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2024 Election Thread

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Today's the day we find out how much bite (if any) Rashida's primary protest has. Dems who support Biden should have no reason to crossover in this primary, so it's also a decent test of how much Trump needs to worry about winning over Haley voters.
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She’s still putting out her little tik toks or wherever she posts her stupid videos
 
There is nothing local on the ballot so I didn't bother. I wouldn't read into the vote totals too much on what is a virtually uncontested primary on both sides.
 
Handyman said:
Newsom is crushing it out there. He made Kristen Welker look foolish when he was on Meet the Press when her questions went Anti-Biden. The guy may be an egomaniac but he is definitely using his powers for good right now.

And nimrods in Cali of course are trying to recall him for like the 10000000000 time...cause reasons?
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A $73 BILLION budget deficit is crushing a lot in Cali. Cause Reason #1.

Speaking of deficit's, did you see that Ultra MAGA Jeff Bezos moved to zero tax Florida RIGHT BEFORE selling $ 2Billion worth of Amazon stock. Saved himself a cool $ 400,000,000 in WA taxes, while hosing out the "progressive" citizens of that state from the same $400,000,000. Doesnt appear that he is exactly paying his fair share now, does it?
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Today's the day we find out how much bite (if any) Rashida's primary protest has. Dems who support Biden should have no reason to crossover in this primary, so it's also a decent test of how much Trump needs to worry about winning over Haley voters.
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Well considering how math works...even if every Muslim went uncommitted it wouldn't really matter all that much. It isn't like there are a million Muslims barely a third of that.

Let them send their message...the media will eat it up (even if Trump has simar numbers) but anyone who can add will know the score.
 
Handyman said:
Well considering how math works...even if every Muslim went uncommitted it wouldn't really matter all that much. It isn't like there are a million Muslims barely a third of that.

Let them send their message...the media will eat it up (even if Trump has simar numbers) but anyone who can add will know the score.
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I read yesterday that 2022 supposedly had 150k Muslims voting for Biden. Their point was 150k is enough to flip the state but that would require most of them to flip and probably lower turnout. Not sure how much I trust those numbers tho
 
trump wins Michigan primary with 67% of the vote. He is crushing it. Biden wins Michigan primary with 80% of the vote. He is in deep trouble. I don't see how you can possibly see it any other way.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I read yesterday that 2022 supposedly had 150k Muslims voting for Biden. Their point was 150k is enough to flip the state but that would require most of them to flip and probably lower turnout. Not sure how much I trust those numbers tho
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Yes in a depressed vote that would be a big problem. There is no evidence that will happen though.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
trump wins Michigan primary with 67% of the vote. He is crushing it. Biden wins Michigan primary with 80% of the vote. He is in deep trouble. I don't see how you can possibly see it any other way.
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I think we know that is how the media is going to play this.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Uncommitted gets 75% of the Dearborn vote

I hope this fills Rashida’s cup
time to be an adult now
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Right? Like it's fine (and even good!) to do what she did. It's how you actually move the needle. She got the admin's attention.

Now she needs to toe the line and endorse him any time she feels appropriate between now and October. This doesn't mean she has to stop pushing the admin towards a ceasefire. She should! But she eventually has to come around to the idea that only a vote for Biden is a vote for what she wants and literally every other option is a vote for nuking Palestine.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Right? Like it's fine (and even good!) to do what she did. It's how you actually move the needle. She got the admin's attention.

Now she needs to toe the line and endorse him any time she feels appropriate between now and October. This doesn't mean she has to stop pushing the admin towards a ceasefire. She should! But she eventually has to come around to the idea that only a vote for Biden is a vote for what she wants and literally every other option is a vote for nuking Palestine.
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This just boils down to old-school politics: You have your public facing opinions that you use to garner "local" support, but behind closed doors, you toe the party line. I don't think she's gonna go Free-dumb Caucus and burn everything down just so she can get video clips and soundbites to drum up social media support.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Right? Like it's fine (and even good!) to do what she did. It's how you actually move the needle. She got the admin's attention.

