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2nd Term Part 5: Big Brotha

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Correct. And not a single sniffle from libstains (who presumably thought it was funny). CBS was upset. So much so that Kilborn was fired (four years later).
How do you presume anyone thought it was funny? It was so popular I hadn't even heard about until about 13 or 14 years after it aired. Sounds like a laugh riot.
 
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How do you presume anyone thought it was funny? It was so popular I hadn't even heard about until about 13 or 14 years after it aired. Sounds like a laugh riot.

Clearly, Kilborn and his staff thought it was funny.
 
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Clearly, Kilborn and his staff thought it was funny.
Oh, well that settles it then. Heaven knows in 2001 or 2002 Kilborn and his writers were the center of liberal thought in this country.
 
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Oh, well that settles it then. Heaven knows in 2001 or 2002 Kilborn and his writers were the center of liberal thought in this country.

I'm not chasing you down that (typical) rat hole. The issue was and is the threats made against Bush the entire time he was in the WH. And the hypersensitivity of libtards to even a whisper against HIM Barack I.
 
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Nice to see Tesla's doing well. Stock has soared from $30 in Jan to over $150 today. The automobile industry...err...outsiders can reinvent the industry.
 
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THIS is great! According to conservatives, the Soviet Union actually ran US foreign policy from the FDR admin thru Ike's!

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/conservative-historian-has-interesting-ideas.html


The new right-wing book of the moment is American Betrayal, by Diana West, which offers the thesis that American foreign policy under presidents Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower was secretly controlled by the Soviet Union. If this sounds like the sort of tract that would be written by somebody who thinks Joe McCarthy was absolutely right about everything, well, that’s exactly what Diana West does believe. She’s also quite the birther.

But her book has managed to attract quite a bit of support from respectable and semi-respectable outlets on the right. The Heritage Foundation feted West, Amity Shlaes blurbed it, the American Spectator and Daily Caller issued raves, and Breitbart is actually serializing the book.

West argues not just that there were communist spies in the government or that American foreign policy failed to take a strong enough line, but that the Soviets controlled the American government in the way they controlled, say, East Germany. For instance, West argues that America provoked Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor — an American working for the Soviets “subverted relations between the US and Japan by inserting ‘ultimatum’ language into the cable flow that actually spurred the Japanese attack.”

Blaming the U.S. for provoking Pearl Harbor is the sort of claim that might offend modern conservatives, except that West further argues that America was controlled by the Soviets all along. Likewise, she tells us, the U.S. could have supported anti-Hitler Nazis and ended the war, but didn’t, because its goal was to help the Soviets occupy Eastern Europe. (“The war had to last long enough for the Soviet Army to roll into the heart of Europe on those fleets of Lend-Lease Dodge and Studebaker trucks Uncle Sam had generously provided.”)

What’s interesting is that West’s paranoia has proven too much for Ron Radosh, who assails West in a lengthy review at Front Page Magazine (“overheated, or simply false and distorted”).

Our readers may not grasp just what it takes to be called a right-wing kook in Front Page Magazine by Ron Radosh. The bar is high. Radosh himself is quite conservative (he’s called President Obama a socialist). FrontPageMag is … well, suffice to say, its official motto is “Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out” — which is surely more evocative, if less credibility-rendering, than "All the news that’s fit to print." It currently features stories with such headlines as “Islamic Group in America: We’ll Impose Sharia on Christians” and “Seven More Reasons to Impeach Eric Holder.”

(My mind was boggled upon first reading the latter headline — seven reasons to impeach Holder? — only to scan it again and try to process the next word, “more.” Sure enough, it’s a follow-up to a previous article listing ten reasons to impeach Holder. FrontPageMag is now up to seventeen independently sufficient causes for the impeachment of the Attorney General.)

Radosh’s review displays an entertaining clash of different gradations of right-wing paranoia. Faithful readers of the conservative news have been conditioned to believe that modern history is shaped by dark liberal plots, all covered up by the mainstream news. Radosh and FrontPageMag are among the sources conditioning them to think this way. (Radosh, for instance, thinks it’s perfectly plausible that Barack Obama’s autobiography was secretly ghostwritten by Bill Ayers.) West is simply applying the same analytic method backward in time.

