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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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So in libworld if you don't campaign as you suggest then you've got a pass on anything else? Sleep with an East German spy, drown the occasional girl friend, diddle your underage baby sitter? The ultimate crime then, is hypocrisy? Get out of town with that high school b.s.

No one said that liberals were perfect, simply that when you expect others to follow a code of conduct that you loudly proclaim you value and then your family fails to follow that same set of values, the hypocrisy makes the personal life noteworthy.

Odds are if any of those things happened today, that would be the end of that persons political career. In today's age of social media and 24 hour news channels, things are much different than they were even 10 or 15 years ago, let alone 30 or 40 years ago.
 
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Well at least they're having the baby as opposed to creating more "medical waste".

You feel confident this has always been the case? Because, see, if they're not really all that wedded to the no pre-marital sex stuff, its not a stretch to think they'd be exercising their right to choose also out of the glare of the public eye.

Nice to see Old Pio really putting the "Old" into his posts. JFK has been dead for almost 50 years. There are no Kennedy's holding public office to my knowledge. I think it might be time to move on, and maybe focus on some more recent examples, like, oh I don't know...Newt Gingrich!
 
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You feel confident this has always been the case? Because, see, if they're not really all that wedded to the no pre-marital sex stuff, its not a stretch to think they'd be exercising their right to choose also out of the glare of the public eye.

Nice to see Old Pio really putting the "Old" into his posts. JFK has been dead for almost 50 years. There are no Kennedy's holding public office to my knowledge. I think it might be time to move on, and maybe focus on some more recent examples, like, oh I don't know...Newt Gingrich!

Yeah, you're right since that red headed junkie/drunk and part time demolition derby driver from Rhode Island ("do you know who I am?") left the congress one step ahead of the sheriff. Yet somehow every time a g.d. Kennedy farts, it's "news." 'Course I didn't realize this discussion was time limited, since one of you libtards wants to criticize Sarah Palin for when her brother was concieved.
 
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You feel confident this has always been the case? Because, see, if they're not really all that wedded to the no pre-marital sex stuff, its not a stretch to think they'd be exercising their right to choose also out of the glare of the public eye.

Nice to see Old Pio really putting the "Old" into his posts. JFK has been dead for almost 50 years. There are no Kennedy's holding public office to my knowledge. I think it might be time to move on, and maybe focus on some more recent examples, like, oh I don't know...Newt Gingrich!
Can I raise a John Edwards?
 
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No one said that liberals were perfect, simply that when you expect others to follow a code of conduct that you loudly proclaim you value and then your family fails to follow that same set of values, the hypocrisy makes the personal life noteworthy.

Odds are if any of those things happened today, that would be the end of that persons political career. In today's age of social media and 24 hour news channels, things are much different than they were even 10 or 15 years ago, let alone 30 or 40 years ago.

What is hyocritical about her children not following the values she's tried to teach them? Palin isn't having any babies out of wedlock, is she? Her son has been in combat, should she send him to bed without dinner?
 
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What is hyocritical about her children not following the values she's tried to teach them? Palin isn't having any babies out of wedlock, is she?

Maybe she should spend a little more time teaching her children and a little less time telling the rest of us how to live our lives.

Her son has been in combat, should she send him to bed without dinner?

I didn't know that pre-marital sex was wrong for the rest of us but acceptable if you've been in combat. Must have been in the fine print.
 
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Sarah isn't having any babies out of wedlock NOW, but...

Sarah was pregnant with Track when she got married

But I'm sure she'd been in combat by then, so it's all OK.
 
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I haven't made it my business to memorize the conception timelines for her and every member of her family (that level of obsession is really creepy). I suppose it's not possible for her to have learned the error of her ways between then and now. So thank you for that PDS update. But how is the conception timeline for her siblings applicable to her? SHE's responsible for what her parents did? Does that make every subsequent Kennedy responsible for what that rum-running, Nazi loving, Mafia loving J. P. Kennedy did?
 
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Maybe she should spend a little more time teaching her children and a little less time telling the rest of us how to live our lives.



I didn't know that pre-marital sex was wrong for the rest of us but acceptable if you've been in combat. Must have been in the fine print.

