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2014-2015 Division I Scores & Results Thread

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bc6696 said:
How does Lindenwood beat Bemidji (or Bemidji lose to LU) and then lose to Minnesota ST????
Current score with 4 minutes to play in St Charles MSU 4 LU 1
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BSU went 4 or 5 games without a goal, that ended the second game with a 6 goal outburst. That is the same BSU team that hung MN's only loss on them. True it was while 3 top players were off at the 4-nations but that was not good.
 
bc6696 said:
How does Lindenwood beat Bemidji (or Bemidji lose to LU) and then lose to Minnesota ST????
Current score with 4 minutes to play in St Charles MSU 4 LU 1

Final 4-1
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These 2 teams play Fri and Sat also. Mankato and their 12 freshman are on the board! Congrats!
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
This needs to be a suspension. I'm sorry. She was down on the ice for five ******* minutes.
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It looked to me like Pfalzer's skate stuck a bit at impact, so that she got launched into the boards harder than she otherwise would have. I'm sure that the video will be reviewed by the league. In the meantime, my prayers that Pfalzer is okay.
 
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bc6696 said:
How does Lindenwood beat Bemidji (or Bemidji lose to LU) and then lose to Minnesota ST?
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I do think that MSU will be a moving target in the second half. They got Rogan back from injury and the rookies will start to adjust.
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
This needs to be a suspension. I'm sorry. She was down on the ice for five ******* minutes.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAEUs/2UGfytLb6nY/s501/TutinoBoarding.gif
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Well, I watched. Initially I thought that Pfalzer pulled up about 3-5 feet from the boards and Tutino skated through her as a result of her momentum. But after several looks it appears more like Pzalzer turned back towards the goal rather than up the boards as Tutino expected to. Regardless, a player needs to be in better control of themselves when following another player into the corner and prepared for the unexpected move. That was pretty bad and I would agree a suspension is in order. I've always thought that on hits like this that the suspension should last as long as the other player is out and unable to play. If it's a career-ending injury, then it should be for both players. Players would be pretty wary of the hit from behind or to the head if they knew they might be ending their own careers as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Pfalzer misses most if not all of the rest of the season after a hit like that - has to be a pretty major concussion (hoping that it isn't a neck or back injury as well). Thoughts out to her.

Did Lefort come back? It was quite clear that the BC D (Johnson?) tripped her intentionally from behind to try and prevent her goal and she also went into the boards pretty hard and possibly head first. I didn't see her after that I don't think and she wasn't on at the time of the Pfalzer hit unless I missed her - you would expect her to be on in the last 2 minutes of this game. If it wasn't a 4-3 game and it hadn't happened so fast, I would have suspected that this was a payback hit. Always makes you wonder though....
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
Did Lefort come back? It was quite clear that the BC D (Johnson?) tripped her intentionally from behind to try and prevent her goal and she also went into the boards pretty hard and possibly head first. I didn't see her after that I don't think and she wasn't on at the time of the Pfalzer hit unless I missed her - you would expect her to be on in the last 2 minutes of this game. If it wasn't a 4-3 game and it hadn't happened so fast, I would have suspected that this was a payback hit. Always makes you wonder though....
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I don't recall seeing Lefort but BC's video is so blurry I wouldn't have been able to tell if Gaudreau had switched jerseys with Carpenter. I haven't started working on the GIFs yet because I've been too wrapped up with the Pfalzer stuff but I'm looking forward to seeing what happened on Lefort's goal because I totally missed it. I'll post the GIF here when I'm done.
 
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That's a penalty, a major and a game DQ.

You can look at it and say the BC player ducked her head when she should have stood straight up (which is what she absolutely WOULD have done in a league where checking is allowed). You can say the BU player was turning away and did nothing more than make hips to hips contact as she was pursuing the puck.

You can say those things but you also have to say this all occurred within a couple of feet or so of the boards.

Checking from behind into the boards, without any question whatsoever.
 
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I know that the 1st period stats were grotesque, but the BC goalie really wasn't at fault on the first and third goals. Yes, she was shaky, but Poulin on a breakaway and then feeding Lefort on a 2-on-1 are usually going to wind up in the net anyway.
 
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ARM said:
I know that the 1st period stats were grotesque, but the BC goalie really wasn't at fault on the first and third goals. Yes, she was shaky, but Poulin on a breakaway and then feeding Lefort on a 2-on-1 are usually going to wind up in the net anyway.
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I only saw the last 25 minutes or so, but she also came up with some big saves to keep BU from notching their 4th. After a very rough start she did manage to stop something like 20 in a row, acquitting herself quite well, I'd say.

