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2015-2016 USCHO Posters Poll

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IMO, #10 is the tough part. Maybe it is because BU has looked lousy every time I've watched the Terriers, and a bunch of ECAC teams have yet to separate from each other.
 
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A reprint from last week, with new order and some new comments:

1 Wisconsin - because they are really, really, really good
2 Minnesota - because they are really, really good (and can't wait to see if they take a "really" away from Wisco 12/4 and 12/5)
3 Boston College - because they are really good
4 Quinnipiac - because all they needed to do was put some pucks in the net, and they did
5 Harvard - because now everyone is moving up to where I already had them last week
6 Bemidji - because I don't penalize any team for losing to #1 and #2 and not losing to anyone else (I ignored the shoot-out loss)
7 Northeastern - because while they have looked really good against lesser teams, it wasn't good enough to beat BC or look like a top team vs Harvard
8 UND - because this team is pretty good, despite losing to Ohio State even though they should have won
9 UMD - because the WCHA is the strongest conference right now, and they shouldn't be penalized for being the 5th WCHA team in this poll
10 Clarkson - because I already had them at 9 last week, so slipping one spot makes sense

Must game to see: Harvard at UMD this week is going to be the first East vs West game pitting two complete teams and a good indicator of conference strength.
On the fence... St Lawrence is so so so close to getting in this top 10, but they did lose to Clarkson early in the season, so there you have it.
Outside looking in... BU has street cred from past success, and on a good run, but they need to prove they aren't the team that lost two to Clarkson and got blasted by Northeastern
 
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Given that Grant is holding off till Wed, I will change the order due to the results from Tues night (when Hahvad beats Coyneastern) ;) .

Grant,

I will take your revised standings post 377. :D
 
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Must game to see: Harvard at UMD this week is going to be the first East vs West game pitting two complete teams and a good indicator of conference strength.

UW - Dartmouth is more compelling imho. They both have winning records for 1 thing. Dartmouth has already beaten Harvard and tied Clarkson. UMD has beaten the sue, along with Lindenwood and Mankato who have a combined 5 wins. UMD is not all that impressive.
 
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UW - Dartmouth is more compelling imho. They both have winning records for 1 thing. Dartmouth has already beaten Harvard and tied Clarkson. UMD has beaten the sue, along with Lindenwood and Mankato who have a combined 5 wins. UMD is not all that impressive.

If UW Dartmouth turns out to be more compelling, UW will have to be way overrated. It should be no contest.
 
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UMD has beaten the teams it should beat, and lost to those you'd expect. IMO, there is less drama in the DC at UW series because nobody expects the Badgers to lose, and it doesn't have the storylines that the Duluth series does. About the only intrigue is the Big Green bouncing Wisconsin out of its first ever NCAA Tournament.
 
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If UW Dartmouth turns out to be more compelling, UW will have to be way overrated. It should be no contest.

After crashing the stats it looks like Dartmouth is similar to Bemidji, except their goalie Chemago has awesome numbers, albeit over a smaller sample size (5 games). They have beat Harvard already, a team most are dying to rank in the top 6, and tied Clarkson, a 4-6 ranked team most of the year. I don't think this will be a OSU or MSU type of weekend for UW, maybe some 3-1 scores....a great goalie can be the equalizer. I think the unfamiliarity of the teams with each other will make the Friday game a bit of a more open game. Plus UW may be missing their 2 and 3rd best D again this weekend. I am confident from how UW has controlled all opponents so far this year but respectful of what Dartmouth has done so far this season.
 
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About the only intrigue is the Big Green bouncing Wisconsin out of its first ever NCAA Tournament.

Darmouth is one of the few teams that owns a winning record (3-2) over Wisconsin, though the last win was back in that 2005 NCAA tournament. They played a home-and-home series back in the first two seasons and the Badgers got the short end of the stick both times (took a 13-2 beating in Year 1).
 
