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2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
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Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
No, they are part of New France.
No, they are part of New France.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
Yes. We like our lipeäkala!...and Northern Minnesota New Finland.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
We like our Paling: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Gerookte_paling.jpeg
We like our Paling: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Gerookte_paling.jpeg
Blackbeard
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Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
Reminds me of when Ben Johnson "won" the gold medal (for a few hours) in the 100 meter in Seoul in 1988. The Canadian National media was tripping over itself to gush platitudes about "Ben Johnson, the Canadian sprinter" with as much enthusiasm as they could muster, thereby embracing him as one of our own.
A scant day or so later the same media, with as unaffected monotones as you could imagine referred to him as "ahh, Ben Johnson, the Jamaican runner" thereby distancing themselves as far as they could from him in the hope that nobody had heard them the day before.
It was hilariously hypocritical...although Johnson probably wouldn't have seen the humour.
That's why it is safer to just call them all "East" and then they can't complain. Sort of like when they call teams from Pennsylvania part of the "West", at least until they win something, and then they'll consider them to be "East".
Reminds me of when Ben Johnson "won" the gold medal (for a few hours) in the 100 meter in Seoul in 1988. The Canadian National media was tripping over itself to gush platitudes about "Ben Johnson, the Canadian sprinter" with as much enthusiasm as they could muster, thereby embracing him as one of our own.
A scant day or so later the same media, with as unaffected monotones as you could imagine referred to him as "ahh, Ben Johnson, the Jamaican runner" thereby distancing themselves as far as they could from him in the hope that nobody had heard them the day before.
It was hilariously hypocritical...although Johnson probably wouldn't have seen the humour.
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
He does realize that New England is on this side of the Atlantic, right?
Which one of those states do you think is in new England?
He does realize that New England is on this side of the Atlantic, right?
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
Dunno. Some folks in the Mid West have trouble properly identifying anything east of the great lakes. ( Witness the recent UWO discussion )
Dunno. Some folks in the Mid West have trouble properly identifying anything east of the great lakes.
( Witness the recent UWO discussion )Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
Hi. "He" here.
Seeing as how I spent four years going to college in New England (and even graduated!) I think I know. Just having a little fun with you provincial Easterners!
Hi. "He" here.
Seeing as how I spent four years going to college in New England (and even graduated!) I think I know. Just having a little fun with you provincial Easterners!
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
Irony what with all that recent internal debate and disagreement on proper title of various Canadian geographical regions.Dunno. Some folks in the Mid West have trouble properly identifying anything east of the great lakes.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
That debate was led/initiated by someone connected to the WCHA. Just saying.
Irony what with all that recent internal debate and disagreement on proper title of various Canadian geographical regions.
That debate was led/initiated by someone connected to the WCHA. Just saying.
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
I think that we have another situation in which the Pairwise as presented by USCHO does not mirror the way that the NCAA tournament committee looks at things. I believe that North Dakota should win the comparison with BU because the record vs. common opponents component is the other way according to the committee. USCHO shows BU with a 3-1 record vs. common opponents while UND has a 6-2-2 record. On the surface this leaves BU with the higher value but it looks different if you break it down by opponent:
BU record vs. Wisconsin: 0-1 (.000)
BU record vs. UMD: 2-0 (1.000)
BU record vs. SCSU: 1-0 (1.000)
UND record vs. Wisconsin: 1-2-1 (.375)
UND record vs. Duluth: 1-0-1 (.750)
UND record vs. SCSU: 4-0 (1.000)
Since the committee normalizes the record vs. each opponent this should have North Dakota ahead.
I think that we have another situation in which the Pairwise as presented by USCHO does not mirror the way that the NCAA tournament committee looks at things. I believe that North Dakota should win the comparison with BU because the record vs. common opponents component is the other way according to the committee. USCHO shows BU with a 3-1 record vs. common opponents while UND has a 6-2-2 record. On the surface this leaves BU with the higher value but it looks different if you break it down by opponent:
BU record vs. Wisconsin: 0-1 (.000)
BU record vs. UMD: 2-0 (1.000)
BU record vs. SCSU: 1-0 (1.000)
UND record vs. Wisconsin: 1-2-1 (.375)
UND record vs. Duluth: 1-0-1 (.750)
UND record vs. SCSU: 4-0 (1.000)
Since the committee normalizes the record vs. each opponent this should have North Dakota ahead.
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
Are you sure? That's how they did it last year for men's hockey; I'm not sure they made that change for women's hockey...
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
That isn't what I was told last season. At that time the committee was still doing CoP the "old" way, meaning roll it up to a composite, not analyzing each common opponent separately. The reason that UND won a comparison from St. Lawrence last season and ultimately advanced when it looked like it may not was because UND had such a large lead in RPI that the committee did not get far enough down its checklist to consider other factors. That's per a committee member at the time. If it is still done that way, UND has a big lead in BU in RPI.
Another question is was a change in TUC announced? Last season, we had the top 12 in RPI being used for Teams Under Consideration. A few weeks ago, USCHO went to displaying any team over .500 in RPI as a TUC. That's how it was done a few years ago, but then a change was made. Was it changed back by the NCAA, or was the USCHO change inadvertent? I don't know the answer to that.
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
We want you Eastern types to feel PWR frustration; WCHA fans are frustrated by it every year.
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
Re: 2013-2014 Women's D-I PairWise Contentions and Affirmations
I've been hoping to see Minnesota #1, Wisconsin #4, and North Dakota #8 in the Pairwise just to see the riot that would ensue here on the forum!We want you Eastern types to feel PWR frustration; WCHA fans are frustrated by it every year.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
The committee doesn't need such a perfect storm in order to torment us. If UND is in the NCAA field and not a host, they'll be sent to Minneapolis to make the committee's task easier. So if Minnesota stays at #1, they will play one of the most dangerous teams in the field that will be undervalued by the rankings because of having been shorthanded for much of the year. Meanwhile, a team like BC that took the first half of the season off will get a matchup like Harvard that has tried hard but is getting worn down and really doesn't have the horses come tournament time. If there is justice in the world, BC will have to go to Madison and earn their way to the FF. Shared pain.
