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2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

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That's why I'm advocating for a candidate who is the most interested in regulating our own government's foreign policy and the one who is most likely to put pressure on other nations who act badly. This is the area where the president has the most unilateral power to act on their* own.

That's the best (and to your point the only) mechanism for stopping it especially given our nation's power and footprint size in the foreign realm.
 
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Ahead of his time this year... look for him as a rising star in the future.

I don't see anything about Moulton that suggests "star" to me. He seems like a backbencher who inexplicably took a flier on the big job cuz, I dunno, bored maybe?

I don't know what MA-6 is like but I would think we could do better there. I don't get the impression he's going to be fearlessly leading any liberal causes.
 
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"Obama’s guidelines prioritized the deportation of gang members, those who posed a national security risk and those who had committed felonies."

That took 10 seconds and I'm on a cell phone roaming in South Africa.

(this is where you move the goal posts and whine about Pelosi :D)

He's rolling.
 
You are missing the point. Our foreign policy is not informed by moral considerations. It never has been. All language apparently to the contrary has been bullsh-t. All actions apparently to the contrary have been dictated by real politik purposes.

Ethics in foreign relations is non-operative. It's like God: just because everybody talks about it doesn't make it real.

No you are missing the point...I am agreeing with you :)
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

Early Minnesota Bean Poll has it:

Warren

Klobuchar, Pete



Biden
Sanders

Harris
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

So you are a Conservadem too now? ;). Welcome Fade has your orientation packet ready and there is snacks and refreshments in the next room:D

:D

We will begin by reading the W.C. Preamble:

There are substantial mandatory dinner engagement and cocktail party fees due for W.C. membership; we are supported through contributions from Tom Steyer, George Soros, and other wealthy donors. W.C. is allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution who aren't fascists and are willing to make a contribution; we engage in plenty of knuck owning, and fully endorse any causes supported by the Clintons and Obama.

Please bow your heads and join hands for the Conservadem Prayer:

I am a Warmongering Conservadem
And I like money
I'll pay more taxes if I have to
I guess...
 
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We will begin by reading the W.C. Preamble:

There are substantial mandatory dinner engagement and cocktail party fees due for W.C. membership; we are supported through contributions from Tom Steyer, George Soros, and other wealthy donors. W.C. is allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution who aren't fascists and are willing to make a contribution; we engage in plenty of knuck owning, and fully endorse any causes supported by the Clintons and Obama.

Please bow your heads and join hands for the Conservadem Prayer:

I am a Warmongering Conservadem
And I like money
I'll pay more taxes if I have to
I guess...

Outstanding!
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

More MN state fair bean polls at the MN DFL booth:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Day 4 update on the DFl Bean Poll. Warren is in lead, with Pete and Amy virtually tied for 2nd. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mnstatefair?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mnstatefair</a> <a href="https://t.co/nZ7tkhfxCE">pic.twitter.com/nZ7tkhfxCE</a></p>— MN for Pete Buttigieg (@MN4Pete) <a href="https://twitter.com/MN4Pete/status/1165687863423447040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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There was another shot from today on the candidate results, but the MN4Pete account had the better picture showing Warren crushing the competition. I couldn't believe Sanders was so low. I'm not sure I would assign any significant value to this, but it's surprising to say the least.

Biden is also getting crushed. Fifth place, maybe sixth.


And an issues poll from the MN4Pete booth:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Day 4 Bean Poll results from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MN4Pete?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MN4Pete</a> booth at the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mnstatefair?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mnstatefair</a> <a href="https://t.co/WTkicXlpYi">pic.twitter.com/WTkicXlpYi</a></p>— MN for Pete Buttigieg (@MN4Pete) <a href="https://twitter.com/MN4Pete/status/1165815076294729728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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How does the bean thing even work? Like do you personally go to that booth, they give you a bean, and you put it in the tube for whoever?
 
Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

How does the bean thing even work? Like do you personally go to that booth, they give you a bean, and you put it in the tube for whoever?

I can't entirely remember because I didn't vote. But I think you had to essentially sign up for their (the DFL's) email list. I think...

Then they gave you a bean and you walk up and drop it in.

It's a pretty standard straw poll.
 
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