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Week IX Posters Poll

Code:
[U][B]Rank Votes  Team (1st place votes)  [I]Range (Mode)[/I]  Last week (change)[/B][/U]
  1.   120  Wisconsin (12)          [I]1-2   (1)[/I]     1
  2.   105  Minnesota               [I]2-3   (2)[/I]     2 
  3.    99  Boston College          [I]2-3   (3)[/I]     3 
  4.    70  Quinnipiac              [I]4-7   (4)[/I]     8 (+4) 
  5.    68  Northeastern            [I]4-8   (4)[/I]     4 (-1)
  6.    62  Bemidji State           [I]5-7   (5)[/I]     6 
  7.    52  Harvard                 [I]4-8   (8)[/I]     7 
  8.    46  Clarkson                [I]4-10  (8)[/I]     5 (-3)
  9.    25  North Dakota            [I]8-9   (9)[/I]     9 
 10.     4  Boston University       [I]10-NR (10)[/I]    NR (+1) 
 
[U][B]Also Receiving Votes:[/B][/U]
         3  Dartmouth               [I]9-NR  (9.5)[/I]   ARV
         3  Minnesota-Duluth        [I]10-NR (10)[/I]    ARV
         1  Colgate                 [I]10-NR (10)[/I]    10 (-1)
         1  Princeton               [I]10-NR (10)[/I]    NR
         1  St. Lawrence            [I]10-NR (10)[/I]    NR
             
[U][B]Dropped Out:[/B][/U]
            None

Week IX chart: http://i.imgur.com/VjlB3qZ.jpg

That 4-9 cluster is abstract art.

Sorry this is late, my BC article last night took forever and I was tired.
 
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Darmouth is one of the few teams that owns a winning record (3-2) over Wisconsin, though the last win was back in that 2005 NCAA tournament. They played a home-and-home series back in the first two seasons and the Badgers got the short end of the stick both times (took a 13-2 beating in Year 1).
I agree; almost 20 years ago, Dartmouth was the better team. By 2005, IMO the Badgers had surpassed the Big Green but didn't seem to realize it when they played in March. As long as time travel isn't involved this weekend, UW will be fine.
 
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Even though women's hockey is seemingly the only team playing on campus this weekend, I don't expect a band. With that said, it's time to start lobbying for the band to be there for both games against Minnesota. It needs to be as hostile as an environment as possible.

As long as time travel isn't involved this weekend, UW will be fine.
Provided, of course, that Dartmouth doesn't bring its band and make the environment too hostile for the UW players. ;)
 
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Minn-Duluth would beat BU and Dartmouth if they were squaring off this weekend. MD deserved to be in top 10 this week.
They've got a tough one against Harvard, but I think these will be close matches.

Wisco v Dartmouth? Not close. (although every team would want Dartmouth's top players)
 
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Minn-Duluth would beat BU and Dartmouth if they were squaring off this weekend. MD deserved to be in top 10 this week.
Would they though? Before squeaking out one over NoDak last weekend their only wins on the year had been over Lindenwood and Mankato. I'm not saying they wouldn't beat BU or Dartmouth but those are probably even matchups, not slam dunks.
 
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I'm not saying they wouldn't beat BU or Dartmouth but those are probably even matchups, not slam dunks.
Agree with you here, but I also think it would depend on which BU team showed up. You just never know.
 
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UMD is the hardest team to rank, because they've played teams either near the top or near the bottom, and have had relatively close games with all of them. My sense is that the Bulldogs have improved, and shouldn't be judged by their October. I guess I'll find out today.
 
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Would they though? Before squeaking out one over NoDak last weekend their only wins on the year had been over Lindenwood and Mankato. I'm not saying they wouldn't beat BU or Dartmouth but those are probably even matchups, not slam dunks.

MD has played and lost to #1, #2, #3 and #6ish (Bemidj). They did well but they are what they are... not better than the top 6 or 7. But MD showed me a lot in those games. Plus, they split with #8ish NoDak. It think that's a pretty clear resume.

Dartmouth. I love the top of their roster, but they don't have the depth that the top teams have. Yes, they beat Harvard on opening night (I don't think that would happen at this point in the season). They tied Clarkson (who's early wins now seem less impressive) and Yale. They have looked good against RPI, Brown and Union. They outright lost to Maine. If you like Dartmouth, then you like Yale. Similar teams in many ways, and we saw what happened to Yale out west, right?

Boston University. If I ignore the two losses to Clarkson, the loss to Penn State, and the blowout by Northeastern, then maybe I can have confidence in this team. Maybe they've turned it around and their game vs BC might have mad you feel better about them. But I've got to ignore a lot to get them at the same level as MD.
 
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Have to agree with D2D and TTT, just don't see UMD as a clear or obvious favorite vs. BU or Dartmouth.

Maybe their results vs. Harvard will motivate me to rethink that. Good series for attempting to measure both combatants.
 
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Good series for attempting to measure both combatants.
Definitely. I do wish (like whoever said the other day in another thread) that it was UW vs. Harvard and Dartmouth vs. UMD rather than the other way around. But it's east vs. west nonetheless!
 
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