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2012 Women's Worlds

OnMAA said:
Yes it was a loss for the Canuck's and it looked bad, but at the end of the day it was only a preliminary round robin game. The only real meaning for this game was to determine home ice in the final, presuming these same two teams meet again and the US goes on to win pool A. Many times in past worlds, the team that won the round robin game lost in the final.

My take on the game was that Canada had a slow start, and the game was pretty much over after 3minutes. I was standing besides IceisNice, and when the US scored the second goal on the second shift, told him....."Time to call a time out"......Canadian coaches called a time out a few minutes later after the third or fourth goal, but by that time the game was pretty much over.

From a Canadian perspective just one of those games. If you look at the post game interviews with Hefford and Ouellette, they both summed it up perfectly...We were not ready at the start of the game, and can't wait to get back at it tommorow against Finland to show that we are better than what we showed today......


......Time to not get too high if you are an American, and time to not get too low if you are a Canadian.

Having said all that, Kudos to the US team. They looked impressive last night.
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I made the same comment. I was shocked it took until the fourth goal to call the timeout.
 
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OnMAA said:
I hope you are not a Canuck. As Canucks, we should discuss how to get better, but let's wait until the tournament is over. During the tournament, we should stand behind them. JMHO.
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Haha.... sorry to be so negative. Yes, I'm a Johnny Canuck. That's why I'm upset. Mel Davidson has to forget about loyalty to the vets... Yeah sure... Keep one (playing assistant coach). The old dolls have had their day in the limelight, so lets proceed with progression.

That said, I'm behind them 100%. Go Canada.
 
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OnMAA said:
Yes it was a loss for the Canuck's and it looked bad, but at the end of the day it was only a preliminary round robin game. The only real meaning for this game was to determine home ice in the final, presuming these same two teams meet again and the US goes on to win pool A. Many times in past worlds, the team that won the round robin game lost in the final.

My take on the game was that Canada had a slow start, and the game was pretty much over after 3minutes. I was standing besides IceisNice, and when the US scored the second goal on the second shift, told him....."Time to call a time out"......Canadian coaches called a time out a few minutes later after the third or fourth goal, but by that time the game was pretty much over.

From a Canadian perspective just one of those games. If you look at the post game interviews with Hefford and Ouellette, they both summed it up perfectly...We were not ready at the start of the game, and can't wait to get back at it tommorow against Finland to show that we are better than what we showed today......


......Time to not get too high if you are an American, and time to not get too low if you are a Canadian.

Having said all that, Kudos to the US team. They looked impressive last night.
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I basically agree, thinking Ouellette expressed it best and realistically.

My point was simply that whoever was responsible for that headline "Tough Loss, Lesson Learned" on Hockey Canada's website should give more thought to the task at hand. That comment was completely meaningless...it was worse than meaningless, it was just plain stupid...just filling copy space.

I can't help but think back a few years ago to when Team USA had gone to youth to rebuild its program and had a few bumps along the way. Notwithstanding the fact that Team Canada didn't show up at the front door last night, if Team USA's performance was any indication of what is to come, big dividends are starting to be paid.
 
Call It said:
I would love this sport to stay in the olympics but has issues. Two teams are real and the rest are a joke when compared to Team USA & Canada. If your son/ daughter was playing AA hockey, would you sign them up for a B tournament? It has nothing to do with gender. How do we get the rest of the world up to Team USA/ Canadas level? One of the countries in this tournament lists 315 total female hockey players. Not a very big pool to pick from. As a fan, I want to see competition.
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One thing you don't do as IOC head is threaten to cut the sport. Why invest in a sport that's going to be cut? You call out individual federations for failing to invest.

The sport can grow. Men's hockey grew. And you look at some other women's sports: women's soccer used to be U.S. & Norway in the early 90s. Since then you've seen a number of different countries who've won or been legit contenders.
 