And the winner of the Moses Brewer Middle School debate is: Almington. I've heard some dumb, off point stuff in my life, but those two responses are right up there. You haven't any idea how much time she's spent trying to teach her kids her values. You would, I presume, feel better about it if she said nothing that offended your delicate sensitivities. So much for respecting her right to her opinion. But since in your mind, she's the bete noir of the civilized world, you beg the question and offer advice. As far as her son is concerned I'm betting you wouldn't open your mealy mouthed yapper in his presence. The kid would kick your as*, and you'd richly deserve it. I should think the key issue here is UNPROTECED pre-marital sex. Just as Sarah Palin is not responsible for what her adult children do, neither are they obliged to lead their lives according to her precepts.

I don't remember if you're one of the bozos who blamed Palin for the shootings in Tuscon, but it wouldn't surprise me.
 
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The point is to stop telling others how to live...that is all...and expect to be called out on it if you break your own rules.
 
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The point is to stop telling others how to live...that is all...and expect to be called out on it if you break your own rules.

The point is: she hasn't broken "her own rules," her kids have. And none of you PDS sufferers has yet offered a cogent eplanation of why or how that's her frault. Such mindless, baseless hatred. You all must get the talking points by blast fax every morning. She's not "telling others how to live," she's expressing her opinion. Normally libtards say they place a very high value on that, except of course in certain circumstances: like when someone disagrees with them.
 
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Sarah and Todd eloped August 29.
Track was born April 20.
Human gestation is 9 months.
Do the math.
 
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Sarah and Todd eloped August 29.
Track was born April 20.
Human gestation is 9 months.
Do the math.

You do the math, weirdo. I just wonder why that stuff obsesses you so. Do you keep track of these data only for Sarah Palin, or are you sniffing around everyone's bedroom? Do you keep those data on a laminated wallet card for quick access? Or maybe on a lanyard around your neck? Why? She's not telling you how to live your life, that would obviously be a waste of time, since you've got important gestation research to do. Creepy.
 
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My apologies. I forgot that you aren't used to that freaky high-tech wizardry known as the "Internet" to look up birthdates and marriages. And most people with a basic understanding of biology know that the human gestation period is nine months, but of course you probably think Evolution is just some crackpot theory and that we're all descended from some dude made out of clay.

More to the point, she IS trying to tell me how to my life. She's trying to tell American children how to live their lives by imposing her religion into "abstinence only" miseducation when she herself did not follow the example. Now, she may have learned a lesson and that is why she is on this crusade, but in that case she might want to say "I made a mistake and I hope you won't do the same." But she is pretending that she lives by her own advice when in fact she didn't. That makes her a hypocrite. Just like guys who preach about "family values" as they stand next to their third wife while confessing that they visited prostitutes or campaign against homosexuality and then get busted trying to pick up guys in an airport bathroom.
 
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My apologies. I forgot that you aren't used to that freaky high-tech wizardry known as the "Internet" to look up birthdates and marriages. And most people with a basic understanding of biology know that the human gestation period is nine months, but of course you probably think Evolution is just some crackpot theory and that we're all descended from some dude made out of clay.

More to the point, she IS trying to tell me how to my life. She's trying to tell American children how to live their lives by imposing her religion into "abstinence only" miseducation when she herself did not follow the example. Now, she may have learned a lesson and that is why she is on this crusade, but in that case she might want to say "I made a mistake and I hope you won't do the same." But she is pretending that she lives by her own advice when in fact she didn't. That makes her a hypocrite. Just like guys who preach about "family values" as they stand next to their third wife while confessing that they visited prostitutes or campaign against homosexuality and then get busted trying to pick up guys in an airport bathroom.

Geez, no way I can match your intellect, bub. You use the internet to keep track of these important facts and bolster your weak a*s libtard arguments. Especially looking up that stuff about her siblings and parents. Noooooo. That's not the slightest bit obsessive. More to the point, it still amazes me that presumably intelligent people (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here) are so willing and anxious to go to war against Palin. I'm not a social conservative, and I don't agree with that part of her agenda. But she's merely offering her opinion on these matters. But unlike you and the rest of the libtards, I'm not willing to suspend normal standards of discourse by, for instance, holding her responsible for the shootings in Tucson or getting some yucks referring to her handicapped child as "retarded." If her ideas are as bad as you suggest, they won't have any traction with the American people. Why does the expression of faith by some Christians upset you so?