Now she needs to toe the line and endorse him any time she feels appropriate between now and October. This doesn't mean she has to stop pushing the admin towards a ceasefire. She should! But she eventually has to come around to the idea that only a vote for Biden is a vote for what she wants and literally every other option is a vote for nuking Palestine.
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Yup. She accomplished her goals and she did it (so far) the right way. And she should 100% push for a ceasefire publicly based on this result but if she doesn't endorse by the Convention then she likely becomes persona non grata even amongst her peers. I am not really all that worried about it yet because even CNN was saying some on the ground who were interviewed admitted their opinions might change in November.

From the sounds of it though it might be moot...Biden seems pretty confident a deal is within reach.
 
RaceBoarder said:
This just boils down to old-school politics: You have your public facing opinions that you use to garner "local" support, but behind closed doors, you toe the party line. I don't think she's gonna go Free-dumb Caucus and burn everything down just so she can get video clips and soundbites to drum up social media support.
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She seems smarter than that absolutely.
 
My thoughts:

1. This is petty, but I have to laugh that Liquor Man couldn't even beat "Crystals" Williamson, who already dropped out. :-D

2. The bad news for Dump, despite his win, is that his numbers in purple Oakland and Kent Counties were soft. Even in oft-maligned Ottawa County, the heart of West Shore Michigan conservaderp, Haley managed to syphon off a third of R votes. Keep in mind, she spent almost no time and very little money here.

3. The total ballots cast was about 1.9 million (~750k Dem and ~1.1m R), which is less than the 2.3 million who voted in Michigan's 2020 primary and 2.6 million who voted in the 2016 primary. Voter enthusiasm for the rematch is obviously poor at the moment, and considering Trumpism's ongoing struggles in key suburban areas since 2018, that likely bodes worse for Cheeto than it does for Biden.

4. The "uncommitted" protest was predictably overblown. The majority of those folks will turn out for Biden in the end, no matter what the media says (and they're already wringing their hands). He still broke 80% no problem.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
My thoughts:

1. This is petty, but I have to laugh that Liquor Man couldn't even beat "Crystals" Williamson, who already dropped out. :-D

2. The bad news for Dump, despite his win, is that his numbers in purple Oakland and Kent Counties were soft. Even in oft-maligned Ottawa County, the heart of West Shore Michigan conservaderp, Haley managed to syphon off a third of R votes. Keep in mind, she spent almost no time and very little money here.

3. The total ballots cast was about 1.9 million (~750k Dem and ~1.1m R), which is less than the 2.3 million who voted in Michigan's 2020 primary and 2.6 million who voted in the 2016 primary. Voter enthusiasm for the rematch is obviously poor at the moment, and considering Trumpism's ongoing struggles in key suburban areas since 2018, that likely bodes worse for Cheeto than it does for Biden.

4. The "uncommitted" protest was predictably overblown. The majority of those folks will turn out for Biden in the end, no matter what the media says (and they're already wringing their hands). He still broke 80% no problem.
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It is a trend now...Republican enthusiasm for Trump is waning when it comes to voter turnout. I realize that John King and Chris Kornacki don't want to talk about it because it makes their big board way less needed, but the truth is Trump is running out of money (as per usual) and even as he steamrolls to the inevitable there is no massive wave of enthusiasm and support like you would expect. He should be getting Biden numbers or close to it. Haley is a dead fish who spends all of her time ripping him, which plays to his one strength. (counter-attack) Yet he has nothing for her and can't really shake the fact she is dividing up the GOP vote. (for now) If they had a true moderate option Trump would be in serious trouble because his numbers are soft.

I am not worried about the uncommitted vote in any way. If even half of that 100k revert back to Biden things will be fine imho. And as Slap Shot posted, Biden can fix his issue.
 
Actually I would bet he doesn't...the amount of basic things that pan faced incel doesn't understand is kind of scary.

Then again he still rails on COVID crap and his mentor literally died of it.
 
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