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2013-2014 Schedules
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Less than hockey, but probably not for a fraction of the cost. Lacrosse needs more team members, probably more coaches, higher lodging and transportation costs, comparable equipment costs, and possibly a new artificial surface field. Some savings, but not a lot.
d3hockey57
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Comparable equipment? When's the last time you purchased skates? Try $800 for just one piece of equipment. How about sticks too. Apples and oranges bud. Higher transportation? One bus costs the same for either sport. Most lacrosse teams play on football fields already built for football.
hawkhockey
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Comparison cost between hockey and lacrosse ? Not even close.
Northeastern's womens hockey budget for last year was $ 1.3 million , including scholarships but excluding ice time. Plus, the additional cost of a new team joining a league .
You think the cost of a DIII mens lacrosse team is close to that ?
Equipment the same ? Not close. A team bus is a bus. As to a turf field, $1 million to be used by multiple teams ( football. soccer, field hockey) versus the cost of a hockey rink to build ?
look, the point was, you can get 40-50 kids on a DIII lacrosse team versus 20-30 on a DI hockey team at a significantly lower cost. That is it.
If a DII school is looking to increase men than on a strictly cost benefit basis, lacrosse is the way to go.
I'm a hockey guy but the numbers are the numbers.
Comparison cost between hockey and lacrosse ? Not even close.
Northeastern's womens hockey budget for last year was $ 1.3 million , including scholarships but excluding ice time. Plus, the additional cost of a new team joining a league .
You think the cost of a DIII mens lacrosse team is close to that ?
Equipment the same ? Not close. A team bus is a bus. As to a turf field, $1 million to be used by multiple teams ( football. soccer, field hockey) versus the cost of a hockey rink to build ?
look, the point was, you can get 40-50 kids on a DIII lacrosse team versus 20-30 on a DI hockey team at a significantly lower cost. That is it.
If a DII school is looking to increase men than on a strictly cost benefit basis, lacrosse is the way to go.
I'm a hockey guy but the numbers are the numbers.
Vincent Chase
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Sorry to see Stonehill go if true. It is amazing how popular lacrosse has become in the North east.
Sorry to see Stonehill go if true. It is amazing how popular lacrosse has become in the North east.
Okay, you win! My point was if you are going to play lacrosse seriously and try and win conferences and get NCAA bids, you have to have multiple surfaces to play on, albeit, they can be used for other sports. You have twice as many players so that is multiple buses, more hotel rooms, etc. D-2 trips would probably be longer in distance since the heart of lacrosse is the middle Atlantic states, especially for D-2. Unless they are going to be D-2 and play a largely D-3 schedule. Good luck with that! Hockey equipment is more expensive, but lacrosse gear is far from cheap. We are not talking a pair of shorts and a tee. I would be interested to know just how much they will save?
Russell Jaslow
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Lacrosse was always popular in the NE (especially Syracuse and Long Island) as well as the DC area.
Lacrosse was always popular in the NE (especially Syracuse and Long Island) as well as the DC area.
Russell Jaslow
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Russell Jaslow
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This affected a lot of schools. For instance, St. John's University, the one in NYC, used to field a D3 football team. Of course, their big sport is basketball, and when this rule was implemented, they simply dropped football.
Hofstra played D3 football while the rest of their program was D1 (when Wayne Chrebet played for the Jets, he came from Hofstra when they were D3, which the press made a big deal out of). They eventually had to move their football team to D1 (I-AA), but then eventually scrapped the program all together.
This affected a lot of schools. For instance, St. John's University, the one in NYC, used to field a D3 football team. Of course, their big sport is basketball, and when this rule was implemented, they simply dropped football.
Hofstra played D3 football while the rest of their program was D1 (when Wayne Chrebet played for the Jets, he came from Hofstra when they were D3, which the press made a big deal out of). They eventually had to move their football team to D1 (I-AA), but then eventually scrapped the program all together.
I don't believe they have a riink. I think they rent ice in Foxboro.
Russell Jaslow
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Of course, teams have come close the past few years which probably had the powers that be getting the shakes, like RIT and Union making the Frozen Four.
Then, there are the D2 schools which have won national titles, like Duluth.
Of course, teams have come close the past few years which probably had the powers that be getting the shakes, like RIT and Union making the Frozen Four.
Then, there are the D2 schools which have won national titles, like Duluth.
Russell Jaslow
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Still expensive.
Granted, maintaining a field, natural or artificial, isn't cheap (it's more expensive then many people think), but needing an ice surface to play on raises the costs before you even start.
Still expensive.
Granted, maintaining a field, natural or artificial, isn't cheap (it's more expensive then many people think), but needing an ice surface to play on raises the costs before you even start.
hawkhockey
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Most DII schools play a New England heavy schedule. The rest of the games, away from a southern spring trip,are in Long Island and upstate NY.
Not really different from their hockey trips with the difference being few if any over night trips.
As to cost of hockey versus lacrosse equipment, a pair of skates would pay for 3-4 sets lacrosse equipment.
Ice time isn't cheap , 20 weeks x 15 hours per week x$ 200 per hour = you can do the math
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If you don't give scholarships, and bring in twice as many paying students as a hockey team would, and since your hockey team can never generate any publicity for a run at a national title, you have a huge advantage on the income side as well.
If you don't give scholarships, and bring in twice as many paying students as a hockey team would, and since your hockey team can never generate any publicity for a run at a national title, you have a huge advantage on the income side as well.
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$800 for skates yes but a lot players pay for their own skates. If you can outfit four guys on a lacrosse team for $800 you must be getting the stuff from a garage sale. You might be able to outfit one guy for $800 if you don't go top shelf but certainly not four. However you can easily outfit four or more Laxers for what it would cost to outfit one hockey goalie.
$800 for skates yes but a lot players pay for their own skates. If you can outfit four guys on a lacrosse team for $800 you must be getting the stuff from a garage sale. You might be able to outfit one guy for $800 if you don't go top shelf but certainly not four. However you can easily outfit four or more Laxers for what it would cost to outfit one hockey goalie.
Russell Jaslow
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$800 is the budget Oswego needed to supply gloves for Selleck...
$800 is the budget Oswego needed to supply gloves for Selleck...