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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
So Obama has played anyone?
So Obama has played anyone?
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2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
To sum up tonight's debate: The GOP candidates debated whether to establish a colony on the moon with millions of illegal grandmothers.
To sum up tonight's debate: The GOP candidates debated whether to establish a colony on the moon with millions of illegal grandmothers.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Didn't he play #26 Union just the other night?
ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Yeah, I heard Romney won though. Which is a shame. Newt just can't seem to hold momentum once he has it.
Yeah, I heard Romney won though. Which is a shame. Newt just can't seem to hold momentum once he has it.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
So you're saying his momentum lasts about as long as his commitment to his spouses?
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Newtie needs to go real negative now with his ads and stay within single digits of The Mittster heading into Tuesday. At that point perhaps his supporters' enthusiasm could carry him over the finish line. Not sure why he's flamed out in two straight debates but he's definitely pulled an Al Gore this past week. I've seen some polling suggesting that Romney's support is soft, which makes sense as few people seem to really like the guy. A few more casino bucks donated to Gingrich's campaign (what IS up with that anyway?) could be useful right now.
Newtie needs to go real negative now with his ads and stay within single digits of The Mittster heading into Tuesday. At that point perhaps his supporters' enthusiasm could carry him over the finish line. Not sure why he's flamed out in two straight debates but he's definitely pulled an Al Gore this past week. I've seen some polling suggesting that Romney's support is soft, which makes sense as few people seem to really like the guy. A few more casino bucks donated to Gingrich's campaign (what IS up with that anyway?) could be useful right now.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
now that Gingrich has flamed out, I was wondering if there's any candidate left that hasn't had their turn in the spotlight as the anti-Romney. Santorum was the flavor of the week already, right? Is that it then?
now that Gingrich has flamed out, I was wondering if there's any candidate left that hasn't had their turn in the spotlight as the anti-Romney. Santorum was the flavor of the week already, right? Is that it then?
ScoobyDoo
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
How do you know Gingrich has flamed out. He's been up and down a couple of times already. He may go up again.
How do you know Gingrich has flamed out. He's been up and down a couple of times already. He may go up again.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
That's what she said.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
The Not Mitt celebutards have been:
Bachmann
Perry
Cain
Newtie I
Frothy Mix
Newtie II
Paul hasn't had his boomlet but he's sane on defense so no chance for him.
Huntsman and TPaw never had their moments but it's too late.
Saint Joan could always come down off her cross, but she's shut out of the primaries so her best bet is to keep firing from the Fox duck blind.
Christie, Jindal and Rubio have been staying as far away from these morons as possible.
God knows.
The Not Mitt celebutards have been:
Bachmann
Perry
Cain
Newtie I
Frothy Mix
Newtie II
Paul hasn't had his boomlet but he's sane on defense so no chance for him.
Huntsman and TPaw never had their moments but it's too late.
Saint Joan could always come down off her cross, but she's shut out of the primaries so her best bet is to keep firing from the Fox duck blind.
Christie, Jindal and Rubio have been staying as far away from these morons as possible.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Interesting about Santorum; check this out from the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll:
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All of the GOP candidates are a net-negative in favorability ratings, with Santorum getting the best marks -- 26 percent positive, 27 percent negative.
Gingrich gets the worst -- 26-32.
Romney scores 31-36, and it’s worth noting that Bob Dole, John McCain, and George W. Bush were all net-positives at the same time in their fights for the nomination. The exception of a recent major party nominee being a net-negative at this point -- John Kerry, who was 22-26 in January 2004.
“Romney’s numbers are net-negative, which is unusual,” McInturff said.
Hart added, “It’s hard to make the case that anything but injury has come off the Republican brand off Congress and electorate.”
The congressional approval rating is near record lows of 13 percent, and more people say the GOP has brought the wrong kind of change (31 percent) in Congress than the right kind (12 percent). That represents a drop for the Republicans from a year ago, right after they took control of the House as a result of the sweeping 2010 elections. In January 2011, 25 percent thought Republicans would bring the right kind of change versus 20 percent who thought they would bring the wrong kind.
Those attitudes are also far worse than right after Democrats took control of the House in 2006 (42-15 percent) and Republicans regained a majority in 1994 (37-11 percent).
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Santorum is viewed the most favorable by the electorate (basically break even). I wondered about this previously, as in has anybody ever emerged from the primaries with an unfavorable rating. I would have thought Gore, but it turns out it was Kerry - should have remembered him first. I'm not sure how you can boost your favorability rating as a candidate when you're already well known (Newtie and Mittens). Santorum on the other hand probably does have some room to grow hypothetically.
Interesting about Santorum; check this out from the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll:
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All of the GOP candidates are a net-negative in favorability ratings, with Santorum getting the best marks -- 26 percent positive, 27 percent negative.