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Call It said:
I would love this sport to stay in the olympics but has issues. Two teams are real and the rest are a joke when compared to Team USA & Canada. If your son/ daughter was playing AA hockey, would you sign them up for a B tournament? It has nothing to do with gender. How do we get the rest of the world up to Team USA/ Canadas level? One of the countries in this tournament lists 315 total female hockey players. Not a very big pool to pick from. As a fan, I want to see competition.
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If they wanted to, our daughters could probably move to my native land, get citizenship and play for my home country at the IIHF Division 1 level (IIHF teams ranked 9 and lower). Instead, their plans are focussed on their careers, once college hockey is done.
 
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Looked at the birthdates on Can's roster...aside from 3 players the rest of the roster is all in mid to early 20s.
 
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OnMAA said:
If they wanted to, our daughters could probably move to my native land, get citizenship and play for my home country at the IIHF Division 1 level (IIHF teams ranked 9 and lower). Instead, their plans are focussed on their careers, once college hockey is done.
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Don't blame them for that.
 
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dave1381 said:
One thing you don't do as IOC head is threaten to cut the sport. Why invest in a sport that's going to be cut? You call out individual federations for failing to invest.

The sport can grow. Men's hockey grew. And you look at some other women's sports: women's soccer used to be U.S. & Norway in the early 90s. Since then you've seen a number of different countries who've won or been legit contenders.
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Lets look at the numbers. How many girls/ women in those countries were already playing soccer? I bet more than 315. The US Mens soccer is bad but yet thousands of kids still play soccer in the US. We need more kids playing hockey. IMHO it needs to be cheaper and played locally, like soccer for example. How do we get more kids playing the coolest game on earth both here and abroad?
 
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Blackbeard said:
Can 2 - Fin 1 after 2 periods.
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FINAL: Canada 3, Finland 2. They barely squeak by, the day after being blasted by the US. They also went 0-for-6 on the power play, with Noora Räty making 40 saves for the Finns. Shots on goal were 43-15.
 
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In the other early game, Sweden defeated Germany 2-1. Elin Holmlov scored 24 seconds into overtime to give the Swedes the victory, after the Germans tied it with 48 seconds left in regulation.
 
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CrazyDave said:
FINAL: Canada 3, Finland 2. They barely squeak by, the day after being blasted by the US. They also went 0-for-6 on the power play, with Noora Räty making 40 saves for the Finns. Shots on goal were 43-15.
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Canada certainly had several more opportunities and could have have scored 3-5 more goals but it is what it is. Their passing at times was terrible and at other times getting in the general area of their target but certainly not tape to tape. Some flashes of a cohesive unit but they aren't happening with enough consistency.

They are taking way too many penalties.
 
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Canada is complacent. You are correct their passing is off, power play is struggling, and play in both ends of the rink lacks commitment - they are standing still in their own zone and offensively are not finishing and are not managing the puck well or showing hunger retrieving it! I am watching the USA play Russia and their work low, cycles, and puck pursuit is awesome.
I know Canada will snap outta their funk. In the end it should come down to USA vs Canada next weekend so I hope that the Canadians will get things together so that we will have an exciting game to watch!!
 
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Caitlin Cahow's insights on the U.S. win over Canada. Here are some excerpts:

On the power play, Canada seemed to switch from their traditional 1-3-1 power play that has been so dominant in the past. As a US player, I am accustomed to seeing Caroline Ouellette in the slot and know how dangerous she can be, but she never really got to her sweet spot.
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It is hard to say what was going on at the Canadian bench. In my experience, Team Canada always comes out fast and quickly takes control of the game with their style of play. That just never happened. When I’m on the ice, I know to prepare for Ouellette’s ability to move to a space and start the break out. I worry about Hefford busting through the neutral zone for a hail-Mary pass. I am constantly aware of the 3rd or 4th (player) coming hard into the zone for a second attack drop pass. I try to prevent the 60 foot cross-ice pass that opens the Canadian game up and allows them to use their speed entering the zone. These are the elements of Team Canada’s game that make them great and very tough to play against. None of this happened tonight.
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