama is doing with ISIS.
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Hey in Fishy's defense neither Rush, Hannity, Drudge or the guy on the street corner screaming anti-Obama rants all day haven't come up with an answer yet, so how is he supposed to regurgitate it out here for us? :confused: :D
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Did anyone else hear about Kirsten Gilibrand and what senators were saying to her?

One was reported to say something like, "don't lose all that baby weight, I like my women with some curves."

JFC. I wish she would just out these pigs.
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I wish I could say it's just because they're all old and their sexism will die with them, but a lot of the good ol' boys I work with are just as bad.

Nuke the South; it's the only way.
 
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Kepler said:
I wish I could say it's just because they're all old and their sexism will die with them, but a lot of the good ol' boys I work with are just as bad.

Nuke the South; it's the only way.
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Oh, they can't all be from the south...I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them was Kennedy.
 
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Today in well duh.

Ornstein called the GOP's singular focus on attacking Obamacare -- and inability to foresee that it would eventually collapse on them -- "a textbook case of mass psychology."

"They basically worked themselves up into a frenzy over the notion that this was a government takeover of health care and socialism," he said. "I think they convinced themselves that this was so awful, that they denied any objective reality."
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So many inaccuracies, so little time. (from Facebook)
Democrats have had house and Senate for 6 years and world is going to hell in a hand basket carried by the Democrats. Nothing positive in 6 years nothing. The democratic party is lucky their voter base is to lazy to do research and too stupid to fact check for their own benefit and vote on popularity and party lines. And no one in the demoncratic party complain about being millionaires in just a few years. Keep Drinking THE Juice And Let This ****ty Party Keep Failing US Like Obama Has Like they Have in Chicago And detriot. The demoncrats and Obama aren't going to be happy until we have another 911
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Kepler said:
I wish I could say it's just because they're all old and their sexism will die with them, but a lot of the good ol' boys I work with are just as bad.

Nuke the South; it's the only way.
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You forgot to call them savages before saying we should nuke them. Once you call them savages it is ok to nuke them.
 
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jerphisch said:
You forgot to call them savages before saying we should nuke them. Once you call them savages it is ok to nuke them.
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Been done before, certainly. Justice John Marshall used the term in Johnson v. McIntosh as partial justification:

When the conquest is complete, and the conquered inhabitants can be blended with the conquerors, or safely governed as a distinct people, public opinion, which not even the conqueror can disregard, imposes these restraints upon him; and he cannot neglect them without injury to his fame, and hazard to his power.

But the tribes of Indians inhabiting this country were fierce savages, whose occupation was war, and whose subsistence was drawn chiefly from the forest. To leave them in possession of their country, was to leave the country a wilderness; to govern them as a distinct people, was impossible, because they were as brave and as high spirited as they were fierce, and were ready to repel by arms every attempt on their independence.
 
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