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I for one cannot WAIT for the inevitable Rand Paul vs Chris Christie primary debates. Especially after Christie gets laughed off stage due to his unwillingness to take part in the Black Helicopter Brigade!
 
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THIS is great! According to conservatives, the Soviet Union actually ran US foreign policy from the FDR admin thru Ike's!

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/conservative-historian-has-interesting-ideas.html


The new right-wing book of the moment is American Betrayal, by Diana West, which offers the thesis that American foreign policy under presidents Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower was secretly controlled by the Soviet Union. If this sounds like the sort of tract that would be written by somebody who thinks Joe McCarthy was absolutely right about everything, well, that’s exactly what Diana West does believe. She’s also quite the birther.

But her book has managed to attract quite a bit of support from respectable and semi-respectable outlets on the right. The Heritage Foundation feted West, Amity Shlaes blurbed it, the American Spectator and Daily Caller issued raves, and Breitbart is actually serializing the book.

West argues not just that there were communist spies in the government or that American foreign policy failed to take a strong enough line, but that the Soviets controlled the American government in the way they controlled, say, East Germany. For instance, West argues that America provoked Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor — an American working for the Soviets “subverted relations between the US and Japan by inserting ‘ultimatum’ language into the cable flow that actually spurred the Japanese attack.”

Blaming the U.S. for provoking Pearl Harbor is the sort of claim that might offend modern conservatives, except that West further argues that America was controlled by the Soviets all along. Likewise, she tells us, the U.S. could have supported anti-Hitler Nazis and ended the war, but didn’t, because its goal was to help the Soviets occupy Eastern Europe. (“The war had to last long enough for the Soviet Army to roll into the heart of Europe on those fleets of Lend-Lease Dodge and Studebaker trucks Uncle Sam had generously provided.”)

What’s interesting is that West’s paranoia has proven too much for Ron Radosh, who assails West in a lengthy review at Front Page Magazine (“overheated, or simply false and distorted”).

Our readers may not grasp just what it takes to be called a right-wing kook in Front Page Magazine by Ron Radosh. The bar is high. Radosh himself is quite conservative (he’s called President Obama a socialist). FrontPageMag is … well, suffice to say, its official motto is “Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out” — which is surely more evocative, if less credibility-rendering, than "All the news that’s fit to print." It currently features stories with such headlines as “Islamic Group in America: We’ll Impose Sharia on Christians” and “Seven More Reasons to Impeach Eric Holder.”

(My mind was boggled upon first reading the latter headline — seven reasons to impeach Holder? — only to scan it again and try to process the next word, “more.” Sure enough, it’s a follow-up to a previous article listing ten reasons to impeach Holder. FrontPageMag is now up to seventeen independently sufficient causes for the impeachment of the Attorney General.)

Radosh’s review displays an entertaining clash of different gradations of right-wing paranoia. Faithful readers of the conservative news have been conditioned to believe that modern history is shaped by dark liberal plots, all covered up by the mainstream news. Radosh and FrontPageMag are among the sources conditioning them to think this way. (Radosh, for instance, thinks it’s perfectly plausible that Barack Obama’s autobiography was secretly ghostwritten by Bill Ayers.) West is simply applying the same analytic method backward in time.

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I for one cannot WAIT for the inevitable Rand Paul vs Chris Christie primary debates. Especially after Christie gets laughed off stage due to his unwillingness to take part in the Black Helicopter Brigade!

It appears your mind is easily "boggled," Alger.
 
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Hey Opie, condolences on this solemn day. 39 years ago, your hero Honest Richard Nixon sucked the pipe and did the right thing for once in his wretched life, he RESIGNED in disgrace! :D

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/...ichard-nixons-resignation-on-aug-9-1973.html/
Who started the EPA?
Who actually got integration moving and actually started us down the road (bumpy) of affirmative action?
Who opened the doors with the PRC?
Who ended the Vietnam War?

The person whose administration did all these things may have been a flawed individual, but he never cheated on his wife in the White House and never lied to a grand jury.
 
Who started the EPA?
Who actually got integration moving and actually started us down the road (bumpy) of affirmative action?
Who opened the doors with the PRC?
Who ended the Vietnam War?

The person whose administration did all these things may have been a flawed individual, but he never cheated on his wife in the White House and never lied to a grand jury.