Gingrich gets the worst -- 26-32.
Romney scores 31-36, and it’s worth noting that Bob Dole, John McCain, and George W. Bush were all net-positives at the same time in their fights for the nomination. The exception of a recent major party nominee being a net-negative at this point -- John Kerry, who was 22-26 in January 2004.
“Romney’s numbers are net-negative, which is unusual,” McInturff said.
Hart added, “It’s hard to make the case that anything but injury has come off the Republican brand off Congress and electorate.”
The congressional approval rating is near record lows of 13 percent, and more people say the GOP has brought the wrong kind of change (31 percent) in Congress than the right kind (12 percent). That represents a drop for the Republicans from a year ago, right after they took control of the House as a result of the sweeping 2010 elections. In January 2011, 25 percent thought Republicans would bring the right kind of change versus 20 percent who thought they would bring the wrong kind.
Those attitudes are also far worse than right after Democrats took control of the House in 2006 (42-15 percent) and Republicans regained a majority in 1994 (37-11 percent).
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Santorum is viewed the most favorable by the electorate (basically break even). I wondered about this previously, as in has anybody ever emerged from the primaries with an unfavorable rating. I would have thought Gore, but it turns out it was Kerry - should have remembered him first. I'm not sure how you can boost your favorability rating as a candidate when you're already well known (Newtie and Mittens). Santorum on the other hand probably does have some room to grow hypothetically.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
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huskyfan
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Christie and Rubio has both endorsed Romney. Rubio is a possible VP choice for Romney. if he brings Florida and Mitt brings Michigan, Obama's got trouble electorally.
Christie and Rubio has both endorsed Romney. Rubio is a possible VP choice for Romney. if he brings Florida and Mitt brings Michigan, Obama's got trouble electorally.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Obama's electoral fate is the same as always -- tied completely to job numbers. If the Euro implodes this summer Elmer Fudd could win the White House out of the red slot. If the economy continues to improve Obama's floor is about 320 EV.
That's one of the things that makes this nomination so weird -- the actual choice of candidate doesn't matter.
The morons in question are the Not Mitts. I would expect all the establishment Republicans to line up behind Mitt. I'm surprised that didn't happen a long time ago.
Obama's electoral fate is the same as always -- tied completely to job numbers. If the Euro implodes this summer Elmer Fudd could win the White House out of the red slot. If the economy continues to improve Obama's floor is about 320 EV.
That's one of the things that makes this nomination so weird -- the actual choice of candidate doesn't matter.
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
How does Romney bring Michigan? Because of his daddy? By that logic, he should bring Massachusetts, too, since he was governor and a Senate candidate there.
How does Romney bring Michigan? Because of his daddy? By that logic, he should bring Massachusetts, too, since he was governor and a Senate candidate there.
huskyfan
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Mitt's Michigan born and raised. Dad was popular Governor - big civil rights guy - big auto company guy. last election Michigan (2010) swung strongly Republican,
yes, Mitt could edge Michigan into the R catagory.
Mitt's Michigan born and raised. Dad was popular Governor - big civil rights guy - big auto company guy. last election Michigan (2010) swung strongly Republican,
yes, Mitt could edge Michigan into the R catagory.
bronconick
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Mitt Romney has consistently bashed the auto industry bailouts over the last few years. That kills any boost he's getting from his father. He's not getting Michigan.
Mitt Romney has consistently bashed the auto industry bailouts over the last few years. That kills any boost he's getting from his father. He's not getting Michigan.
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
If the stock market is up through the end of May, Obama wins.
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
And it's kinda hard to envision Romney carrying Florida by promising to slash Social Security. Couple that with the verbal BJ Obama gave Israel the other night, and that state should stay Blue. Without Michigan or Florida, Mitt's path to 270 is kinda thin.
And it's kinda hard to envision Romney carrying Florida by promising to slash Social Security. Couple that with the verbal BJ Obama gave Israel the other night, and that state should stay Blue. Without Michigan or Florida, Mitt's path to 270 is kinda thin.
WeWantMore
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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?
Rubio has made clear he's not endorsing anyone. He's defended Romney, but hasn't endorsed him.
Romney isn't winning Michigan, but it's not like that's a big strategic loss. It would be gravy, but is hardly essential.
As for Flordia, it has yet to show the antipathy to Mitt that Priceless predicts. Yet, of course, being an important word there.
Rubio has made clear he's not endorsing anyone. He's defended Romney, but hasn't endorsed him.
Romney isn't winning Michigan, but it's not like that's a big strategic loss. It would be gravy, but is hardly essential.
As for Flordia, it has yet to show the antipathy to Mitt that Priceless predicts. Yet, of course, being an important word there.
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