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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Mario Cuomo used to do it every four years and he never ran.

True. But Christie actually has a chance to win it all.

Even when Cuomo was at the height of his political career, 95% of Americans would say "Who?" and 4% would say "Why is that name familiar?". Not that Christie is known coast to coast, but it's a lot more than Cuomo.
 
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If he's "tired of dealing with the crazies" then he should stay in Jersey (and yes, I realize the irony of that statement).
Seriously. He does recognize what his party's national platform has been based on for the last decade, right? ;)

Hard to imagine the Foxies want Christie speaking truth to power in the GOP debates. He might come out against torture or in favor of science, or something nutty like that.

In 2005, Christie prosecuted the Hemant Lakhani terrorism case, in which the defendant claimed that he had been entrapped. In that case, Christie's office relied on an informant who had been dismissed by the FBI as unreliable for fabricating claims of terrorist activity. For more than a year, the informant, working with the U.S. attorney's office, solicited Lakhani for access to arms. Lakhani was unable to obtain anything until an undercover agent contacted him and supplied him with a fake missile. In an interview with the public radio program "This American Life," Christie brushed off suggestions that Lakhani was entrapped by law enforcement, defending the Lakhani prosecution.

In April 2009, Christie came under fire from the ACLU for authorizing warrantless cellphone tracking of people in 79 instances. Christie has stressed that the practice was legal and court approved.

On second thought... just one of the boys.
 
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True. But Christie actually has a chance to win it all.

Cuomo was actually very well known. All the pundits (even the conservatives, since this was prior to The Era Of Screaming Reactionaries) would regularly wax rhapsodical about his rhetorical gifts.

I think Christie and the rest of the lurkers are just keeping an eye out in the event that something happens in the early primaries that casts the national convention into doubt, like one of the fundies pulls out to an early lead, and then makes some earth-shatteringly mindless statement like they think they're the reincarnation of Catherine the Great (Bachmann) or John the Revelator (Perry).
 
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Florida looking to move its primary up. Ensuing stampede could result...as the RNC is not likely to follow through on threats to punish states.

Nothing is good in extremes...that includes complete decentralization to the states.
 
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That's what Kentucky gets for voting for Rand Paul. If they didn't expect idealistic unrealistic stands that randomly shoot friend and foe alike in the foot, they shouldn't have voted for a Paul.
 
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That's what Kentucky gets for voting for Rand Paul. If they didn't expect idealistic unrealistic stands that randomly shoot friend and foe alike in the foot, they shouldn't have voted for a Paul.

This is why I enjoy politics so much. You get what you vote for, and people only realize that when it smacks them in the face. I have no idea why Kentucky voters would elect Republicans as I doubt very many of them take advantage of income tax cuts for the top earners for example. Likewise if anywhere stands to benefit from universal health coverage it would be a poor, unhealthy state like that. However, its their state, and if they want to keep electing nuts like Paul and idiots like McConnell, more power to them.

Regarding Christie, this all seems like an ego trip for him. In reality voting will start most likely in early January for the primaries now that Florida has moved up. Its almost October, which gives Chrstie/Palin/Reagan's corpse/other politician du jour exactly 3 months (interrupted by the holiday season) to raise money, hire staff, garner endorsements, and set up a campaign apparatus in all of these critical early states. In short, even if one of them does decide to get in, its already too late. Perry is a great example of a guy who waited too long. I think he can recover but his path to the nomination is a lot more shaky than it needed to be. To get in now is political suicide. What you see on the GOP side (Romney, Bachman, Perry, etc) is what you get. There isn't going to be a white knight at this point in time IMHO.
 
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I have no idea why Kentucky voters would elect Republicans
It probably says more about the quality of the recent crop of Kentucky Dem candidates than anything else. Their governors have pretty much been permanently Dem and the State House is 60% Dem.

But if you can't beat a sack of doorknobs like Jim Bunning, I don't know what to tell you. ;) It shouldn't have even come to Paul inheriting that seat.
 
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It probably says more about the quality of the recent crop of Kentucky Dem candidates than anything else. Their governors have pretty much been permanently Dem and the State House is 60% Dem.

But if you can't beat a sack of doorknobs like Jim Bunning, I don't know what to tell you. ;) It shouldn't have even come to Paul inheriting that seat.

Gotta love good old Mitch. He can't keep his junior Senator in line so he punts.

Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., pointed out that Democrats could still bring the bill to the floor for a vote if they have the 60 votes necessary to clear the procedural hurdles a single lawmaker can erect under Senate rules. McConnell hasn't objected to the use of expedited procedures to pass the bill.

But as a practical matter, important but lesser measures like pipeline safety regulations that can't be approved quickly wind up languishing indefinitely.

"If you start down that road you don't have time for anything else," said Norman Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. Paul's ability to hold up a bill despite its wide, bipartisan support "is an indication of how dysfunctional the Senate has become," Ornstein said.

McConnell is at the heart of what is wrong with government today. He's a liar and a snake.
 
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Found this one on fark.

http://news.yahoo.com/senator-blocks-pipeline-safety-bill-principle-070809432.html

Rand Paul is single-handedly blocking an oil/gas pipeline safety bill, even though the industry itself and companies in Kentucky want it passed. His reasoning? He's against all federal regulations.
Which is nothing new in the Senate. I seem to recall a lot of Southern (D) Senators blocking any Civil Rights legislation until LBJ (who knew where all the skeletons were) got them (reluctantly) to go along.
 
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He's go my vote now:

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Gotta love good old Mitch. He can't keep his junior Senator in line so he punts.



McConnell is at the heart of what is wrong with government today. He's a liar and a snake.

And Harry and Nancy are heading for Mt. Rushmore. Please. Give it a rest.
 
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Nancy passed tons of legislation. Harry couldn't get it through the bipolar dysfunctional Senate because of Mitch. Mitch is the problem.
 
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Which is nothing new in the Senate. I seem to recall a lot of Southern (D) Senators blocking any Civil Rights legislation until LBJ (who knew where all the skeletons were) got them (reluctantly) to go along.

There was that famous picture of Johnson "discussing" something with a Democratic senator (Robert Russell?) and had him bent backwards over the desk in the oval.
 
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Nancy passed tons of legislation. Harry couldn't get it through the bipolar dysfunctional Senate because of Mitch. Mitch is the problem.

You're delusional. McConnel is the leader of the opposition party. Opposition parties are SUPPOSED to oppose. Except in Scoobyland, where they meekly go along with the program. Bosh. How dare anybody step in the way of Hope and Change and say "no." You mean Nancy "we have to pass the bill to know what's in it?" You talkin' about that lightweight, ignorant libtard? You can have her. She's a real jewel, all right.
 
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Oppose? Is that what we call what's happening in the Senate today?

You obviously need to buy a clue.
 
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You're delusional. McConnel is the leader of the opposition party. Opposition parties are SUPPOSED to oppose. Except in Scoobyland, where they meekly go along with the program. Bosh. How dare anybody step in the way of Hope and Change and say "no." You mean Nancy "we have to pass the bill to know what's in it?" You talkin' about that lightweight, ignorant libtard? You can have her. She's a real jewel, all right.
Considering your usual level of derp, this is actually way up there. McConnel is not part of the "opposition" party, his party is merely the minority. We could save a whole lot of money and fire the minority and just have their votes automatically be no if they were the "opposition" party.

How do you actually function in day to day life?
 
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