Looks like I hooked a oldy conservative fish. Dick Nixon was and is an effin' disgrace.

Who's on tape ordering the CIA to interfere with the FBI's investigation of his activities?

Who instructed his henchmen to plan campaign literature from his opponent in the apartment of George Wallace's attempted assassin?

Who needed a pardon from Gerald Ford not just for Watergate but for any and all other crimes committed by Tricky Dicky given that his own finances and his dirty tricks campaign were under scrutiny.

Who gave the United States its worst Constitutional crisis since the Civil War?

Who's the only President to resign, and who only did so after it became beyond a shadow of a doubt that he'd be forced out of office whether he liked it or not?

Yeah, I'm sure Nixon was nice to his family and kind to animals and all that, but the guy was a joke. One only wonders why cons are so willing to defend the criminal.
 
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ok guys, blaming Bush for everything under the sun is kind of funny once in a while, and even claiming to have proof that Ronald Reagan is secretly Satan can be somewhat amusing in a pathetic way, but... "Richard Nixon", really? This whole debate reeks of a desperate attempt to distract from the Obamacare fiasco.
 
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I don't see what the big deal is. If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.

Right?
Wrong (with all due respect)

It used to be a goofy, paranoid slippery slope argument that private communication of all forms would be outlawed. I used to get a lot of laughs at the Truther/Alex Jones types that would subscribe to such a tinfoil hat view of the world.

Nowadays? It just feels like tomorrow's news.

Read that article again: E-mail providers that provide end-to-end security are preferring to shutter their doors than to go on any further with the security breaches that they have, courtesy of Uncle Sam. If the NSA has its way, there is no such thing as communication that they don't know about. I don't think any of you here (especially those of you who somehow view me as some sort of Communist- and I know you're out there) would view me as any kind of Libertarian, but this is one area where I just can't get behind what's going on.
 
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ok guys, blaming bush for everything under the sun is kind of funny once in a while, and even claiming to have proof that ronald reagan is secretly satan can be somewhat amusing in a pathetic way, but... "richard nixon", really? This whole debate reeks of a desperate attempt to distract from the obama<strike>care</strike> fiasco.

fyp :D
 
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Looks like I hooked a oldy conservative fish. Dick Nixon was and is an effin' disgrace.

Who's on tape ordering the CIA to interfere with the FBI's investigation of his activities?

Who instructed his henchmen to plan campaign literature from his opponent in the apartment of George Wallace's attempted assassin?

Who needed a pardon from Gerald Ford not just for Watergate but for any and all other crimes committed by Tricky Dicky given that his own finances and his dirty tricks campaign were under scrutiny.

Who gave the United States its worst Constitutional crisis since the Civil War?

Who's the only President to resign, and who only did so after it became beyond a shadow of a doubt that he'd be forced out of office whether he liked it or not?

Yeah, I'm sure Nixon was nice to his family and kind to animals and all that, but the guy was a joke. One only wonders why cons are so willing to defend the criminal.

Does this mean Nixon's ineligible for the Teddy Kennedy "morality" award? Since Teddy never lost his "legislative effectiveness", a little killing and coverup along the way is acceptable?
 
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Wrong (with all due respect)

It used to be a goofy, paranoid slippery slope argument that private communication of all forms would be outlawed. I used to get a lot of laughs at the Truther/Alex Jones types that would subscribe to such a tinfoil hat view of the world.

Nowadays? It just feels like tomorrow's news.

Read that article again: E-mail providers that provide end-to-end security are preferring to shutter their doors than to go on any further with the security breaches that they have, courtesy of Uncle Sam. If the NSA has its way, there is no such thing as communication that they don't know about. I don't think any of you here (especially those of you who somehow view me as some sort of Communist- and I know you're out there) would view me as any kind of Libertarian, but this is one area where I just can't get behind what's going on.

I'm a card-carrying member of the ACLU and went to DC to lobby against this type of crap. Of course, back then we were all a bunch of liberal loons who were against the government because we hated America and secretly were cheering on the terrorists. What we heard a lot was "If you aren't doing anything wrong..." so I find it amusing that people suddenly feel the government is intruding on them. Too bad so few of them cared back when it might have made a difference. But hey, the good news is that if you aren't doing anything wrong...
 
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