The trouble with libtards is they think their prejudices are revealed truths. Nothing I've ever said here should give anyone with a room temperature IQ the idea that I don't believe in evolution. But dealing in stereotypes is so much easier than actually, you know, thinking. Just so we're clear, the "crime" in the situations you mentioned is saying one thing and doing another. There's no problem with actually doing it. So Mark Foley is to be condemned because he mouthed pro family platitudes and talked dirty to congressional pages. But Gerry Studds isn't because he didn't mouth pro family platitudes but actually boned an underage male page. Just as Barney Frank is not to be condemned because he never, ever, uttered pro family platitudes but had a gay escort service running out of his home while fixing tickets for his hustler friend. Nope, can't criticize these worthies because they aren't hypocrites.

Let's apply your "logic" to another situation. Before the outbreak of WWII, Hitler made a speech to the Reichstag in which he said if the Jews manage to plunge Europe into a war, it would mean the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe. Thus, since he wasn't being a "hypocrite" about his maniacal anti-Semitism, by your logic the Holocaust isn't as big a deal. Right? I mean, if he had posed as a friend of the Jews while trying to kill them all, that would be really bad. But he never did that. He was pretty clear about where jews stood all along, so that sort of ameliorates his guilt.

The relevant quote comes about :30 in:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-OrWVMPwow

Is it possible, even theoretically, that there are greater crimes than hypocricy?
 
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Sarah and Todd eloped August 29.
Track was born April 20.
Human gestation is 9 months.
Do the math.
Premature births do happen. My grandson was 1.5 months early.

As for the other part of your argument, does attending AA meetings disqualify one from speaking out against drunk driving??
 
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Premature births do happen. My grandson was 1.5 months early.

As for the other part of your argument, does attending AA meetings disqualify one from speaking out against drunk driving??

Depends. Are you talking about a liberal or a conservative drunk? As I just told Peeless, I'm not a social, but the anger and rage against both Palin and Bachmann is fairly unprecedented in my life (except maybe for the way Goldwater was treated). Some of these libtards have even begun speculating and snarking about Bachmann's husband, that he's deeply closeted, etc. Andrew Sullivan (who's a Palin "birther" on the subject of Trig) and Garafolo, among others are spreading this manure. Yet those two would be among the first taking to the barricades (and rightly so) if anyone cast similar aspersions at the spouse of a prominent Democrat. Is this really where we want to be in this country? I surely hope not.
 
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As for the other part of your argument, does attending AA meetings disqualify one from speaking out against drunk driving??

I'm not following the analogy here. One of the first things someone does when they go to AA is take responsibility for their actions. "Hi, I'm (insert name) and I'm an alcoholic." So they're coming from a very different place than Palin, who as far as I know (and I welcome anyone who can correct this) has never acknowledged that she didn't follow her own advice about abstinence.

Another flaw in the analogy is that drunk driving is universally accepted as a bad thing for society. On the other hand, study after study tells us that abstinence-only "education" does not work and is a negative for society. In essence, Palin is telling people to avoid drunk driving by not drinking, ignoring the alternatives like taking a cab or using a designated driver.
 
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You would, I presume, feel better about it if she said nothing that offended your delicate sensitivities. So much for respecting her right to her opinion.

I would feel better if she shut her farking trap and minded her own freaking business - if she doesn't want David Letterman insulting her pregnant teenage daughter or the rest of us mocking her on her own family's values, then maybe she shouldn't be telling the rest of us when and with whom we can have sex.

Social conservatives are nothing more than busybodies writ large. So fark em.
 
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The point is to stop telling others how to live...that is all...and expect to be called out on it if you break your own rules.

Winner. Winner.

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The issue is hypocrisy, plain and simple. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, it's not that revolutionary a concept.
 
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