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2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

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While I too am as surprised as The Mittster is about hearing about job outsourcing during the GOP primary, he ain't seen nothin' yet. To my knowledge nobody has yet run ads with the very people talking into the camera saying how they worked hard all their life but now their job's in China after Bain came in and shut them down. Those ads are devastating, I saw them in the '94 Senate race and its tough to counter. Certainly Romney was doing right by his investors. The problem is Obama will easily ask the question has Romney ever made a little bit less of a killing on a deal in order to keep jobs in the United States? My guess is the answer to that question is no, and how do you explain that to the people who got canned? Blame them for not working for Chinese wages?
Romney can run ads showing Joe GE coming and spending the night in the Lincoln Bedroom, then becoming Obamas Job Czar, then showing GE Xray Division moved from Wisconsin to China.
 
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I bet he wins and I bet the next 8 years look exactly like 2000-2008.

More like 2000-2012.

I'm not sure where Romney will be able to attack to get the independent votes. other than health care and lower taxes is there any difference in their message. His only hope is for the disgruntled voters to take a chance on change and hope he flip-flops from his party message and do what's right for the country.
 
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Romney can run ads showing Joe GE coming and spending the night in the Lincoln Bedroom, then becoming Obamas Job Czar, then showing GE Xray Division moved from Wisconsin to China.

He could do that. and he could also spin it into positive, unity message that might appeal to independents and flip-flop work for him.

I saw a joke about what Romney would do if USA were his company... selling Alaska etc... (even if we suck more tax dollars than we pay in, we got lots of oil and gas)

But he could take this line and make it into a Romney (Obama) unity speech. (not poor, rich, corporations etc... but represent all America). As I made my company successful and strong by weeding out the waste and unproductive divisions, I'll do the same for the country etc...
 
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As I made my company successful and strong by weeding out the waste and unproductive divisions, I'll do the same for the country etc...

He's going to outsource the poor to China?
 
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Pretty dominant, but they go for the Democrats anyway. Most prominent inside the auto cities (Saginaw, Flint, Detroit.) Michigan would be flaming red if not for them. Outside the cities are farms and the "gubmint's comin' fer mah huntin' guns" types with 40 acre lots surrounded in barbed wire (Ted Nugent had a ranch in Jackson, that's about all you need to know.) Western half of the Lower Peninsula (Muskegon, Grand Rapids) is Bible-land, and the UP is basically bootstrappy red except for Marquette.

It's like Kansas in a swamp.
I have never imagined a swamp in Michigan. I've thought of it as Poland -- flat, cold, and rural -- plus Detroit in one of the bottom corners.
 
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I have never imagined a swamp in Michigan. I've thought of it as Poland -- flat, cold, and rural -- plus Detroit in one of the bottom corners.

only the southern half is flat.
 
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

Most of the northern lower is flat too, with large forests and some hills. Eastern UP is the same. Western UP is definitely hilly - Michigan maps refer to some areas of them as named mountain ranges, and while there are some stretches of hills that are 1500 to almost 2000 ASL, calling them "mountains" is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.
 
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

To be honest, if it weren't for college hockey fans I wouldn't have ever heard of the UP. ;)

Based on remarks on the Forum, this is my mental image of the UP. In August.

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Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

To be honest, if it weren't for college hockey fans I wouldn't have ever heard of the UP. ;)

Based on remarks on the Forum, this is my mental image of the UP. In August.

cp1-2+trail+scrub+forest.jpg

You can tell this from NoDak because there are hills and trees.
 
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

Here's a picture of mine when I was on a work trip to North Dakota:

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I titled it "Welcome to Hell"
 
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

Pretty dominant, but they go for the Democrats anyway. Most prominent inside the auto cities (Saginaw, Flint, Detroit.) Michigan would be flaming red if not for them.

Which states aren't fiercely conservative outside of their major urban areas?
 
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Which states aren't fiercely conservative outside of their major urban areas?
All states a fiercely conservative, because that's where the real 'Merica is, all those libtards living in the urban areas who outnumber them are just plotting to keep the real 'Mericans down.
 
Re: 2012 Elections Pt II: Bachmann Turned Me Into a Newt! A Newt?

The ad I can't wait to see will be similar to when someone superimposed Grampa Simpson's head on McCain's body and had him give one of his long rambling stories that went nowhere. Only this time, they should put Romney's head on Gordon Gecko's body and replay the "Greed is good" sermon from that movie. It even ends with a reference to fixing the United States.
 
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