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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Anyone watching the debate? So according to Bachmann, in the 1950s all immigrants had to have money to come into the country? Jeesh.

Some thoughts:
-Ron Paul is a very interesting candidate, he's more of a libertarian and in my biased view, he's crushing this debate. Most of the candidates seem to be talking in broader terms while Ron Paul is making his opinion be known, whether it's on the party line or not.
-I think Santorum is getting left behind. His responses aren't that confident and he's drawing every question back to himself rather than the country as a whole.
-Herman Cain is speaking in a very uncertain tone; I don't think he's displaying confidence in his answers.
-Rick Perry has some interesting views, but I think he's leaning on the Texas crutch too much. Yes, the jobs thing is nice, but it's unskilled, minimum wage jobs.
-Huntsman is too happy with the camera. Looks like him and Boehner have been tanning together. He has some good views yet he's pandering to the party leaders rather than party demographics. Edit: After I write this, he ****es off bible thumpers by saying science "exists".
-Bachmann has had a rather forgettable debate. I don't think she's hurt herself, but she hasn't done a lot to help herself.
-Gingrich needs to take a seat and remember that this isn't 1996 anymore.
-Romney is saying a lot of changes need to be made, but fails to outline how he'll be able to do that between Congress and the Courts.


And the economist in me is really rattling my brain for what several of these candidates are talking about. Cut, cap, and balance is a nice idea, but just repeal the Second Liberty Act. Make Congress approve each debt individually.

The candidate science policy: If 2 out of 50 scientist say climate change isn't a result of man, they're right. The other 48 are wrong.

Finally, I'm not a Republican at all. If one of these candidates is elected President, I'm afraid things aren't going to change because a lot of the changes they're talking about are in Congress. How effective has that been lately?
 
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Some thoughts:
-Ron Paul is a very interesting candidate, he's more of a libertarian and in my biased view, he's crushing this debate. Most of the candidates seem to be talking in broader terms while Ron Paul is making his opinion be known, whether it's on the party line or not.

Ron Paul is shooting fish in a barrel. He is also using one of those massive guns demonstrated on Mythbusters. I would LOVE to get a chance to vote for him. If he can't get the nomination, I hope he pulls a Nader and runs anyway. He'll have my vote.
 
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Ron Paul is shooting fish in a barrel. I would LOVE to get a chance to vote for him. If he can't get the nomination, I hope he pulls a Nader and runs anyway. He'll have my vote.

At this point with what has been said, I think he's the only Republican I'd wouldn't hesitate to vote for.
 
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Some thoughts:
-Ron Paul is a very interesting candidate, he's more of a libertarian and in my biased view, he's crushing this debate. Most of the candidates seem to be talking in broader terms while Ron Paul is making his opinion be known, whether it's on the party line or not.
Ron Paul is ****. There is a reason why the conservatives aren't getting behind him. (He makes Bacchman and Perry look good by comparison) I linked a video earlier that was about 45 minutes of reasons why he's a *******.

Like this little jewel where he wanted the president to be able to issue letters of marque.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3216:

Vote no to the Darfur Accountability and Divestment Act
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-180

He thinks the civil rights act is unconstitutional and people should be free to discriminate.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html

Victims of sexual harassment should just quit and find a different job.
http://www.calemployeerightsblog.co...-part-1-sexual-harassment-whats-the-big-deal/
Why don't they quit once the so-called harassment starts? ...[H]ow can the harassee escape [any] responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable...pressure and submission is hardly an example of a violation of one's employment rights.

He says he's a "scientist" but has no clue what a theory is.
<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6JyvkjSKMLw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The list just goes on and on. There's a handful of things that he's got good ideas on when the rest is basically him wanting to take us back to feudalism. Which is where his economic policies and social policies originate from.
 
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Among the things I learned at the debate tonight is that America is a weak, crumbling nation and protecting it is a "small issue." Republicans, it seems, dislike America.

My favorite part of the debate is when Mitt Romney quoted Jimmy Carter without realizing it :D
 
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Ron Paul is shooting fish in a barrel. He is also using one of those massive guns demonstrated on Mythbusters. I would LOVE to get a chance to vote for him. If he can't get the nomination, I hope he pulls a Nader and runs anyway. He'll have my vote.

He wants a return to the gold standard. That in and of itself is an automatic DQ in my book.
 
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Among the things I learned at the debate tonight is that America is a weak, crumbling nation and protecting it is a "small issue." Republicans, it seems, dislike America.

My favorite part of the debate is when Mitt Romney quoted Jimmy Carter without realizing it :D

Perfect libtard logic.

I missed Romney quoting Jimmuh. But I was reminded of Jimmuh quoting Amy in one of the debates with Reagan. Not a good idea for the president to admit he consults with a high school sophomore.
 
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Paul...largely positive as usual
Perry...negative as expected
Romney...best I've seen him yet (wins nom if Perry slips even a bit)
Bachmann...Pawlentied out of the race
 
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Rick Perry keeps proving he's an idiot. He's just enough of one to get the nomination, and I hope he does.
 
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There's a handful of things that he's got good ideas on when the rest is basically him wanting to take us back to feudalism. Which is where his economic policies and social policies originate from.
To be fair, feudalism rested on reciprocity between a lord granting land and military protection to a vassal in exchange for service and the provision of peasant troops.

Paul's idea is more like protofeudalism, where public property and services are expropriated under the control of powerful private interests with the active complicity of the state. The original example is the fall of the western Roman empire, but the better model for Paul is the theft of Russian public wealth by gangster oligarchs.

Ron Paul isn't William the Conqueror. He's Boris Yeltsin.
 
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Foxton posts a bunch of crap about why Ron Paul is a horrible person. As far as I'm concerned, that would mean Ron Paul is the best man for the job.
 
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Foxton posts a bunch of crap about why Ron Paul is a horrible person. As far as I'm concerned, that would mean Ron Paul is the best man for the job.
To be fair, if you lined up the Ron Paul supporters you could create a wind tunnel from all the vacant space in their heads. Because this is pretty much there reasoning.
 
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To be fair, if you lined up the Ron Paul supporters you could create a wind tunnel from all the vacant space in their heads. Because this is pretty much there reasoning.
Generally speaking, it's a wise idea to try and utilize proper grammar and spelling when impugning the intelligence of others. ;)
 
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Generally speaking, it's a wise idea to try and utilize proper grammar and spelling when impugning the intelligence of others. ;)
Generally speaking, those who bring up grammar instead of the content of a post, are admitting that they have no other way to critique what was said.
 
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Generally speaking, those who bring up grammar instead of the content of a post, are admitting that they have no other way to critique what was said.
Is that loud whooshing noise you're hearing coming from the Ron Paul supporters or from something flying over your head? Both?
 
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I liked Ron Paul four years ago, but the more I've listened to him lately, the more I realize that his ideas are too far 'out there'. America can't just suddenly declare neutrality, cut ourselves off from the outside world, and return to our pre-WWI foreign policy, which is basically what he supports. Returning to the gold standard is also impractical in this day and age.
 
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