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2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!

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Kepler said:
Oh, I assume he's closeted, too -- there's nowhere else that sort of virulent hatred can come from -- but no need to be offensive about it. ;)
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I think you're confusing limpwrist for an accusation of being gay. It's not. Although I suppose it wouldn't shock me if he was.

Limpwrist, at least the way I've always understood it, means someone who's weak or in other words, "has a weak handshake".
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I think you're confusing limpwrist for an accusation of being gay. It's not. Although I suppose it wouldn't shock me if he was.

Limpwrist, at least the way I've always understood it, means someone who's weak or in other words, "has a weak handshake".
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That was definitely not how we meant it at recess in 1975.

Edit: "a ginger"? Man, times have changed.
 
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Kepler said:
Yeah, I'd stay away from it. You'd likely get nailed from both sides' That's Not Funny types
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eh, who cares? If they can't appreciate a fine joke or even understand the crux of South Park's point, I wouldn't even take the time to listen.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
You can't tell me you didn't laugh your azz off at most of these clowns. Most of the things Bachmann said were written for her days before this debate and she doesn't have the charisma to cover this up. Mitt Romney is doing his best impression of a Republican John Kerry. Santorum seems nice enough but doesn't seem to have the charisma and chutzpah it takes to be President. He doesn't have any ideas, just talking points. Rick Perry probably thanks God every night that someone as galactically stupid as Michelle Bachmann is in the race so he seems smart by comparison. Ron Paul just seems like that crazy old uncle or grandpa that says a lot of things. Some smart. Some insane. Herman Cain seems to be the most on the ball as he's actually proposing something of substance rather than "I'm going to create jobs. I'm going to cut spending. I'm going to make this happen. I'm going to make that happen." *sigh*

Edit: I FORGOT NEWT!!!! Oh well, so did the rest of America...
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I agree. And I also believe people in all 57 states agree as well. President Expiration Date made a whole, long, painful list of promises of what he would do while in office, most of which have been abandoned or ignored (even by people whose first language is Austrian or whose wives are named Michael).

Seriously, these "debates" are just blood sport for people too civilized to attend cock fights. Let's beat up on the guy who's "in the lead" this week. Let's assert ourselves so we can regain some points in the poll. And let's remember the overwhelming number of Americans will not watch these events but will rely instead on talking heads' analysis of who "won."

In my case, it's not necessary to watch republican "debates" because the ladies libtard chorale WILL watch and will amuse themselves with various observations. Mostly about how superior they are and how dumb the GOP candidates are (mostly the former). So I can get a pretty good idea of how things went, mercifully, without watching.
 
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Kepler said:
In unrelated news, Wonkette did a very nice summary of the pacified wage slave movement.
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Reading the commentary between the photos, it's really interesting how much bile and hatred can be generated toward work and individual independence. What do people have to gain from condemning those who are willing to work? Why is a free rider praised, while a worker is to be spit on under the assumption that they must be a religious nut?
It's really amazing to me how quickly basic values can change. They should think about how much worse things will get if everyone goes along with the rejection of work/production. Everyone can't be a free rider, there would be no one to support them.
 
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geezer said:
What do people have to gain from condemning those who are willing to work? Why is a free rider praised, while a worker is to be spit on under the assumption that they must be a religious nut?
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No one's disparaging the workers. But it is telling that these people are one accident or major illness away from bankruptcy, and that's somehow not a bad thing to them. They're taking it as almost a point of pride that they don't have health insurance, which while bootstrappy is absolutely asinine. Hell, my wife and I actually got married for the benefits (we were already engaged, I had a job with insurance, she didn't. We got hitched over our lunch break at the court house). Turns out it was the right call, as she had to go to the hospital about 4 months later.

If these people are happy working 80 hours a week at 2 jobs without any benefits, more power to them, I guess. But considering this is the richest country in the world, it shouldn't have to be that way.

I especially like the guy who's proud he hasn't taken 4 consecutive days off in 4 years. Because never taking a vacation is an absolutely awesome way to go through life. In fact, I really wish my wife and I hadn't spent a week in Jamaica last winter for our Honeymoon. Lying on the beach in 83 degree weather for seven days straight absolutely sucked compared to staying in Iowa with a foot of snow on the ground.
 
