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2024 Elections: One Last Chance for Democracy

dxmnkd316 said:
So a word of caution on this story. Its background is a very thinly sourced email from a single forest service employee. I'm not sure this account has been corroborated.
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CNN reporting they’ve arrested a 44-year-old white dude in Rutherford County, NC for threatening to kill FEMA employees. He was armed with a rifle and handgun.
 
psych said:
CNN reporting they’ve arrested a 44-year-old white dude in Rutherford County, NC for threatening to kill FEMA employees. He was armed with a rifle and handgun.
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I think that is a different story...but who knows anymore. My question is...why? Do they think FEMA is there to take away resources? Do they think FEMA is about to drop off some Haitians to eat the dogs and cats? What is the endgame here. If you are mad you aren't getting help threatening the people bringing help seems counterintuitive.**



**yes I know I am looking for logic in the illogical but since I am not reading any of this stuff I am missing a lot of the context. Is there some rumor going around FEMA is doing something nefarious or is this just cause Trump keeps lying despite even being fact checked by Laura Ingraham?
 
I didn’t even realize there was more than one story of people threatening FEMA employees. My fault if that’s a separate story. Man, I wish Joe Biden and Kamala Harris would tone down the rhetoric.
 
Handyman said:
I think that is a different story...but who knows anymore. My question is...why? Do they think FEMA is there to take away resources? Do they think FEMA is about to drop off some Haitians to eat the dogs and cats? What is the endgame here. If you are mad you aren't getting help threatening the people bringing help seems counterintuitive.**



**yes I know I am looking for logic in the illogical but since I am not reading any of this stuff I am missing a lot of the context. Is there some rumor going around FEMA is doing something nefarious or is this just cause Trump keeps lying despite even being fact checked by Laura Ingraham?
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There are rumors going around that FEMA's main purpose (after the government created these storms of course) is to exterminate people (yes, actually kill them) on certain lands so the government can seize their property. I kid you not.

People like joecct (just look at the sh*t he posted a few days ago) and Drew are advocates of these rumors...
 
Russell Jaslow said:
There are rumors going around that FEMA's main purpose (after the government created these storms of course) is to exterminate people (yes, actually kill them) on certain lands so the government can seize their property. I kid you not.

People like joecct (just look at the sh*t he posted a few days ago) and Drew are advocates of these rumors...
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Pretty much the entire MAGA wing, and 3 of my neighbors for sure.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
There are rumors going around that FEMA's main purpose (after the government created these storms of course) is to exterminate people (yes, actually kill them) on certain lands so the government can seize their property. I kid you not.

People like joecct (just look at the sh*t he posted a few days ago) and Drew are advocates of these rumors...
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Jesus they are recycling the old Obama Era crap only now skipping the death camps under Walmart and just straight extermination? Flaggy must be so pleased...

I still find it funny that Elmo posted no one believes the Dems control the weather and his psychos all basically told him they do. If he takes a few days off from the "Special K" and sobers up his people are going to kill him.
 
Handyman said:
Apparently he is a "sovereign citizen" who ran for state assembly in Nevada as a Republican and is saying to the press he is a Trump supporter who has no idea why he was arrested. His Insta is filled with selfies of people associated with Trump including Steve Bannon and Steven Miller. He runs a web site/media group called "Rage Against the Mainstream Media".

https://time.com/7086534/donald-trump-coachella-rally-man-arrested-loaded-gun-vem-miller/
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As I said, good ol' patriotic 'Murican exercising his 2A rights.
 
Handyman said:
I think that is a different story...but who knows anymore. My question is...why? Do they think FEMA is there to take away resources? Do they think FEMA is about to drop off some Haitians to eat the dogs and cats? What is the endgame here. If you are mad you aren't getting help threatening the people bringing help seems counterintuitive.**



**yes I know I am looking for logic in the illogical but since I am not reading any of this stuff I am missing a lot of the context. Is there some rumor going around FEMA is doing something nefarious or is this just cause Trump keeps lying despite even being fact checked by Laura Ingraham?
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They think FEMA is there to boot them off their property so the evil gubmint can seize it, and also the evil gubmint is there to seize the lithium mines, or some such shit.
 
Fasc says more fasc stuff.

Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.

In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.

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Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden.

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After initially saying election chaos would not come from his side, Trump launched a vituperative attack on his opponents when the interviewer, Maria Bartiromo, raised the possibility of outside agitators or immigrants who had committed crimes.

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people,” he said on Fox’s Sunday Morning Futures programme.

“It should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by the national guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”

Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian and expert on fascism at New York University, told NBC that Trump was flagging up what he planned to do as president, which she compared to the “‘strongman’ ruling templates of Viktor Orban, Narendra Modi and Vladimir Putin, the leaders of Hungary, India and Russia respectively.

“He’s actually rehearsing, in a sense, what he would be doing as head of state, which is what Orban does, Modi is doing, Putin has long done,” she said.
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Dump is losing the burbs.

Before Biden dropped out, Trump was leading him 43% to 40% among suburbanites in Reuters/Ipsos polls conducted in June and July, reflecting the Democrat's struggle to energize supporters.

Harris began closing the gap when she launched her campaign in July and led Trump 47% to 41% among suburban voters in polling across September and October. That represents a nine-point swing in the Democrat's favor, according to the analysis of six Reuters/Ipsos polls that included responses from over 6,000 registered voters.

During the same periods, Trump went from leading Biden 44% to 37% among voters in households that earn between $50,000 and $100,000 - roughly the middle third of the nation - to trail Harris 43% to 45%, also a nine-point swing away from Trump. The figures had margins of error of around 3 percentage points.

Trump carried this group 52%-47% in 2020, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of exit polls.
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RaceBoarder said:
So, ummmmm....

Why the hell is Harris going on Fox News for an interview? Why give them the ammo?
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In part to troll Trump...and it worked. His people are going nuts over it. Plus it will annoy the NYTimes...

Plus its part of the outreach to older and "less Trumpy" GOPers. Walz was on Faux last week. Baier isn't going to play gotcha with her.
 
Handyman said:
In part to troll Trump...and it worked. His people are going nuts over it. Plus it will annoy the NYTimes...

Plus its part of the outreach to older and "less Trumpy" GOPers. Walz was on Faux last week. Baier isn't going to play gotcha with her.
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Someone suggested that she just call in to Fox and Friends.
 
Handyman said:
In part to troll Trump...and it worked. His people are going nuts over it. Plus it will annoy the NYTimes...

Plus its part of the outreach to older and "less Trumpy" GOPers. Walz was on Faux last week. Baier isn't going to play gotcha with her.
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I look at it as Fox hedging a bit.
 
Trump had a "Town Hall" in Philly that answered 5 questions told them to vote on January 5th, stopped, told them to play music and said the event was over after 20 minutes.
 
state of hockey said:
I look at it as Fox hedging a bit.
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Oh no doubt...Faux sees what is happening and they can't afford for their viewers to die because that pr!ck is lying. I mean they never fact check him live and yet they did a couple times already. Plus Baier is already on his [bleep] list. He prefers Newsmax lately...

A lot of Liberals are upset she is doing it (as is Time Magazine...teehee) saying it serves her no purpose but I disagree. If even 1/10,000 Faux viewers changes their mind about her it helps. Plus what better way to show you don't fear the media than to go on antagonistic TV and show you aren't a crazy loonbat socialist. Think how often Pete is on their and how you never really hear the loonies going after him.

Honestly, everything he turns down she should do. Make him look small and weak and running away from her.
 
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