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2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

FiveHole12 said:
Also known as a SHART.
Half chit, half fart. :p

I'll be hanging in the smokers section between periods. Come out and get some fresh air. :D
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Keep the smoke, but I'll take a beer, no problem. :)
 
amherstblackbear said:
It's also where you landed. Jerry York is too smart to talk about the regional final before playing the first game. And Maine's a bit preoccupied at the moment (see above). Rest assured, though, neither York nor Whitehead has forgotten who won last year.
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Exactly. Don't worry UMD fans, you will have the proper attention paid to you - I hate how fans say they rather be under the radar when they SHOULD know the teams playing aren't falling into that trap.
 
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J.D. said:
If you mean flying under the radar in that the #1 seed in the region has won 15 straight...fine. But you're the defending champs until beaten...I don't think anyone from Maine is underestimating you. UMD is the #2 seed, not Maine. As for people "giving" the regional to BC...that's a bit of a strawman argument.
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Just did a little number crunching on this 15 game win streak that BC has had. While any 15 game win streak is impressive, the combined record of the teams they beat on that streak was 105-139-29. They had 6 of those wins (3 against each) against Providence and Vermont, whose combined record is 20-47-5. They only won 4 games out of the 15 against teams over .500. Those were 1 against Maine and BU (In the HE championship game and Beanpot Championship game) and 2 against Merrimack. Again, I think a 15 game win streak is impressive no matter what, but it wasn't like they were playing juggernaut competition during that time.
 
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dogs2012 said:
I think a 15 game win streak is impressive no matter what, but it wasn't like they were playing juggernaut competition during that time.
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After the streak reaches 17 people will point out BC didn't play any juggernauts either. Oh well.
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

Nick Papagiorgio said:
After the streak reaches 17 people will point out BC didn't play any juggernauts either. Oh well.
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You know, when you're right you're right. Jeez I wish I had fallacious reasoning like you do. Would make life a lot easier on myself.
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

dogs2012 said:
Just did a little number crunching on this 15 game win streak that BC has had. While any 15 game win streak is impressive, the combined record of the teams they beat on that streak was 105-139-29. They had 6 of those wins (3 against each) against Providence and Vermont, whose combined record is 20-47-5. They only won 4 games out of the 15 against teams over .500. Those were 1 against Maine and BU (In the HE championship game and Beanpot Championship game) and 2 against Merrimack. Again, I think a 15 game win streak is impressive no matter what, but it wasn't like they were playing juggernaut competition during that time.
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19 in a row won't be so impressive either, considering who we'll have to beat to get there. ;) :p
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

dogs2012 said:
You know, when you're right you're right. Jeez I wish I had fallacious reasoning like you do. Would make life a lot easier on myself.
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OK sure.

Being the best is a tough thing. It means the entire schedule is against inferior competition, right?
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

dogs2012 said:
Just did a little number crunching on this 15 game win streak that BC has had. While any 15 game win streak is impressive, the combined record of the teams they beat on that streak was 105-139-29. They had 6 of those wins (3 against each) against Providence and Vermont, whose combined record is 20-47-5. They only won 4 games out of the 15 against teams over .500. Those were 1 against Maine and BU (In the HE championship game and Beanpot Championship game) and 2 against Merrimack. Again, I think a 15 game win streak is impressive no matter what, but it wasn't like they were playing juggernaut competition during that time.
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You brought up UMD coming in under the radar and I answered why that might be the case. I didn't say anything about the 15 game winning streak coming against top notch opponents each night. You play who's on the schedule...it is what it is. We agree that any 15 game winning streak is impressive. Doesn't mean BC will win the regional. But again, UMD is favored to beat Maine on paper...so how is that coming in under the radar? And if it's a BC-UMD final, it will be mentioned repeatedly that it's a matchup of the last two national champions and that UMD is the defending champ. Throw in the fact you have a probable Hobey finalist and I don't think UMD comes in under the radar whatsoever.
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

REDMEN2002 said:
Exactly. Don't worry UMD fans, you will have the proper attention paid to you - I hate how fans say they rather be under the radar when they SHOULD know the teams playing aren't falling into that trap.
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We, as a message board, CANNOT afford to overlook anyone! Message boardery is a serious business.

Nick Papagiorgio said:
OK sure.

Being the best is a tough thing. It means the entire schedule is against inferior competition, right?
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Yeah I mean it's not like we played one of the toughest OOC schedules in the country
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

dogs2012 said:
Just did a little number crunching on this 15 game win streak that BC has had. While any 15 game win streak is impressive, the combined record of the teams they beat on that streak was 105-139-29. They had 6 of those wins (3 against each) against Providence and Vermont, whose combined record is 20-47-5. They only won 4 games out of the 15 against teams over .500. Those were 1 against Maine and BU (In the HE championship game and Beanpot Championship game) and 2 against Merrimack. Again, I think a 15 game win streak is impressive no matter what, but it wasn't like they were playing juggernaut competition during that time.
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Facinating number crunching there. Like all the other streaks we have discussed in this thread they all could come to end this weekend.

The biggest question going into this weekend for this region is will Abbott play? The second biggest question is how JCon will solidify his impending Hobey Baker Award? :D;)

I don't think any team is going under the radar. What goes under the radar is how this could be considered the true region of death.
 
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chickod said:
Excellent restaurant...good food...
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yep, went to college in worcester... silverman's has good grub and plenty of room to move around... good choice for the location...
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

dogs2012 said:
Just did a little number crunching on this 15 game win streak that BC has had. While any 15 game win streak is impressive, the combined record of the teams they beat on that streak was 105-139-29. They had 6 of those wins (3 against each) against Providence and Vermont, whose combined record is 20-47-5. They only won 4 games out of the 15 against teams over .500. Those were 1 against Maine and BU (In the HE championship game and Beanpot Championship game) and 2 against Merrimack. Again, I think a 15 game win streak is impressive no matter what, but it wasn't like they were playing juggernaut competition during that time.
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With the exception of UMass, who is the most talented sub-.500 team I think I've ever seen (with an excellent record against top teams), we curbstomped the rest of those teams during the win streak. I mean, what more do you want?
 
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Biddco said:
The biggest question going into this weekend for this region is will Abbott play? The second biggest question is how JCon will solidify his impending Hobey Baker Award? :D;)
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One thing that has struck me about JCon's season is that his production has not fallen at all despite the fact that last season he was centering Justin Fontaine and MConn and this season he is centering Mike Seidel and Keegan Flaherty. Seidel and Flaherty are nice players, but it just isn't the same.
 
Re: 2012 Northeast Regional: Boston College, Air Force, Maine and Minnesota Duluth

HumRsky said:
One thing that has struck me about JCon's season is that his production has not fallen at all despite the fact that last season he was centering Justin Fontaine and MConn and this season he is centering Mike Seidel and Keegan Flaherty. Seidel and Flaherty are nice players, but it just isn't the same.
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Great point. He was playing with arguable the best UMD player in history in Mike Connolly, and Justin Fonatine who was one of the better UMD players of the last decade (I forget where he has ended up in points all time at UMD)

I thought for sure Jack would have a slump in points, yet without those guys he should set a career high. Give him the Hobey! :p


If Abbott doesn't play, this presents an opportunity for him to become the national leader in ppg.
 
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