But the two penalties BU took (including the unfortunate 'too many men') were too much for them to overcome. It was a beautiful pass by Pfalzer to an uncovered Sullivan - always good to see a real nice play result in the winning goal which was certainly the case here. It's just too bad the game had to end the way it did; I really hope she's OK.
 
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D2D said:
I only saw the last 25 minutes or so, but she also came up with some big saves to keep BU from notching their 4th. After a very rough start she did manage to stop something like 20 in a row, acquitting herself quite well, I'd say.

But the two penalties BU took (including the unfortunate 'too many men') were too much for them to overcome. It was a beautiful pass by Pfalzer to an uncovered Sullivan - always good to see a real nice play result in the winning goal which was certainly the case here. It's just too bad the game had to end the way it did; I really hope she's OK.
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I hope Lefort is okay as well cuz that looked like a hack that would make Ulf proud.
 
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I scrolled back through Gametracker and it shows a 3rd period shot by Lefort. I thought that when Poulin (29) was out there in the BU must situations towards the end of the game that 9 (Lefort) was also there.
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
Here is Lefort's injury -- like I said I don't recall seeing her either way the rest of the game although I suspect she didn't return.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-brXMcQOQCK0/VK4ILc3zHQI/AAAAAAAAEWA/nyGwGCh_vyA/s501/5Lefort.gif

It's hard to tell -- Kaliya definitely takes a bit of a slash at her legs but she looks like she's already on her way down.

There's definitely no 'trip' in there. Slash, yes, but no trip.
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So, it's really a moot point as slashing and tripping are both penalties, but having had my referee's certification and been a practicing referee at one point in the not too distant past I'll say that while the motion was a slash at the start, it was clearly intended to remove Lefort from her feet and came from behind/the side across the front of her legs. She was NOT going down until contact was made with her legs by the stick (I think you're confusing a shooting follow-through with her starting to fall OR just making an excuse for Johnson because you're rightly peeved about Tutino). Although there is considerable latitude, most referees would probably call that a trip.

Regardless, the more important point was that Lefort got injured, possibly twice. It's now pretty clear to me she hit her head on the end boards as a result of sliding into them (and the teammate cradling her head after she hits the ice is a pretty good indicator of that one) and then Johnson slams into her from behind after that as a result of her tripping over Leforts legs after she is down, resulting in another collision with the boards (that one looks more lower body). Looking it over in slow mo, it is actually a pretty reckless play by Johnson on a player going full speed to the side of the net - I'd put it akin to a basketball player deliberately undercutting a player in the air going to the hoop and some pretty vicious NBA fights have occurred after a play like that. If I was on BU, I'd have been pretty PO'ed about that. So while the BC folks should be appropriately steamed about the Tutino hit, I think the BU folks have some cause to be upset as well. As noted, if it wasn't such a close game I'd be even more suspicious after watching it again that the Tutino hit was payback for the reckless play Johnson made.

As a follow-on, I saw Johnson make a couple of plays like that when she played for NAHA - hacking the feet out from a player who beat her. It's not something that speaks well of her.
 
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I'm obviously looking at this through maroon glasses here but it just looks to me like she's already going down. Johnson CLEARLY takes a slash, clearly, but I disagree that it's a move trying to take her off her feet. In fact she makes a quick slash and starts to turn again toward the net.

But like I said, I'm feeling pretty biased at the moment, so I'm willing to accept that I could be totally wrong.
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
I'm obviously looking at this through maroon glasses here but it just looks to me like she's already going down. Johnson CLEARLY takes a slash, clearly, but I disagree that it's a move trying to take her off her feet. In fact she makes a quick slash and starts to turn again toward the net.

But like I said, I'm feeling pretty biased at the moment, so I'm willing to accept that I could be totally wrong.
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IMHO I agree with HockeyEast33's assessment TTT. You can take off the Maroon glasses now.
 
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brookyone said:
I hope Lefort is okay as well cuz that looked like a hack that would make Ulf proud.
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When I watched it (a few times), it looks to me like Johnson put her leg into the back of Lefort's after the slash, causing her (and Johnson) to go down. A little hard to tell, but having seen Johnson make similar moves in the past, I'm less will ing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I thought the game was pretty sloppy, with far more unforced turnovers than I would expect from either of those teams, but it is Holiday hangover time.
 
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DC78-82 said:
I thought the game was pretty sloppy, with far more unforced turnovers than I would expect from either of those teams, but it is Holiday hangover time.
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This I completely agree with. I mean BC had players skating into each other and passes to the wrong side of the rink.
 
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Off topic but does anyone know why Lindenwood randomly played a game against Minnesota State last night? USCHO didn't have it on the schedule until the game actually happened. Was it a rescheduled game or was USCHO's schedule just wrong?
 
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