Mine were the "great"Kubrick films. CWO and 2001 are absolute rubbish.
Kubrick: Paths of Glory. Along with All Quiet on the Western Front, one of the best anti war films ever made.
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2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
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Kubrick: Paths of Glory. Along with All Quiet on the Western Front, one of the best anti war films ever made.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
I've enjoyed CWO more with each additional viewing. I've had the opposite result with 2001. My first reaction to 2001 was, "Not sure what just happened, but I am intrigued". 3 or 4 viewings later it was, "F##k you, you ***#ing piece of s##t!".
I've enjoyed CWO more with each additional viewing. I've had the opposite result with 2001. My first reaction to 2001 was, "Not sure what just happened, but I am intrigued". 3 or 4 viewings later it was, "F##k you, you ***#ing piece of s##t!".
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Give the book a try. It's kind of a hard read because he wrote it in the dialect. But as usual it's much deeper and richer than the movie because it has more time to develop and explore.
For some reason I remember the "horse on the stairwell" scene from The Commitments as actually having been in Anthony Burgess' book. That might just be because he spends a lot of time describing the anonymous housing that most people live in. Kubrick did a great job of highlighting this in contrast by filming the stolen speeding car going out to the wealthy suburbs.
Also the book has a glossary and an essay on the language, which is a mix of English and Russian. Also, being Burgess, it's VERY political.
In any case, since seeing the movie of CWO I've never been able to hear the William Tell Overture again in the same way.
Give the book a try. It's kind of a hard read because he wrote it in the dialect. But as usual it's much deeper and richer than the movie because it has more time to develop and explore.
For some reason I remember the "horse on the stairwell" scene from The Commitments as actually having been in Anthony Burgess' book. That might just be because he spends a lot of time describing the anonymous housing that most people live in. Kubrick did a great job of highlighting this in contrast by filming the stolen speeding car going out to the wealthy suburbs.
Also the book has a glossary and an essay on the language, which is a mix of English and Russian. Also, being Burgess, it's VERY political.
In any case, since seeing the movie of CWO I've never been able to hear the William Tell Overture again in the same way.
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That, Natural Born Killers, and The Deerhunter. Great works of cinematic art that I will never watch a second time. and I really like the movie Singing in the Rain. Hard to see it the same way since.
I've never seen the movie version of Lord of the Flies but if they did as good a job with that movie as the author did with the book, that's another movie that would fit the "disturbing yet enthralling" category. Though it's hard to imagine the irony of the boys being "rescued" by a warship during wartime would resonate as much on film as it did in text.
That, Natural Born Killers, and The Deerhunter. Great works of cinematic art that I will never watch a second time. and I really like the movie Singing in the Rain. Hard to see it the same way since.
I've never seen the movie version of Lord of the Flies but if they did as good a job with that movie as the author did with the book, that's another movie that would fit the "disturbing yet enthralling" category. Though it's hard to imagine the irony of the boys being "rescued" by a warship during wartime would resonate as much on film as it did in text.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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I've never seen it (or, somehow, read it) but I've heard the movie is not nearly as disturbing as the book.
In that vein, another thing that's really disturbing is the 19th century public (meaning: private) school 1971 BBC TV serial "Tom Brown's School Days." It portrays the hazing of younger boys by the older boys, hinting at if not actually showing rape, in a way that as a 12 or 13-year old watching it completely freaked me out.
I've never seen it (or, somehow, read it) but I've heard the movie is not nearly as disturbing as the book.
In that vein, another thing that's really disturbing is the 19th century public (meaning: private) school 1971 BBC TV serial "Tom Brown's School Days." It portrays the hazing of younger boys by the older boys, hinting at if not actually showing rape, in a way that as a 12 or 13-year old watching it completely freaked me out.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Never seen Clockwork Orange, but does "Requiem for a Dream" fit under "disturbing, yet enthralling?"
I own the DVD, played it once (back in 2004), and haven't played it since.
Never seen Clockwork Orange, but does "Requiem for a Dream" fit under "disturbing, yet enthralling?"
I own the DVD, played it once (back in 2004), and haven't played it since.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
I remember that TV series. Parts of it still resonate with me today.
I remember that TV series. Parts of it still resonate with me today.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Russian track and field athletes banned from participating in the Olympics in Rio.
Russian track and field athletes banned from participating in the Olympics in Rio.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Technically, they were already banned.
It's just that the appeals court upheld the ban. Now the other half of the fun begins -- what decision is made for the rest of the Russian athletes?
