2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

[mookie1995]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Who's going to convince her that it's still not her turn?

why do you hate women?!?!

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

But here's where you and I may differ. Pick ONE or TWO issues to say ONE thing about and that's it!!!! Keep it simple. The most obvious one is health care. The 2nd one is the rich paying their fair share.

I agree with this completely. In fact my "keep it simple" is even easier. Don't advocate new targeted taxes at all. Go right to the tax code and set forward a very simple restoration of the multi-tiered system. Focus on the median income and go from there. 10% on median / 2, 20% on the median, 30% on m x 2, 40% on median x 3, up to 90%. The end. Roll everything into the general fund, no more dedicated taxes, no more difference in cap gains and earned income. That's as simple as you can get.

 

[walrus]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

I agree with this completely. In fact my "keep it simple" is even easier. Don't advocate new targeted taxes at all. Go right to the tax code and set forward a very simple restoration of the multi-tiered system. Focus on the median income and go from there. 10% on median / 2, 20% on the median, 30% on m x 2, 40% on median x 3, up to 90%. The end. Roll everything into the general fund, no more dedicated taxes, no more difference in cap gains and earned income. That's as simple as you can get.

Yeah, that ought to get the dems some votes. What world do you live in?

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[joecct]

Yeah, that ought to get the dems some votes. What world do you live in?

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It will get the votes they are currently getting. You want voters who have not been pulling the D lever.

We're currently into identity politics. We used to practice assimilation politics. Maybe that's a path you should try?

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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Yeah, that ought to get the dems some votes. What world do you live in?

No, that's not the pull. The pull is single payer.

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

We're currently into identity politics. We used to practice assimilation politics. Maybe that's a path you should try?

Climate change and health care are the most basic assimilation politics: "come with me if you want to live."

 

[Jimjamesak]

Climate change and health care are the most basic assimilation politics: "come with me if you want to live."

Climate change won't bring **** all to the polls. It's about money, it's always about money. Stick to money and health care.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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The biggest thing for me is that all income should be treated the same except for inheritance.

Cap gains, regular income, dividends. All of it.

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

The biggest thing for me is that all income should be treated the same except for inheritance.

Cap gains, regular income, dividends. All of it.

I agreed. Inheritance over some magic number ($10M maybe?) as well.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Taxes, healthcare, and infrastructure. Let's stick with those three as the bulk of the platform, because everyone cares about them.

Climate change is a losing issue. You either believe 1) The majority of the scientific community is correct that it's happening and we're to blame, or 2) It's all fake news manufactured by China/the deep state, the scientists were paid off, and it's costing you employment. Certainly, once Dems are elected and in the majority, they should work on environmental causes, but on the campaign trail it should be a side note.

Abortion on-demand is a losing issue, and on this particular subject, Democrats continue to lose ground every year in the collective opinion of all Americans. Again, once Dems are elected and in the majority, they should support its continued legality, but on the campaign trail it should be a side note.

Gun control is a losing issue, even Kep has acknowledged this recently. I wouldn't even bring it up as part of the platform, other than to encourage responsible ownership and safety.

Socialized college tuition is a losing issue, especially when so many of our public K-12 schools are failing.

 

[joecct]

The biggest thing for me is that all income should be treated the same except for inheritance.

Cap gains, regular income, dividends. All of it.

municipal bonds? I agree with the principle.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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Secondary issues that should get attention are immigration reform (blanket amnesty is not going to win over people who were on the fence), and a comprehensive proposal for fixing public K-12 education.

 

[walrus]

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Climate change won't bring **** all to the polls. It's about money, it's always about money. Stick to money and health care.

It's always about money, then personality

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[Kepler]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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Taxes, healthcare, and infrastructure. Let's stick with those three as the bulk of the platform, because everyone cares about them.

In the policy taxes. In the ads, jerbs.

 

[Kepler]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

It's always about money, then personality

Reagan proved it's the reverse. If you can fake a connection with The People, they will slit their own throats for you.

There's a reason Trump crowed "I love the poorly educated!"

 

[mookie1995]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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Socialized college tuition is a losing issue, especially when so many of our public K-12 schools are failing.

is this a real phrase now for public schools? "socialized schools"?

if anything all this FREE tuition stuff should be terms "public" schools. whyn't some state schools that don't want to be part of the program - like cherished research govt money hogs such as umtc - remain state schools and charge tuition to attract students. let the newly coined public universities give advanced education for no tuition.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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municipal bonds? I agree with the principle.

Nope. That's just another investment vehicle. Tax them the exact same way.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

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Secondary issues that should get attention are immigration reform (blanket amnesty is not going to win over people who were on the fence), and a comprehensive proposal for fixing public K-12 education.

things like this shouldn't be talked about, just DONE once in.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

The biggest thing for me is that all income should be treated the same except for inheritance.

Cap gains, regular income, dividends. All of it.

many founders believed inheritance as well should be treated differently. taxed at 100% different. mookie agrees.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Re: 2018 Midterms 1: "Elections aren't just about who votes but who doesn't vote."

Climate change and health care are the most basic assimilation politics: "come with me if you want to live."

nope. these 2 are not ever grouped together. CC is global, while HC is local. CC is down the road, while HC is around the bend.

focus on what people can touch today.