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geezer said:
Reading the commentary between the photos, it's really interesting how much bile and hatred can be generated toward work and individual independence. What do people have to gain from condemning those who are willing to work? Why is a free rider praised, while a worker is to be spit on under the assumption that they must be a religious nut?
It's really amazing to me how quickly basic values can change. They should think about how much worse things will get if everyone goes along with the rejection of work/production. Everyone can't be a free rider, there would be no one to support them.
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They're being a tad hypocritical, kinda like someone who went to Yale complaining about Ivy League elites...
 
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The key stratagem employed by Wall Street and the GOP (and in fact the Dems) is to confuse attacks on them with attacks on working people. This ties them in knots when the attacks are made by working people. Hence the rush to calling it "class warfare." The burglar is offended by street lighting.

The whole idea of the protests is to save capitalism by reining in the financial sector that has become so dominant (in part by co-opting government) that it threatens capitalism. It's the same as trust busting (and the over-the-top objections are the same, too).

Conservatives of conscience ought to be out there with OWS. Not only do the multinationals drive out all competition and close down opportunities for the majority to become small scale capitalists, but they do it by bribing lawmakers and securing corporate welfare, both of which conservatives (in theory) oppose.
 
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Kepler said:
The key stratagem employed by Wall Street and the GOP is to confuse attacks in them with attacks on working people. This ties them in knots when the attacks are made by working people. Hence the rush to calling it "class warfare." The burglar objects to street lighting.

The whole idea is to save capitalism by reining in the financial sector that has become so dominant (in part by co-opting government) that it threatens capitalism. It's the same as trust busting (and the over-the-top objections are the same, too).
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Cantor's speech on Friday should be very illuminating to how the GOP is going to try and continue to make this work. So far they've managed pretty well but the poll numbers have to worrisome.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Cantor's speech on Friday should be very illuminating to how the GOP is going to try and continue to make this work. So far they've managed pretty well but the poll numbers have to worrisome.
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Rush came down on him like a ton of bricks for even deigning to address the issue. I would expect either the boilerplate GOP line ("protesting Goldman Sachs equals being a hippie free-rider nogoodnik") or a full-scale contrition walking back the discussion ("I refuse to talk about this -- in a crisis we must all come together and no that does not mean we should repeal the tax cuts for the wealthy! God man, what are you thinkin?!").

If Cantor is looking ahead to a prez run someday he would be wise to really pump up the volume of a defense of unfettered free market capitalism, because it sets him up perfectly to blame a GOP failure in 2012 on the compromises that any candidate in a general election will have to make. It's easy to be a purist when there's nothing on the line: that's how the righty chattering classes got rich.
 
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Kepler said:
Rush came down on him like a ton of bricks for even deigning to address the issue. I would expect either the boilerplate GOP line ("protesting Goldman Sachs equals being a hippie free-rider nogoodnik") or a full-scale contrition walking back the discussion ("I refuse to talk about this -- in a crisis we must all come together").

If Cantor is looking ahead to a prez run someday he would be wise to really pump up the volume of a defense of unfettered free market capitalism, because it sets him up perfectly to blame a GOP failure in 2012 on the compromises that any candidate in a general election will have to make. It's easy to be a purist when there's nothing on the line: that's how the righty chattering classes got rich.
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Rush attacking him makes his speech on Friday even more interesting. I expect him to go purist, cause I'm betting he doesn't have the balls to take on Rush.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Rush attacking him makes his speech on Friday even more interesting. I expect him to go purist, cause I'm betting he doesn't have the balls to take on Rush.
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Someday there's going to be a Republican Sister Souljah Moment, where some rising candidate tells the hate brigade the gig's up. Cantor does not in any way seem like he has the intestinal fortitude for that, which is why I expect him to take the easy route. But the GOP has been following the pre-Clinton Dems' trajectory of being publicly identified with its most unpleasant subgroup, and eventually somebody ambitious and politically adventuresome is going to play that card.

Talk radio is more and more Al Sharpton every day: completely insulated and self-confident, while the rest of the world rolls its eyes. It's still demographically relevant, but how much longer can that really last? Like replacement smokers, the next generation is out there, but in much smaller numbers, and with much less brand-loyalty.
 
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Kepler said:
("I refuse to talk about this -- in a crisis we must all come together and no that does not mean we should repeal the tax cuts for the <del>wealthy</del> job creators! God man, what are you thinkin?!").
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