Technically, they were already banned.
It's just that the appeals court upheld the ban. Now the other half of the fun begins -- what decision is made for the rest of the Russian athletes?
Hammer
We'll be back.
Technically, they were already banned.
It's just that the appeals court upheld the ban. Now the other half of the fun begins -- what decision is made for the rest of the Russian athletes?
Ban them too.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Nicely done.
There was a story on the artistic synchronized swimmers getting the shaft on BBC. Pretty clearly they never did anything wrong but if the whole team is banned they will be too. I guess the only ones who would be allowed to compete under a different flag are those who were training in another country. If there are non-Russian athletes who trained with the Russians they would be banned too, which would REALLY suck. Back in the Soviet era the Russians used to help train African teams for the international goodwill -- not sure if they still do.
Nicely done.
There was a story on the artistic synchronized swimmers getting the shaft on BBC. Pretty clearly they never did anything wrong but if the whole team is banned they will be too. I guess the only ones who would be allowed to compete under a different flag are those who were training in another country. If there are non-Russian athletes who trained with the Russians they would be banned too, which would REALLY suck. Back in the Soviet era the Russians used to help train African teams for the international goodwill -- not sure if they still do.
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Perhaps, rather than ban the dopers, they might just have another category of competition instead?
Let them use whatever they want and have a separate set of competitions for them.
Sort of like how UFC tries to maintain a "clean" image while WWE, not so much....
Though I actually am conflicted when I think about it seriously. For awhile I thought that laws that require motorcycle riders to wear helmets might be an infringement on personal liberty ("no other victim but the reckless person himself" type of tripe), until I heard from an EMT that when they respond to a crash with a helmetless cyclist involved, the cyclist isn't the only one affected by his/her choice not to wear a helmet, it is a gruesome task for them to deal with the mess he left behind. I changed my mind about the law after that, it isn't solely to protect the cyclists after all....
Perhaps, rather than ban the dopers, they might just have another category of competition instead?
Let them use whatever they want and have a separate set of competitions for them.
Sort of like how UFC tries to maintain a "clean" image while WWE, not so much....
Though I actually am conflicted when I think about it seriously. For awhile I thought that laws that require motorcycle riders to wear helmets might be an infringement on personal liberty ("no other victim but the reckless person himself" type of tripe), until I heard from an EMT that when they respond to a crash with a helmetless cyclist involved, the cyclist isn't the only one affected by his/her choice not to wear a helmet, it is a gruesome task for them to deal with the mess he left behind. I changed my mind about the law after that, it isn't solely to protect the cyclists after all....
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
Which is why I'm in favor of each sport's governing body making the ruling instead of the IOC make a blanket decision.
Which is why I'm in favor of each sport's governing body making the ruling instead of the IOC make a blanket decision.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
There's also the costs (and not just dollars) of caring for a helmetless motorcyclists who is in a vegetative state despite "pulling" the plug.
Then there is the flipside. I knew someone who visited hospitals to maintain medical equipment his company sold. He was in Florida shortly after they passed their no helmet law. He asked the doctors and nurses there what they thought of the new law.
They said, "We are getting a lot more young, viable organs donated..."
There's also the costs (and not just dollars) of caring for a helmetless motorcyclists who is in a vegetative state despite "pulling" the plug.
Then there is the flipside. I knew someone who visited hospitals to maintain medical equipment his company sold. He was in Florida shortly after they passed their no helmet law. He asked the doctors and nurses there what they thought of the new law.
They said, "We are getting a lot more young, viable organs donated..."
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: 2016 Summer Olympics - Ready or not, here we come!!
http://deadspin.com/rio-olympics-athletes-village-declared-uninhabitable-1784219622
And so it begins...
I'm curious to see how the next two weeks play out. Are things really as bad as they are made out to be? Once the games got rolling after a few days, all the horrors of Sochi seemed to die out. Hopefully Rio will follow that route. At least with social media we can see for ourselves and we don't need to rely on NBC.
http://deadspin.com/rio-olympics-athletes-village-declared-uninhabitable-1784219622
And so it begins...
I'm curious to see how the next two weeks play out. Are things really as bad as they are made out to be? Once the games got rolling after a few days, all the horrors of Sochi seemed to die out. Hopefully Rio will follow that route. At least with social media we can see for ourselves and we don't need to rely on NBC.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
If a country with oil dollars can't make it work how much longer will Olympics keep happening. The graft behind the scenes must be unreal.